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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:05 PM Jan 2018

McConnell Calls for 1 a.m. Vote


January 21, 2018 at 8:28 am EST By Taegan Goddard

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has called for a vote to end the government shutdown at 1 a.m. on Monday, the Washington Post reports.

McConnell’s plan would keep the government open through February 8 but is unlikely to include any of the concessions Democrats are seeking on immigration.

Politico: “Both sides dug in on Saturday, signaling they were prepared for a longer impasse. Both sides tried to hammer each other on their political messaging. And it was clear that the respective party leaders believed the other had badly misjudged the mood of the country.”

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https://politicalwire.com/2018/01/21/mcconnell-calls-vote-1/
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McConnell Calls for 1 a.m. Vote (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2018 OP
We will see what happens. One thing I know, McConnell operates only.. Stuart G Jan 2018 #1
I know, he is a really detestable creature. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #4
and his ratings in Kentucky are among the worst ... SWBTATTReg Jan 2018 #5
Yet he keeps getting "elected." Russian help really works. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #8
Chinese billionaires are undoubtedly concerned. Government Hortensis Jan 2018 #16
People like McConnell have no loyalty. But China and Russia have similar goals. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #17
If so, let's see how long that "alliance" of enemies lasts. Hortensis Jan 2018 #18
Yes, as soon as America is no longer a superpower, and diminished Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #19
Your premise is deeply flawed. How do you imagine Hortensis Jan 2018 #23
The US will no longer be the sole superpower in the next two decades. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #24
Well, no longer "the sole superpower" brings your Hortensis Jan 2018 #25
If we don't stand up to this bullying, LakeVermilion Jan 2018 #2
You said it! BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #9
Stay strong Democrats. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #3
So right. Demtexan Jan 2018 #6
How many times did the repukes try to repeal Ocare? SammyWinstonJack Jan 2018 #12
He will not have the votes Freethinker65 Jan 2018 #7
So if it passes does Shithole get a 3 am phone call to sign it? underpants Jan 2018 #10
No... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #22
Nappy, nappy time. Baitball Blogger Jan 2018 #11
2 conditions Jersey Devil Jan 2018 #13
"promise"? eleny Jan 2018 #21
Paging George Papadopoulos ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #14
Yeah, he cares about the mood of the country. tavernier Jan 2018 #15
Kabuki theater for the Godsmacked... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #20

Stuart G

(38,410 posts)
1. We will see what happens. One thing I know, McConnell operates only..
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:08 PM
Jan 2018

for McConnell and no one else. I dislike him a whole lot.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Chinese billionaires are undoubtedly concerned. Government
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 06:07 PM
Jan 2018

also. He's supposed to be their man, to stay bought, not play footsie with their old foe to their west.

Irish_Dem

(46,435 posts)
17. People like McConnell have no loyalty. But China and Russia have similar goals.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 06:25 PM
Jan 2018

Both want to be superpowers and destabilize the US.

I think we are going to see a new Sino-Soviet alliance.
Add in India and Pakistan and the alliance contains a big
chunk of the world's population.

Irish_Dem

(46,435 posts)
19. Yes, as soon as America is no longer a superpower, and diminished
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 06:39 PM
Jan 2018

greatly, China and Russia will probably be at each other's throats for the
#1 spot.

I put my money on China, they play the long game, tend to not have public battles
with opponents, and are pragmatic. They are much more level headed, patient
and calm than Putin and the Russians.

And when Putin goes, who knows what will happen with Russia.
China has a longer term stability.

My .02.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. Your premise is deeply flawed. How do you imagine
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:42 PM
Jan 2018

we could STOP being a superpower any time in the foreseeable future, even if we wanted to?

Itm, the dreams of Putin and conservative Russians across the nation to invade a couple dozen sovereign nations around its borders are a serious threat for China. The last thing it needs is the former Soviet Union reconstituted as one giant next-door nation under authoritarian control.

China's plan to expand its influence and access to natural resources across western Eurasia is similarly a huge not-in-this-millennium to Russia.

Itm, both have huge internal problems that threaten their stability and ability merely to maintain. Far more serious than ours. Btw, Russia is not really an advanced, developed nation on par with the community of such. Its size has always mislead it into visions of greatness far beyond its current capabilities.

Irish_Dem

(46,435 posts)
24. The US will no longer be the sole superpower in the next two decades.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:56 PM
Jan 2018

I stand by that statement.

And China is going to be a force to be reckoned with.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Well, no longer "the sole superpower" brings your
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 03:56 PM
Jan 2018

thoughts back into the realm of what most experts seem to consider very possible/probable. Even assuming backlash here in the U.S. against electing incompetents, I'm guessing China would not need anything like two decades to become a superpower. Its centralized authoritarian government is a tremendous asset for directing an entire nation to one goal.

Russia? It's a real mess. Like all of us, it first has to avoid being its own worst enemy. Itm, that whole top government is exporting as much of its wealth as fast as possible to private accounts in case they need to leave.

Climate change is going to bring enormous problems to us all, including social and political. Increased civil unrest in both China and Russia is guaranteed. Did I mention that China's fresh water supplies are already severely, destabilizingly low in many regions? Perhaps technology will help solve that problem.

Yada yada. Of the 3, we're the strongest and most trusted and will probably remain so. With all our faults and mistakes, until recently we had a long, proven history of being a very needed stabilizing force for the planet. Call me cynical, but when it comes to overdeveloping their own militaries or continuing to lean on us, most nations will probably be willing to let us purchase some renewed "trust" and alliances. Not that I want to continue subsidizing other advanced nations, only that I suspect it's likely to continue with only some shifting of the load.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
3. Stay strong Democrats.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:11 PM
Jan 2018

The Republicans have a long-term strategy -- which ends with cuts to Medicare and Medicaid.

Make them face the consequences of their terrible tax bill right now.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
6. So right.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:22 PM
Jan 2018

Time to draw a line in the sand.

No more.

The whole goal was to blame the Democratic members of Congress for this mess.

Wounded Bear

(58,584 posts)
22. No...
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 06:42 PM
Jan 2018

It has to go to the Houser first, which doesn't seem likely to pass it unchanged. Then reconciliation.

They could get it done in a day or two if everybody was in sync. I hear a lot of cacophony.

Jersey Devil

(9,873 posts)
13. 2 conditions
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 04:59 PM
Jan 2018

1 - Senate must promise to hold immigration vote on DACA before Feb 8.

2- House must agree to allow a vote on immigration if Senate passes immigration bill.

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