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How do you fight against the ignorance of the Deplorables (Original Post) Cryptoad Jan 2018 OP
Give them the Fry squint gratuitous Jan 2018 #1
Don't waste your time. Think of them as the Disposables. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #2
Given their efforts to elect people who are against their interests, they're essentially self-deleting. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #24
Thank Darwin for that. There will never be a majority cohort of Despicable Disposables. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #38
that is the question of our times, isn't it? hlthe2b Jan 2018 #3
Ask them questions, let them talk maxsolomon Jan 2018 #4
I throw their vitriol right back at em. n/t Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #5
If they had the ability to recognize reality, they wouldn't be deplorables in the first place! 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2018 #6
People who defend the shithole President are no different than flat earthers and Holocaust deniers. LanternWaste Jan 2018 #7
Numbers Beausoleil Jan 2018 #8
Can't be bothered..not worth wasting my energy.. HipChick Jan 2018 #9
Mine either.. Freedomofspeech Jan 2018 #32
My neighbor is an avid Trumpster.. HipChick Jan 2018 #34
Outnumber them. yallerdawg Jan 2018 #10
Can't reach them, they've put their fingers in their ears and are blathering nya-nya. haele Jan 2018 #11
They wear ignorance like a badge of honor! Floyd R. Turbo Jan 2018 #12
Sadly, it's not just the Deplorables who have that extremist non-thinking behavior... NurseJackie Jan 2018 #13
Once we remove tRump Abouttime Jan 2018 #14
We have to fight the voter suppression and gerrymandering that give them power. hunter Jan 2018 #15
Old people don't change, but they do die. Educate their children. L. Coyote Jan 2018 #16
Across the Dumbfuckistan,,,,,,, Cryptoad Jan 2018 #23
I can't Aristus Jan 2018 #17
You can't. They are proud of their ignorance. Arkansas Granny Jan 2018 #18
Good Germans moondust Jan 2018 #19
I Watched This These Folks Are Beyond Stupid SeaDoo77 Jan 2018 #37
these are the ones you can say to them bluestarone Jan 2018 #20
You don't. You move on. LuvLoogie Jan 2018 #21
You can't argue with stupid. Why would you when they are an absolute max of 35% ? Concentrate on OnDoutside Jan 2018 #22
You can't fix stupid. Or the brainwashed. nt TeamPooka Jan 2018 #25
Ostracize and Isolate...if they bring politics to their businesses, boycott them. pecosbob Jan 2018 #26
Do you know haw hard it is to find,,, Cryptoad Jan 2018 #29
Out vote them in numbers that will choke them into humiliated silence so they Guilded Lilly Jan 2018 #27
Look back through history at how other deplorable people have been swayed. femmedem Jan 2018 #28
Even if their gop grifters took everything from them, it would still be Obama's fault. lindysalsagal Jan 2018 #30
I listened to a CNN piece with Martin Savidge with 5 Trump voters - have to see it Justice Jan 2018 #31
Teach your children well. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2018 #33
Sometimes you can hit them in the pocket book GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #35
Concentrate on our own and "convince-ables" SoCalDem Jan 2018 #36
We cannot convert them, we must just defeat them. NightWatcher Jan 2018 #39

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Give them the Fry squint
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 04:39 PM
Jan 2018

And intone, very deliberately, "You . . . don't know what you're talking about, do you?"

The conversation ends at that point.

TheBlackAdder

(28,183 posts)
24. Given their efforts to elect people who are against their interests, they're essentially self-deleting.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 06:26 PM
Jan 2018

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
4. Ask them questions, let them talk
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 04:44 PM
Jan 2018

ask another question, etc. until the light bulb goes off, or they melt down.

It's incredibly boring when it's not infuriating, but I know of no other way except to make them feel like they're being heard, not yelled at.

And don't expect it to work.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
7. People who defend the shithole President are no different than flat earthers and Holocaust deniers.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:09 PM
Jan 2018

People who defend the shithole President are no different than flat earthers and Holocaust deniers.

At the end of the day they are imprisoned by their biases, by their prejudices and by the weight of their own ineffectual anger and impotent rage, and no amount of rational discussion can free them from it. It's something they must do on their own.

It's one (of many) reason I believe the milquetoast requests to reach out to them after the election were as dull-witted as they were meaningless.

Beausoleil

(2,843 posts)
8. Numbers
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:11 PM
Jan 2018

You are never going to change them, get them to suddenly understand logic, appeal to their sense of decency and patriotism. This is a fight against a cult and you will not be able to deprogram 1/3 of the population.

The only answer is to completely overwhelm them at the ballot box repeatedly and eventually they will lose their enthusiasm and scurry back into the woodworks.

Freedomofspeech

(4,223 posts)
32. Mine either..
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 06:52 PM
Jan 2018

I quit speaking to any acquaintance that I know supported that piece of crap. I have no regrets.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
34. My neighbor is an avid Trumpster..
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 07:12 PM
Jan 2018

Retired, watches Faux News 24/7....the stuff she comes up with, just

haele

(12,646 posts)
11. Can't reach them, they've put their fingers in their ears and are blathering nya-nya.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:15 PM
Jan 2018

I just look at them with pity and say "You must feel lucky you've been able to make your world so very small, don't you?" and try to remove myself from them.
No use arguing with them, and they will refuse to accept anything you say as reality.

Sometimes, I might add "and your god" after "your world", if they shove their faux Xtianity in people's faces.

Haele

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
13. Sadly, it's not just the Deplorables who have that extremist non-thinking behavior...
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:15 PM
Jan 2018

... and that's sad. It makes things more challenging and difficult than it needs to be.

At some point, it becomes a waste of time and a counterproductive distraction to try and deal with them. If they're NEVER going to change, then why bother? Best to just marginalize them as best we can and move on to motivate enough other reasonable and rational people that will overwhelm them at the voting booth.

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
14. Once we remove tRump
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:19 PM
Jan 2018

Many of the deplorables will ‘self-incarcerate’ by rebelling against the legitimate government or commit ‘suicide by cop’ fighting against the National Guard that quickly crushes their hissy fit of a reaction to the incarceration of the trump cabal and repuke leadership.
Screw these assholes they are truly deplorable. I hope those that aren’t shot down on the street rot in prisons.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
15. We have to fight the voter suppression and gerrymandering that give them power.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:21 PM
Jan 2018

The Electoral College is another problem, but tougher to solve.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
23. Across the Dumbfuckistan,,,,,,,
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 06:26 PM
Jan 2018

nowadays if a teacher tries to teach logic, reason, and/or critical thinking they are run out of town on a rail! They have been dismantling our education system since Reagun took office

Arkansas Granny

(31,514 posts)
18. You can't. They are proud of their ignorance.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:25 PM
Jan 2018

They get angry when you use fact, logic and reason to disprove their lies and deception.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
19. Good Germans
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:27 PM
Jan 2018

CNN visited some Trump supporters in Youngstown, OH, who claim to be Democrats. Probably should have asked for specifics when they voiced their generally positive impressions.

&feature=youtu.be

bluestarone

(16,906 posts)
20. these are the ones you can say to them
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 05:31 PM
Jan 2018

up is up down is down right is right left is left and they would DISAGREE ON EVERY ONE So fuckin forget them

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
22. You can't argue with stupid. Why would you when they are an absolute max of 35% ? Concentrate on
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 06:22 PM
Jan 2018

the majority 65% and GOTV.

pecosbob

(7,536 posts)
26. Ostracize and Isolate...if they bring politics to their businesses, boycott them.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 06:30 PM
Jan 2018

I successfully convinced my dentist to change the channel in her waiting room that played Fox Noise all day. Now they play Disney videos for the kids. Simply threatened to find another dentist. Let them know every time they puy their tin foil hats on in public they're going to lose money, lose their jobs, lose their 'friends'.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
27. Out vote them in numbers that will choke them into humiliated silence so they
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 06:32 PM
Jan 2018

can slither back under the rocks from whence they came.

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
28. Look back through history at how other deplorable people have been swayed.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 06:37 PM
Jan 2018

If they are not too far gone, there is a lot to be said for nonviolent resistance. I remember being a little girl and watching the civil rights struggles on the television. The dignity and courage with which people faced beatings, dogs and hoses swayed many white people. Maybe it didn't sway the most deplorable, but it opened the hearts of many others who might otherwise not have chosen a side.

Edited to add: you might want to watch PBS's movie based on a book James Baldwin never finished: I Am Not Your Negro.

lindysalsagal

(20,666 posts)
30. Even if their gop grifters took everything from them, it would still be Obama's fault.
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 06:44 PM
Jan 2018

So, you can't. Laugh in their faces. Walk away. Organize.

Justice

(7,185 posts)
31. I listened to a CNN piece with Martin Savidge with 5 Trump voters - have to see it
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 06:45 PM
Jan 2018

This is the CNN piece -
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/01/16/cnn_focus_group_what_trump_supporters_think_one_year_later.html

Youngstown, Ohio

Two white males and black male, a black and a white woman.

Pastor to student to machine worker to stay at home grandmother.

Listen to it and tell me, what do you think you can do to "fight" against them.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
35. Sometimes you can hit them in the pocket book
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 07:17 PM
Jan 2018

Before hurricane Irma needed some tree work done. Called a guy out for an estimate. Probably would have hired him. Till I saw the Trump/Pence sticker on his company truck.

I politely told him I do not care who he voted for and will happily hire a republican. But since he chose to politicize his business I will too and cannot hire him. He was surprised but did not become rude. Shook his head and he left.

Found my courage, pulled out the chain saw and dropped the tree myself.

Change his mind...of course not. But I certainly made him realize that not all white guys in his economic class agree with him.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
36. Concentrate on our own and "convince-ables"
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 07:17 PM
Jan 2018

the deplorables will soon die off from their stupidity and hatred..

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
39. We cannot convert them, we must just defeat them.
Thu Jan 18, 2018, 10:46 AM
Jan 2018

We must get people with a connected brain stem to get out to vote and leave the nut jobs in their basements.

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