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LuckyCharms

(17,402 posts)
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:09 AM Jan 2018

So, I was in line at at grocery store, and this Trump supporter...

No, not really. But I was thinking this morning of something that really did happen...

This happened at the time when...and I'm going to embarrass myself here because I should know this...there was some kind of televised event where the Catholic cardinals were there, and Trump and Hillary were there and they both spoke? Some kind of light-hearted dinner in NYC? Maria Bartiromo was right behind the people speaking? Trump spoke and he embarrassed himself and that one cardinal made a shocked face? I can't remember exactly what that event was, but I'm sure you know what I mean. Well, my story happened one day after this event, and they were showing clips of it on the news.

Alright...I went to the dealer to get my car serviced. Beautiful waiting room. Plush leather chairs, computers, vending machines, big screen TV. The waiting room was crowded when I got there, but it slowly thinned to the point where I was the only one in there. I'm sitting in this beautiful chair in front of the TV, and I'm dosing off.

They were showing a clip of Trump speaking at this event, and he made some comment about Hillary not liking the church or something similar. At that exact moment, I see some guy walk into the room. He hears this comment by trump and starts SCREAMING....YAHHHHHH YAHHHHHH THAT'S RIGHT.

I just thought "oh shit" and continued looking straight ahead, but I could see he was waiting for my response because he was looking at me...he took a seat about 4 chairs from me.

Then they showed a clip of Chuck Schumer, at a different location, talking to a reporter. I can't remember if it was related to the Catholic event or not, but here we are watching this thing and the guys says..."they should get fucking rid of him too".

So I say "What"?

Get rid of him.

Get rid of who?

Schumer.

Why?

He's a fucking liberal.

So here I am trying to avoid a confrontation, but my temper got the best of me.

Hey, I got a better idea. Why don't you go fuck yourself?

Oh, you a liberal too?

I still sat there, looking straight ahead, and started screaming to match this guy's voice.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID? WHY WOULD YOU WALK INTO A ROOM AND ENGAGE A COMPLETE STRANGER ABOUT YOUR POLITICS? YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW I FEEL ABOUT POLITICS! YOU'RE A FUCKING DUMB ASS! SHUT UP! LEAVE ME ALONE! DON'T TALK TO ME!

So now my adrenaline is pumping and I'm shaking because he pissed me off so bad.

He shut up, I shut up, and we sat there in silence until he was called before me and he walked out to pay his bill.

I guess the reason I am recalling this...I can't imagine a liberal walking into a room with a stranger in it and the FIRST thing they say is something about their political beliefs.

Carry on...I'll roll with the "cool story bro" comments. But this really did happen. Also...I have an anger control issue, but I'm working on that and I've been better.

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So, I was in line at at grocery store, and this Trump supporter... (Original Post) LuckyCharms Jan 2018 OP
Treat them like trash on the sidewalk. Walk around it dalton99a Jan 2018 #1
Hell, I pick up trash tazkcmo Jan 2018 #4
They are full of shit. I thought they would make decent compost and that is the only way MLAA Jan 2018 #32
Alfred E. Smith Memorial dinner. I watched it on YouTube. yardwork Jan 2018 #2
That's it. Thank you. n/t LuckyCharms Jan 2018 #3
Yes. It's tradition to make fun of oneself at it. But Trump didn't. He made fun of OTHERS, natch. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #14
It demeaned Melania. That's why he was willing to tell it. yardwork Jan 2018 #15
Well, no. Everyone knows she didn't write the speech. It was the speechwriter. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #17
AS I recall, the speechwriter said Melania gave her the quote and said to use it. dawg day Jan 2018 #51
It wasn't a simple quote. It was the whole damn speech...and we all know Melania Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #59
A rare instance of a joke by a republican. pangaia Jan 2018 #25
Typically the republicans are the joke. 😬 MLAA Jan 2018 #33
You sound just like my husband. Butterflylady Jan 2018 #5
good for you! They do this ALL THE TIME!!! They are so ignorant.. samnsara Jan 2018 #6
I didn't know anything about the MOOSE. pangaia Jan 2018 #31
Heres one of my experiences... MLAA Jan 2018 #34
It's hard to know what to do. It's so unpleasant and stressful. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #60
They aren't worth your aggravation Ohiogal Jan 2018 #7
Try Sears next time you need your car serviced CountAllVotes Jan 2018 #8
Let me know next time. Ill have my boys take care of him! Lucky Luciano Jan 2018 #9
It happens all the time, and I mean ALL the time down here in Bama... Ferrets are Cool Jan 2018 #10
They've always been assholes and always will be... mreilly Jan 2018 #11
That reminds me of strangers PatSeg Jan 2018 #12
I'm white, and I was at this party once... LuckyCharms Jan 2018 #13
"Doesn't he know he's black?" PatSeg Jan 2018 #26
Oh yeah! In my experience... LuckyCharms Jan 2018 #37
I don't know either PatSeg Jan 2018 #56
'Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.' cutroot Jan 2018 #16
I never let that stop me. LuckyCharms Jan 2018 #18
If you didn't grab him by the face, smash his head into the wall, pants him, Aristus Jan 2018 #19
Thanks for that. LuckyCharms Jan 2018 #20
Lol! lunatica Jan 2018 #21
Oh good! Aristus Jan 2018 #22
OMG this is sooooo true!!! It drives me crazy!! rainin Jan 2018 #23
Another thing is when they degrade people on LuckyCharms Jan 2018 #39
Its interesting - I just explained the budget and how little we pay to keep people fed bettyellen Jan 2018 #42
They live in their psychotic little TRUMPRAVDA, er, Fox-PAC/Hannity/Rush bubble & catbyte Jan 2018 #24
that's when my LittleGirl Jan 2018 #40
They listen to RW radio all the time. Mariana Jan 2018 #27
insightfull - yes Locrian Jan 2018 #38
You are exactly right. 3catwoman3 Jan 2018 #28
Oh God, that maternity hotel thing... LuckyCharms Jan 2018 #44
One of my soon-to-be 96 year old... 3catwoman3 Jan 2018 #54
The Unavoidable Prue Jan 2018 #29
Great story. Actually, Mira Jan 2018 #30
Just look at the TV and shake your head... LuckyCharms Jan 2018 #45
Thanks Mira Jan 2018 #58
I have to admit the TrumpAsses do it all the time here in Marble Falls and if I am anywhere... marble falls Jan 2018 #35
Summer of 2016 LittleGirl Jan 2018 #36
Well, I'll give you a little support. LuckyCharms Jan 2018 #41
Thank you LittleGirl Jan 2018 #43
Thank you for understanding. LuckyCharms Jan 2018 #46
Indeed LittleGirl Jan 2018 #48
Well, as all the polls show, this country is made up of about 30% assholes. Stonepounder Jan 2018 #47
Immediately after Benghazi Runningdawg Jan 2018 #49
If no one challenges them, they think the world agrees with them mainer Jan 2018 #50
My father's family wasn't well to do by any means... NoMoreRepugs Jan 2018 #52
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2018 #53
They honestly think almost everyone agrees with them. Especially the ones who's family brewens Jan 2018 #55
I have noticed this phenomena as well TxDemChem Jan 2018 #57

tazkcmo

(7,298 posts)
4. Hell, I pick up trash
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:28 AM
Jan 2018

I even recycle it. I would do neither with a trump supporter. They don't even make good compost.

MLAA

(17,230 posts)
32. They are full of shit. I thought they would make decent compost and that is the only way
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:55 PM
Jan 2018

they would ever contribute to society. 😬

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. Yes. It's tradition to make fun of oneself at it. But Trump didn't. He made fun of OTHERS, natch.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:35 AM
Jan 2018

I swear, he has a mental problem. Some serious mental issues.

He did make one good joke...about Melania's speechwriter. Remember that speech where she was excoriated by the public because her speech was verbatim Michelle Obama's speech? Trump's joke went something like this:

The media is so unfair to me and Melania and favored the Obamas. When Michelle Obama gave a speech at the National Convention, everyone was so gaga over it, how wonderful it was. But when Melania gave the exact, same speech...she was criticized! (laughter)

It was a pretty funny joke, I must admit. A rare instance of a joke by Trump that doesn't demean someone.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. Well, no. Everyone knows she didn't write the speech. It was the speechwriter.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:44 AM
Jan 2018

No one ever blamed Melania for the plagiarism. They knew she didn't follow politics to even see Obama's prior speech, and she didn't write the one she said.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
51. AS I recall, the speechwriter said Melania gave her the quote and said to use it.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:12 PM
Jan 2018

Trump is just mean. He likes to be mean. He's like that kid in 7th grade who makes fun of a kid's pimples.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
59. It wasn't a simple quote. It was the whole damn speech...and we all know Melania
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 04:06 PM
Jan 2018

didn't know about Michelle Obama's speech. No one in the whole damn family even votes. Melania is all about being the wife of a billionaire, clothes, makeup, her son, her houses...she didn't watch the Dem National Convention or any Michelle Obama speech. She has a speech writer, who wrote that speech (supposedly) for her...and took it word for word from Michelle Obama's speech.

Even if it were true that someone gave that to the speechwriter, that is who is responsible...a speechwriter is supposed to WRITE speeches, and make sure he isn't stealing someone else's speech. That was really stupid. Like everyone else on the WH staff.

Butterflylady

(3,537 posts)
5. You sound just like my husband.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:30 AM
Jan 2018

He gets so upset with people like mentioned above. He's not confrontational person, but I can see him turning beet red in certain situations. I keep telling him not to waste his breath because they are beyond reasoning with.

samnsara

(17,599 posts)
6. good for you! They do this ALL THE TIME!!! They are so ignorant..
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:30 AM
Jan 2018

...and they have no boundaries. My t party sis walks into my house after O was elected. I had a calendar of 'FIRSTS' on my wall. The photo this month was Nancy P as the first woman SOTH. Sis walks to it and loudly proclaims "SHES GOING TO RUIN YOUR PRESIDENT"..i pointed out to sis that the calendar just celebrates FIRSTS..nothing more. She offered no explanation to back up her Granny Clampett rant.

New Bartender at our Moose Lodge pouring me a drink...sees Obama on the tv and starts going off on how hes born in wherever, birth cert ranting blah blah. Guy at bar who just got his drink, got up and left. We just sat there staring at her..thinking we could engage her in some form of enlightened convo. Nothing doing. We left and reported her to the Moose Lodge saying we wont go back til shes gone. She was gone quickly!

Don't put up with rants in public places... complain to establishment. You probably have more $$ to spend there than the ignorant trumpers.

And my car gets keyed cuz I had Obama bumper stickers on it! what a bunch of snowflakes.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
31. I didn't know anything about the MOOSE.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:50 PM
Jan 2018

For some reason I had in my head it was some, mostly 'conservative,' right wing group along with those other groups posted on those signs as one drives along a US HWY and is about to enter the next "Historic (insert Town here)..." :&gt )

For example my dentist, who is REALLY good BTW, belongs to the Elks and he is as conservative, "liberal disliking" as one can imagine.

So it is interesting to read that someone here is a member.
Your post prompted me to do a little "WIKIING" so I learned something..

About how both groups 'help folks.'

Actually, it looks like the Moose and the Elks, etc DID in fact start out as white men only groups ( and in the case of the Moose) white men who could speak English. (I liked that one) But change came...

Anyway, nice to see that things change.
And I learned something, as I always do here..

Confession-- I was a Cub Scout and Boy Scout.


Be careful at the bar....









MLAA

(17,230 posts)
34. Heres one of my experiences...
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:05 PM
Jan 2018

I hate going to Costco and any other big box store. No choice the day before Thanksgiving had to get a big, beautiful apple pie (they are vegan and delicious). I was just backing out of my parking space, still high on the sense of accomplishment that I had survived the maddening crowd and scored the pie without injury to myself, anyone else and most importantly the pie. Where was I? Oh yes, backing out when some guy (middle aged white dude looking a little scruffy) started yelling and waving to get my attention while pointing to my Hillary bumper sticker. I thought I am not putting up with this today. All 4 foot 11 of me prepared for battle. I rolled down my window and he said *I like your sticker and gave me a thumbs up*. 🙂

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
60. It's hard to know what to do. It's so unpleasant and stressful.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 07:08 PM
Jan 2018

Do you say something and get embroiled in a no-win shouting match with an ignoramous? He's not there to discuss anything or speak facts. That also pulls an otherwise intelligent person (the Dem) down to a low level. But if you say nothing, that lets the ignoramous shouter get away with spouting falsehoods, and silence is tacit agreement, isn't it?

Ohiogal

(31,876 posts)
7. They aren't worth your aggravation
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:34 AM
Jan 2018

And I know in some circumstances, that's easy for me to say. Boy this idiot sounded like a real nutter. I don't know what I would have done if I'd been in your shoes.

The thing with them, is, they think everyone thinks the same way as they do. And they have no concept of "everyone is entitled to their own opinion" or being civil to anyone who disagrees. They are just whacked out bat shit crazy.

I wish they'd stop putting TVs in public places like this. Or, at the very least, just show TV Land reruns instead of cable news.

CountAllVotes

(20,863 posts)
8. Try Sears next time you need your car serviced
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:37 AM
Jan 2018

Far better & much cheaper option and no awholes around. Who the hell needs such sh*t is right!



Ferrets are Cool

(21,101 posts)
10. It happens all the time, and I mean ALL the time down here in Bama...
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:53 AM
Jan 2018

they are so emboldened that it's scary.

 

mreilly

(2,120 posts)
11. They've always been assholes and always will be...
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:12 AM
Jan 2018

.... over 20 years ago I moved to North Carolina from Boston and had a friend for a roommate.

I had a bulletin board in my room with some pro-Democratic bumper stickets on it. At the time Ted Kennedy was our Senator from Massachusetts so one of the bumper stickers was a "re-elect Ted Kennedy" one.

My friend had a cop buddy over; a typical right-wing piece of shit and evidently gave him a tour of the house including my room.

I walked in the door from work and his buddy immediately began berating me for my political views, ranting and raving about Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton (of course) you name it.

I simply said: "Who the fuck are you and what the fuck are you doing in my house? Leave if you're going to act like that."

My friend soon found out what a complete piece of shit his buddy was; said buddy invited him over for dinner then provided no food and denied having made any such invitation.

Asshole is as asshole does, I've found...

PatSeg

(47,168 posts)
12. That reminds me of strangers
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:14 AM
Jan 2018

who make racism comments to me, assuming because I'm white I feel the same way. Pretty much the same way you might talk about the weather. What kind of a bubble do such people live in?

LuckyCharms

(17,402 posts)
13. I'm white, and I was at this party once...
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:29 AM
Jan 2018

a circle of white guys standing around talking about jobs, drinking beer (back when I drank beer).

This one guy had previously worked at a large company, but worked somewhere else now. I asked him why he left the old job and he said he got laid off and he was replaced by a "black guy".

Well, he WHISPERED "black guy". Picture that...he's talking in a normal voice and he whispered "black guy".

I said...Why are you whispering? Doesn't he know he's black?

Nervous laughter by him...then he changed the subject.

I don't understand people.

PatSeg

(47,168 posts)
26. "Doesn't he know he's black?"
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:30 PM
Jan 2018

Brilliant response!

Awhile back I lived in Sacramento, the most diverse city I've ever known. I knew a game store manager who couldn't be much whiter, even had red hair. One day a customer made some derogatory comments about some black guys in the store, thinking big white Wayne would be on the same page. Little did that guy know that Wayne was married to a black woman and had two children. I can't remember what Wayne said to him, but he was surprisingly cool about it, finding the guy's ignorance laughable.

What makes people think it is okay to share their racism with anyone, anywhere without repercussions? They do the same thing with gay people, mindbogglingly stupid.

LuckyCharms

(17,402 posts)
37. Oh yeah! In my experience...
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:18 PM
Jan 2018

They degrade blacks, gays, trans people and poor people. I see it when I lurk on facebook (haven't posted on fb for a long time). They post this horrible degrading stuff, and they have people on their friends list that are black, gay, whatever.

They don't care.

I wonder if anyone reminds them that they are insulting people that are their "friends". I think the reason that their friends have not unfriended them is because they probably cut them out of their news feed and don't see their crap.

And as you say...they don't know who they are talking to. Mixed race marriages are very very common. I'm not a very social guy, yet I still know more than a few mixed race couples. Could you imagine making a racist comment to someone whose spouse was a different race? I don't know...I guess they just don't care?

PatSeg

(47,168 posts)
56. I don't know either
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:43 PM
Jan 2018

Maybe people they know haven't put them down enough. Years ago, I worked at a restaurant where we had regulars daily, many retired. They usually sat at the counter and talked to their friends and the wait staff. It was their social time, often their only interaction with other people. We all got to know them quite well, even though they weren't friends outside of work.

One day there was a black family with several young children eating at one of the booths and one of our favorite coffee-sucks said to me, "They're cute until they grow up". I thought, "Damn, you don't know anything about me, my friends, or my family. Why would you say something like that?" I knew him well enough, that I could put him down for it and he was careful not to cross that line again. Maybe some of these people don't get called on their bigotry and racism often enough. Evidently he respected me enough that he took it well.

As for Facebook, the only people I have unfriended did or said something that I construed as racist. They crossed the line for me. I had known them all for quite some time and two were in-laws. Being a Trump supporter would also be cause for unfriending, as I see Trumpism as just another word for racism.

cutroot

(873 posts)
16. 'Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.'
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:42 AM
Jan 2018

Mark Twain

Aristus

(66,250 posts)
19. If you didn't grab him by the face, smash his head into the wall, pants him,
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:48 AM
Jan 2018

then throw him out of the dealership, and clap your hands together to brush his contamination off, then I'd say you controlled your anger very well.

LuckyCharms

(17,402 posts)
20. Thanks for that.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:54 AM
Jan 2018

I am still embarrassed by my reaction. As an adult, heck even as a child, I don't think I have ever initiated physical violence. But I'll tell you...I have no qualms about shooting my stupid mouth off.

Whenever I get to the point of potential violence, I just think...prison...I'll go to prison...I'll get sued, and I'll get hurt...back down.

Aristus

(66,250 posts)
22. Oh good!
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:08 PM
Jan 2018

I get the rich Nigerian princes and the 'sexy mature women are looking for you!' all to myself!

rainin

(3,010 posts)
23. OMG this is sooooo true!!! It drives me crazy!!
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:08 PM
Jan 2018

I have NEVER heard a liberal do that. Only bat shit crazy hateful racist uninformed Limbaugh listening Fox viewing low IQ Republicans do that. I know someone's a liberal when they are helping people who are less fortunate than them, when they are expressing concern about someone's welfare, when their words lift up the people around them. I have never heard a republican talk about patience, kindness, charity, peacefulness, which BTW among the virtues used to describe Jesus Christ.

Republicans assume because I am white and I live in a red state that I want to hear about the ginned up fear and hate. I don't. But, I've never known what to say to them in return. I'm just offended.

I literally stopped going to any family Christmas or Thanksgiving gatherings for this exact reason. My Republican "Christian" (VERY UN JESUS-LIKE) family had no filter on their political views. To speak up would have just created an argument. So, I chose to not attend rather than to be silent. Engaging was not an option, not attending was.

Thank you for this post! Maybe you made one person more aware of his actions. Hopefully, he will think twice before he makes assumptions.

LuckyCharms

(17,402 posts)
39. Another thing is when they degrade people on
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:26 PM
Jan 2018

any type of assistance. As normal, thinking, reasoning and rational people, we understand that SNAP benefits are a tiny portion of the federal budget. We also understand that the vast majority of the people receiving these benefits deserve them.

These people though? They don't care. They spend their time complaining about people on SNAP benefits.

You can try explaining the facts to them, but you can't get through. So I usually just ask them why they worry so much about what others do. I tell them to keep their own house clean before they start complaining about others.

Oh, as long as I'm ranting, here's another thing...complaining about people who wear their pants too low. That's literally something I spend zero amount of time thinking about. I don't care how people dress. I have bigger problems. These people though? If someone walks by them and their pants are a bit too low, it's like they got slapped or something...they have a fit. I'm starting to think these people should be classified as mentally ill (the complainers, I mean).

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
42. Its interesting - I just explained the budget and how little we pay to keep people fed
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:38 PM
Jan 2018

To a guy who had no idea what was wrong w Trump that people hated him. He was kinda shocked the older white bartender preferred Hillary too. I think it’s probably the only reason he listened- that this old white guy agreed w me. But he actually listened. We were both afraid of it getting ugly. But I think the guy found out liberals are not al horrible people.

catbyte

(34,306 posts)
24. They live in their psychotic little TRUMPRAVDA, er, Fox-PAC/Hannity/Rush bubble &
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:28 PM
Jan 2018

think that the entire country thinks like they do. I remember how shocked they all were when Obama won by a landslide in 2012. Hate Media had them all convinced that the entire country despised the President as much as they did and thought he'd be swept away in a teabagger tide. It's a goddamned psychosis & cult mentality. Sick, sick, sick.

LittleGirl

(8,277 posts)
40. that's when my
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:27 PM
Jan 2018

right wing brother stopped talking to my Mother, right after the election in '12.

we never talked politics in our family but he knew my mother voted for Obama and just quit talking to her. He had lived out of town (same state) for 30 yrs and just abruptly stopped calling his mother every weekend. Broke my Mother's heart. She's 85 now and they are speaking after 3 yrs of him shutting her out. My other brother and I will never forgive him for that.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
27. They listen to RW radio all the time.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:34 PM
Jan 2018

The hosts of those shows rant and shout and they so fucking rude to everyone who disagrees with them. They listen to that for hours a day, day after day, and they come to think that's acceptable behavior in real life. I bet that guy does like that at home and within his circle of RWer friends, too, and they all bob their heads up and down and agree whenever he spouts off. With strangers in your situation, they'll either be RWers and agree with him, or they'll decide he's a nutcase and keep their mouths shut. The asshole was probably completely gobsmacked that you spoke up. You may have been the first person to disagree with him - and to say so - in a very long time.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
38. insightfull - yes
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:20 PM
Jan 2018

Some people (lot of guys usually) never grow up past 12. They find "talk radio" and think it's "the shit" - the strong alpha male way to be.

Most reasonable people never smack them down - encouraging their behavior, etc. Mix in general rage (and or guns) and they are a weak, scary, dangerous bunch of brainwashed idiots.

3catwoman3

(23,931 posts)
28. You are exactly right.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:36 PM
Jan 2018

"I can't imagine a liberal walking into a room with a stranger in it and the FIRST thing they say is something about their political beliefs."

I never, and I mean NEVER, make any sort of broad pronouncement about my opinion on any topic to anyone, known to me or stranger, unless I have some inkling about how that person feels about whatever topic might be under discussion. I wouldn't announce, "I hate country music," or "Golf is soooooooo boring," or "Believing in god is stupid," etc, etc. Nor do I EVER assume someone feels the same way that I do about any topic.

I admire your gumption in responding to that jerk. I'm sure it didn't make a dent in him, but it must have felt good, nonetheless.

I am finding my own above-mentioned rule for myself harder and harder to abide by. A couple of years ago, we were at a Christmas party hosted by a couple that we have known for many at least 15 years - their daughter were schoolmates of our sons from elementary thru high school, and both hubbies are pilots. My husband was telling our host about our younger, lead-footed son's second driver's license suspension for speeding. The host piped up, "What you need to do is get yourself a good Jew lawyer." I was shocked speechless, and thought to myself, "It obviously doesn't occur to him that I might be Jewish." I'm not, but he had no way to know that. We've not seen him since, and I'm sure he has no idea that he has permanently changed my opinion of him.

One of my best friends from age 8-18 is all over Facebook posting things about "libtards," immigrants, and welfare recipients. (She is a born-again Christian on her 3rd marriage.) She likely has no idea that she is talking about me when she talks about "libtards." Many of the people who respond to her are folks I also went to school with, and I am resisting with all my might the temptation to reply, "How disappointing to know that so many people I grew up with are narrow-minded, racists bigots." 2019 will be our 50th class reunion. I'm not sure I want to go.

While my husband and I were waiting to go into a workout class just a few days ago, one of the men in the class was griping about the "maternity hotels" that Chinese women are frequenting. He rattled on for a few sentences, and was getting supportive comments from some other people who also go to the class. I finally said, "Russian women are doing it too, and they are staying in Trump hotels."

I was in line at the grocery store, probably about a year ago, and added a copy of a commemorative issue of a magazine about President Obama to my cart. The old jerk in line behind me said, "You don't want THAT in your house, do you?" Uncharacteristically, I turned around and said, loudly for me, "Don't even start with me,' and then turned away. It wasn't much, but it felt good.

We live in Illinois, in an unfortunately very red county.

LuckyCharms

(17,402 posts)
44. Oh God, that maternity hotel thing...
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jan 2018

I see this too. I have no idea what they are talking about, but they all seem to go by the same playbook. They all complain about the same thing at the same time.

If I don't end up losing my shit when interacting with them...here's what I do. I have a good steely stare. I just stare a hole through them. Then I might say something very softly like "WTF dude" or "really"? That usually works lol.

Keep up the good work.

3catwoman3

(23,931 posts)
54. One of my soon-to-be 96 year old...
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:31 PM
Jan 2018

...mom's favorite phrases, when she is pissed at someone, is, "I stared a hole right thru him." She can do the Spock thing of raising a single eyebrow, which adds emphasis. I wish I could do that, but I can't. Must be genetic, like tongue-rolling.

I hear so much verbatim spewing of RX talking points that I could scream. The spewers don't even bother to put things in their own words. No thought, no analysis - just mindless, reflex regurgitation.

Prue

(139 posts)
29. The Unavoidable
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:39 PM
Jan 2018

Somethings are unavoidable so you should focus on how you would have felt had you not responded. Reflection is good......it prepares you for the next encounter. :0)

Mira

(22,380 posts)
30. Great story. Actually,
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:42 PM
Jan 2018

to my great embarrassment I must say I am a liberal who does engage people with politics sometime. Not if there is no impetus, but it does not take much
Once I was in a doctor's waiting room. 5-6 people forced to watch Fox news. I asked the folks if they were paying attention and they all said no. I then asked the person at the desk to turn it off, that I was offended but she did not care and said no.

I said I need a separate room then in which to wait.
I ended up in a large closet with the light on.
I had brought a book.
I did not care, smiled, and thanked them for understanding.

LuckyCharms

(17,402 posts)
45. Just look at the TV and shake your head...
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:47 PM
Jan 2018

and whisper something like "unfreaking believable". You did a good job at the doc.

marble falls

(56,943 posts)
35. I have to admit the TrumpAsses do it all the time here in Marble Falls and if I am anywhere...
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:17 PM
Jan 2018

I see any sign of them I pre-empt them calmly but loudly and firmly. In the last few months they are a lot less likely to chime back. I've had quite a few more people tell me they agree with me. We let those idiots intimidate us with their obnoxiousness and the only thing that works is pushing back firmly and civilly, but I will escalate as they do.

Haven't been part of a geezer fight, yet; and there are those at church who keep their Trumpisms to themselves when I am in the social hall, but they make more their POVs seem more prevalent they are.

Guys like you and I are doing a civic service by exposing them as the bullies they are and giving permission to others to push back, and understand TrumpAsses are not the majority.

LittleGirl

(8,277 posts)
36. Summer of 2016
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:17 PM
Jan 2018

I flew up to the Midwest see my Mother and went to see my favorite local band play. My sister was also there and I haven't seen or spoken to her in 4 years because she watches fox spews and listens to limbaugh every day. The first thing she says to me is "how's Obama?"

What? I say.

Do you like Obama? I look at her like she has two heads and say, of course, I like Obama and what does that have to do with anything here. Nice to see you too.

I took the high road but she was and is one of those blasted Goppers that must bring up politics every where she goes. I really don't like that woman at all and will look forward to not seeing or speaking to her again until my Mother passes away. My Mother is 85 and a liberal like me who loved Obama.

LuckyCharms

(17,402 posts)
41. Well, I'll give you a little support.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:38 PM
Jan 2018

I went "no contact" with 2 siblings 5 years ago and I have not looked back. I am the victim of narcissistic abuse. This was about the time my mom passed away. They were not there, because they couldn't be bothered. It was up to me to be her caretaker. I watched her die. I won't go into the details, but I did things for her that no son should ever have to do. 5 years later and I still wake up sweating and screaming and crying.

Cutting people out of your life is a personal decision, and never feel bad for making that decision. You know what is best for you...no one else does. My limited outside view based only on your post tells me that not talking to her again is the right thing for you to do. If you can get through stuff like this, you will become stronger than you ever thought you could be. I know I am, in spite of the damage that has been done to me.

Best wishes to you.

LittleGirl

(8,277 posts)
43. Thank you
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jan 2018

It's hard and my Mother refuses to fund a funeral for herself because my siblings don't speak to each other. She has all of her final moments set up for cremation and we have no say over it. She's afraid that my younger brother will beat up my older brother and since my sister and I don't speak either, it's for the best. She doesn't want us to have a family brawl at her showing or memorial service. That's how bad it is. Thanks for the comforting words. I'm so sorry you had to take care of your mother like that. You're a good human.

LuckyCharms

(17,402 posts)
46. Thank you for understanding.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:49 PM
Jan 2018

It's a rough road, isn't it? I can't wait until my extended family starts clutching their pearls when I don't go to their funerals, assuming they pass before me.

LittleGirl

(8,277 posts)
48. Indeed
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:02 PM
Jan 2018

I won't be attending anything either but thankfully, we're all over the country so it's not possible.

I live in AZ now so if I don't outlive them, they won't come to my funeral either.

Family hasn't been a good experience for me. Peace to you.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
47. Well, as all the polls show, this country is made up of about 30% assholes.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:51 PM
Jan 2018

But that leaves 70% non-assholes. Bravo to you for dealing with one of the 30%. I suspect that a lot of them need to spout off just to keep reassuring themselves that they are correct. Since the country is split about 50-50 between R and D, that means that there are about 20% that are trying desperately to keep their heads down and hope no one notices them.

Back as a kid in the 50's (yeah, I really am that old) when I was about 10, my parents sent me to summer camp. It was way down in North Carolina and way, way back in the hills, run by a family of Quakers. The really interesting thing was that the camp was fully integrated and none of us campers actually noticed. One day a few of us wandered into town (supervised of course). One of my buddies who I had met at camp and I needed haircuts. So, when we saw a barbershop we went in. When it was my buddy's turn the barber turned to him and said something along the lines of, "I've been cutting hair in this town for about 20 years now but I've never cut a negro's hair. But if your willing, I'll do my best to give you a haircut." My buddy said OK, climbed into the chair and got a pretty decent haircut.

So, yeah, let the assholes have it with both barrels when they expose their idiocy, because even most of those who don't agree with us liberals don't expose themselves in public. They are our friends and neighbors and we can talk about lots of things. The really good ones will even talk politics with us and agree to disagree, although they tend NOT to be Trumpinistas.

Runningdawg

(4,509 posts)
49. Immediately after Benghazi
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:03 PM
Jan 2018

I don't know how I did it but I managed to stand quietly without saying a word while a cashier railed about how Libs love the fact Chris Stevens was "butt fucked" (she repeated those exact words several times) by Muslims. She was reported to the manager on duty and a letter was sent to the company. I don't shop there anymore but I know even if they fired her, she had no trouble finding another job in OK.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,358 posts)
52. My father's family wasn't well to do by any means...
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:16 PM
Jan 2018

yet my grandfather and grandmother never turned anyone away who needed a meal... (I'm 68 to put this into time perspective)... they were kind gentle people...YET they both told me and my cousins that you stand for what you believe in and YOU DON'T TAKE SHIT FROM ANYBODY.

It's caused me problems throughout the years but I tell you what - I can live with it.

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brewens

(13,517 posts)
55. They honestly think almost everyone agrees with them. Especially the ones who's family
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:31 PM
Jan 2018

are all RW.

I had this kid at the Budweiser distributor I worked for. He was new and right away I noticed he always listened to Limbaugh on when he was working on a couple tasks. I only told him it had to be music when I was out there. He didn't mind that.

One day I come in when everyone else is at lunch and see someone has an anti Clinton flyer on the bulletin board. It was when Bill was president. I think I remember it being from a group called Gun Owners of America. I took it down and stuck it in my desk.

I see the kid later and he's noticed and is pissed it got taken down. I told him I took it because we didn't put political stuff like that up. I gave it back and he ignored me and put it back up. Later, the boss saw it and blew up! He's a republican from hell but did not allow that crap! No political bumper stickers on vehicles in our lot either. I was chuckling and he came in and I said, "don't look at me, it's our new boy out in the warehouse!" I freakin' tried to tell him!

Even our boss knew to not put anything up that would piss off any customer. Even in Idaho in our area, you still have something like 40% democrats. No one notices that shit missing. They won't boycott you for being neutral at a business.

TxDemChem

(1,918 posts)
57. I have noticed this phenomena as well
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:00 PM
Jan 2018

My boss (about to retire) did that to me when I first started working with her nearly a decade ago. She brought up death panels and I had to try my damndest not to laugh in her face. I warned my new boss (who she is training while I’m out on maternity leave) that she may do that him one day soon. I haven’t talked to him since I left, but it wouldn’t surprise me if she is even more emboldened.

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