the 'president' said, bring me a bill and i'll sign it....he lied. THIS is the cause of the shutdown

[spanone]

Durbin and Graham took him a bill, he didn't sign it.

He lied....imagine that?

[NightWatcher]

1. Governing is hard. Maybe shouldn't have picked a failed reality show hack.

[erronis]

20. You're right. But "who" picked this total loser?

Was it the uninformed repuglican voters who pled allegiance to their party above everything else (country, humanity, decency, rationality, etc.)?

Or was it some special interest groups that could use the "nudge" factor to highly influence their pick (US plutocrats, media conglomerates, vested interests - fossilized fuel companies)?

Or was it active meddling in the process itself? I don't think it matters if they are US or foreign - they are subverting the democratic process.

Is it a grand plan to periodically choose a party/person(s) that are so devastating that it's like a lower-colonic? The shit comes out, spews, pollutes, kills millions; but eventually everything is like Eden again.

[LAS14]

2. I've been waiting for the Dems to point this out every time they're interviewed.

I haven't heard it yet. Has anyone heard them point this out?

[spanone]

3. well, Lindsey Graham just pretty much said that very thing

[spanone]

11. Chris Coons is talking about this RIGHT NOW on msnbc

[malaise]

4. What number lie was that one?

[spanone]

7. surely there's a lying meter somewhere on this page????

http://www.usdebtclock.org

[Saviolo]

17. Daniel Dale has a running tally in the Toronto Star

You can find that here:
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/analysis/2017/11/28/daniel-dales-donald-trump-fact-check-updates.html

And the NYT is doing a slightly different sort of count:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html

And this amazing graph:

[spanone]

18. THANKS!!!!

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. Start with a fresh count every day.

That way the calculator doesn't overheat.

[malaise]

9. LOL

[n2doc]

12. Gotta be over 2000 by now

[malaise]

13. ROFL

Them lies done 'Bolt'.

[TheCowsCameHome]

5. The whole world saw that on live TV.

To him, lying is as natural as eating Big Macs and Fillatio Fish sandwiches.

[spanone]

15. Sam Stein on m$nbc just reiterated that.

[SWBTATTReg]

6. and Congress guys are starting to complain that tRUMP is changing the goalposts ...

Kind of hard to come up w/ a bill during 'regular' bouts between democrats and/or indep and/or repubs let alone when tRUMP keeps changing goalposts...no wonder no one in the business world wants to work or contract w/ tRUMP since he is changing goals/etc. all of the time if he can get away w/ it. Asshat...

[TubbersUK]

10. More of the same today

The WH is still not negotiating in good faith:

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[keithbvadu2]

19. Leadership?

[BumRushDaShow]

14. Just-released WaPO-ABC poll finds majority blames Republicans and Drumpf for a shutdown

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/more-blame-republicans-than-democrats-for-potential-government-shutdown-post-abc-poll-finds/2018/01/19/c4fce2f6-fd32-11e7-ad8c-ecbb62019393_story.html

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141965756

[LAS14]

16. Kicking cuz I'd like to hear more reports of Dems who are using this as their interview line. nt

[Ilsa]

21. That pissant in the WH likes fighting, likes causing chaos, likes being

the center of attention, even if it hurts groups he purports to support, like the military. He doesn't give a flying frack what is in the damn bill. He has no values or core philosophy for governing. He just wants to be the one with the power of the pen.

[BobTheSubgenius]

22. Everyone forgot about the hidden subtext.

"Bring me a bill and I'll sign it..(if it's something I can totally agree with in a capricious moment, and can take credit for.)"

[rockfordfile]

23. Trump lied. Are you shocked? Trump is a traitor and racist pos.