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Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:31 AM

 

I Like to confront Trump voters. I ask them this question.

Who taught you to hate so much? You were not born that way. You are listening to people that make you hate. Have you ever thought about that?

I tell them I am a democrat, I am a liberal and I am not your enemy. You were taught that I am your enemy. You're being mislead, you're being lied to.

They usually go silent.

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Reply I Like to confront Trump voters. I ask them this question. (Original post)
shockey80 Jan 2018 OP
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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:32 AM

1. i like it...

Sincerity in the face of cult-like programming CAN sometimes work.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:35 AM

2. I'm going to say something that you won't like...

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They DON'T all hate so much, and it's a bad idea to imagine that they do.

Yes, the 33% core of the Trump voters hat anything different: Blacks, foreigners, Muslims, Gays, etc. But we're never go to shift their votes, nor do we need to.

However, a fraction of the Trump voters were middle of the road working class who became tired of what they saw as Government failing to address their economic needs, and decided that, as bad as Trump might be, any change was an improvement over the status quo that wasn't working for them. Some of them had previously voted for Obama. And those are the voters we need to win back. Stereotyping and confronting them based on that stereotype isn't a productive strategy.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:13 AM

9. Let such people come back to us on their own.

We've got better, more productive things to do, other than expending time and resources on people who were gullible enough to fall for trump's bullshit. Let them recognize the error of their ways and come back to us. Fuck the rest of them.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:38 AM

3. This Hatred of Liberals Was Created by the Republican Party at the End of the Cold War

They required a new enemy to hate and focused on Democrats. This divisiveness is a result of cynical Republican propaganda. Your questions are a tool we can all use.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:49 AM

4. The Trump voters I meet all talk hate.

 

They hate Clinton. She never did anything to them. They were taught to hate her. They hate immigrants. They have never been hurt by an immigrant. As a matter of fact chances are it will be a white person, friend, lover, co worker, boss that will hurt them during their lives. They hate pro choice people. They think we are pro abortion. They don't understand the word choice.

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Response to shockey80 (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:07 AM

8. Ask Them If They Are Against

Poor children receiving health care via CHIP.

Victims of domestic violence having someplace to escape to.

Funding for recovery after the attacks on 9/11.

The UN sanctions on Iran in 2010.

South Korea removing tariffs on imports.

That should shut some of them up. For a while, anyway.

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Response to Leith (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:24 AM

11. You forgot SS and Medicare

 

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Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:29 AM

12. I Was Keeping It Specific to HRC's Accomplishments

b/c of the content of the post I was responding to.

But, you are correct about Democratic accomplishments in general.

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Response to Leith (Reply #12)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:32 AM

14. Sorry; thx......could go on and on about how almost every plank in the KGOP platform leads to

 

Neofeudalism

They are the party of Mr. Creosote

Edit:

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/77372

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:53 AM

5. I ask them if they realize that hatred leads to

Heart Disease

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 10:58 AM

6. The other night my right wing coworker goes off

 

He was whining about some family health care plan he had years ago that was too expensive or whatever and then launches into a diatribe about “scumbags” who get free health care and are “pieces of shit” as far as he was concerned.

I asked him why blame poor people and instead blame the system that charges people unreasonable prices for a basic human right? He of course shut the fuck up with his passive aggressive “I don’t want to get into the politics of it” blowoff but the hate was clearly seething. Never mind his own daughter is on all sorts of federal assistance but he says nothing about that....

The hate is palpable.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:00 AM

7. They only tell you

that Liberals are the ones who hate. They think we hate Christians and all white people, makes no difference if you tell them we are the inclusive ones. They hate all the different ones we include (gay, women, minorities, foreign born, etc.)

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:21 AM

10. "The greatest country in the world" that doesn't even have healthcare.

There's no comeback for that.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:30 AM

13. Yeah, if you can't afford to pay for your own health care

you shouldn't have been born! I wouldn't be surprised if many of them think that!

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:33 AM

15. How do you know who is a trump voter?

 

Do these people all self identify to you upon meeting?

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:36 AM

16. I spent a day with some other business women at a networking event.

Two were friends & Christian. They made sure to let all of us know that. I avoided them as best I could, but I couldn't help but overhear a lot of their conversation. It was full of hate & dislike. They discussed things they didn't like. "Oh, I hate that movie." "I can't stand the way she styles her hair these days." (This about a common friend.) "I hate when the store doesn't have what I want." It was I hate this & I hate that & I can't stand this & that. I thought it was interesting.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:40 AM

17. strange thing here is 99% of them cannot

tell you why they hate Obama, and THAT'S THE TRUTH (it really is because they were TOLD TO HATE HIM) kinda like the Hatfields and the Mccoys

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 11:58 AM

18. Twitler supporters are also so angry

And if you get under their skin thy start screaming at you because you messed up their talking point.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:11 PM

19. They might not have been born that way

but their parents and peers made sure they learned it early in life. Think about it - how many people actually choose their religion? For most, it was inherited from their parents. It's the same with hate.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:00 PM

20. I dont mess with his voters and loyalists because...

There are about 47 million individuals in that cesspool. There were 219 million eligible voters and only 161 million voted, therefore it is much more important to spend time talking to the 90 million who didn’t vote. That’s where my efforts are going.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:03 PM

21. I find that excellent with one proviso

I have yet to meet a Trump supporter willing to listen to me for the length of time necessary to say all that.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 07:10 AM

22. For one thing, they've been conditioned to believe that they hate us

And unless they choose to reject that conditioning, they're not going to think about us any differently.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 07:43 AM

23. They would say it's the Democrats that hate so much

 

Why do you all hate Trump so much? Why are you so angry all the time? Blah blah blah.

They would say liberals are being lied to.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 07:50 AM

24. I don't bother. It's a cult-like religion, replacing whatever perversions of Christianity they had.

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