Patriots vs Jags.... Deadspin article on the officiating

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https://deadspin.com/lean-into-the-patriots-conspiracy-theory-1822293283?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow&__twitter_impression=true



Don't miss the videos at the end of the refs celebrating with the Patriots.

And people wonder why most people hate the Patriots and are fed up with the NFL.

[MLAA]

1. The part that is crystal clear is the refs celebrating

Stand alone the calls could be argued either way (though they are suspicious). However there is no doubt about the celebrating. The refs should be demoted for such partisan behavior. It calls into question their earlier calls.

[ExciteBike66]

4. Those dang refs smiling on the field!

You should see my comment on the OP below...

[MLAA]

5. It looked to me like the ref was celebrating the outcome of the game not normal banter/ interaction

during the game.

[ExciteBike66]

8. And it looked to me like the ref was smiling... nt

[Amishman]

12. More damning is the repeated blatant holding by NE

Watch the last TD drive, particularly the extended passing plays. Pay attention to the NE linemen. Brady had all day because his linemen we're getting away with anything they wanted.

[underpants]

2. Oh brother. I knew the smiling ref was going to be a "thing"

As far as the one at the end - the head Ref and the QB's have a relationship that builds during the game. I'd bet he congratulated Bortles too.

The interference call in the first half was clearly interference. As far as the non-calls yeah yeah yeah.

From earlier in the season

[ExciteBike66]

3. Lol at the whole "Refs celebrating" conspiracy!

There is a video where a ref is smiling, wow! You know they happen to smile a lot, right? Every game you see players and refs talking on the field, and sometimes even jokes are told!

The first link below is two refs obviously conspiring with Jim Harbaugh...


https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS770US770&biw=1920&bih=989&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=MAhmWsiTO4Si_QbyvpqwAg&q=referee+talking+to+nfl+player&oq=referee+talking+to+nfl+player&gs_l=psy-ab.3...39932.43170.0.43365.27.22.3.0.0.0.142.1692.17j4.21.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..3.2.131...0j0i30k1j0i8i30k1.0.6XM-KBdCPTA#imgrc=GfkXZk0J2y6ZuM:

https://www.google.com/search?q=ref+smiling+at+player&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS770US770&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi26Jns9evYAhURmeAKHcqbDHIQsAQIJw&biw=1920&bih=989#imgrc=aU6Q7MH6uxeCTM:

https://www.google.com/search?q=ref+smiling+at+player&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS770US770&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi26Jns9evYAhURmeAKHcqbDHIQsAQIJw&biw=1920&bih=989#imgrc=B_Fpr9POh-o7eM:

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS770US770&biw=1920&bih=989&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=AQhmWvXCMLK1ggfJyLkY&q=referee+looks+happy&oq=referee+looks+happy&gs_l=psy-ab.3...42073.46373.0.46550.24.20.3.1.2.0.75.1009.20.20.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.16.625...0j0i67k1j0i10k1j0i30k1j0i5i30k1j0i13k1j0i13i5i30k1.0.obw4vvl8wyg#imgrc=EX8cLV982meJSM:

[MagickMuffin]

6. Well D'uh

It's very apparent who the "officials" are for, it doesn't take a college degree to recognize it.

[Blue_Adept]

13. It just requires a lot of tinfoil

That's thankfully cheap, at least!

[bathroommonkey76]

41. You need to stop snorting that magical muffin dust.

[yallerdawg]

7. There's some wishful thinking on Jag's calls.

Pass interference is pass interference. Period.

And the Jack call? Seriously? If Lewis had held the ball, he was down. Play over. Suggesting Jack, on the ground next to Lewis, could get up and run is ridiculous.

There isn't a play in the NFL where something couldn't be called.

And referees interacting with the players, or acknowledging perhaps the greatest quarterback of all time?

[mythology]

9. If there isn't a play where something couldn't be called

Why were so many more penalties called on Jacksonville?

Also given Brady and two of his coaches have been caught cheating, calling him the greatest is a bad joke.

[rufus dog]

11. Exactly

The left DE for the Jags was getting held throughout the game, multiple times. It was obvious on outside pass rushes, two isolated players. Could holding be called all the time, yes, was it ever called on the Pats, NO.


I found it somewhat suspicious that a key Mercedes Lewis play was not shown on replay. From the wide angle it looks like we was spun/grabbed while the pass was in the air, a penalty. No tight replay was ever shown.

[uponit7771]

19. Yep, Brady supporters consistently leave the cheating part out of the conversation

[ExciteBike66]

29. Oh come on, slightly deflated balls did not put up 45 points on the colts by themselves.

And of course all the balls have checked since then.

If you have something concrete about current cheating, then perhaps you should share it.

[ProfessorGAC]

46. Certainly, You Do Not Include. . .

. . .underinflated footballs in your cheating paradigm. If so, you need to read up on the ideal gas law and do the math.

On Edit: I'm a fan of the Chicago Bears

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22. that pass interference call was on a pass that was not catchable

That was the first and most blatant.

But then the best cheating quarterback of all time would have had an incomplete pass on his stats.

[yallerdawg]

25. When the defender impedes the receiver's progress...

grabs him and shoves him out of bounds, it doesn't matter if the ball was catchable.

That's why they call it pass interference!

[JenniferJuniper]

27. What? It was textbook pass interference.

I get hating the Patriots because they have been dominating for so long now but the fake "ref's fixed the game" is getting ridiculous.

[Johonny]

10. General rule for happiness, don't watch Pats games

I didn't and won't in future. Perfectly happy without football. Seasons over for me.

I got the same rule for Yankees and Lakers

[panader0]

14. The Patriots going to the SB again is going

to cost the NFL much of it's audience.

[Johonny]

18. It's lost 10 percent the past five years. But I think the NFL has done a great job making Pats fans.

Much like the Yankees, the Pats now have a huge following. Thus, I think it's real danger is what comes after Tom Brady and the Pats? When the 40s-mid 60s Yankees finally faded, baseball went from Number 1 sport in America in the 40s to a distant second to the NFL by the 60s. Rating are down ten percent in 5 years. You have to wonder if those 10 percent are coming back and how many more it will lose in the near future. I really don't know. My NFL team hasn't been good in 25 years. That's a long time to fake caring. Eventually I gave out and stopped watching much more than my team if it plays the early game. My NFL team is typically out come mid-year. I'm in NBA mode now. I'm guess more and more, fans are moving on from an NFL that simply has little to offer most fan bases.

[RhodeIslandOne]

34. Bandwagon fans come and go

Patriots “fans” were Cowboys fans 25 years ago and Niners fans 30 years ago and Steelers fans before that......

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21. good advice

[Paladin]

33. VERY good advice.

I'm sick to death of sportscasters treating Brady like the second coming of Christ.

[phylny]

47. They did the same thing with Payton Manning.

I am really not a football fan, but sit in the room with my husband while he watches. Goodness gracious, the announcers all but licked Manning's cleats when he was playing.

[MontanaMama]

35. Your post made me chuckle.

I feel the same way! I won't watch the Pats for anything. My spouse and son were in a freaking dither throughout the whole game yesterday!!! I won't watch the Yankees either unless they're playing the Cubs...then Mama is on fire!

[OxQQme]

15. Zebra collusion! n/t

[jalan48]

16. I was surprised that NE was never called for holding during the game.

[gopiscrap]

17. Why anybody should be for the Patriots is beyond me. Their fucking owner

is a major contributor to the trump campaign and their quarterback Brady has also thrown in his lot with trump

[ExciteBike66]

31. And of course Kraft and Brady are the only people on the team?

Oh, and which other owners support the Republican party? All of them?

[RhodeIslandOne]

37. The Rooney family are known Democrats

So you basically have the Steelers and Giants right there.....

Paul Allen is another one.

[ExciteBike66]

39. Odd, the article I linked says Art Rooney II donated to Santorum?

Is that enough to dislike the Steelers, or is it balanced by other "good works"?


http://www.pennlive.com/steelers/index.ssf/2016/11/steelers_2016_election_donate.html

[RhodeIslandOne]

40. He donated to the guy who was his Senator 15 years ago

And has since donated to Obama, a man Bob Kraft’s best friend and entire party hates?

Different that heaping praise on the single worst President of all time months after everyone got the memo.

[ExciteBike66]

42. Oh come on,

15 years ago, DU would have roasted the guy alive for donating to Santorum! You would have been asking why anyone could possibly be a fan of a team owned by such a person.

To be clear, I am not a fan of Robert Kraft. I am a fan of his team and Brady. I am happy that Brady doesn't talk up Trump and said he didn't endorse him for President. Just because Brady might still be friends with Trump (an unknown, at this point) doesn't mean he supports his policies. It's not like Brady is out there campaigning for the guy.

[RhodeIslandOne]

44. Tom Brady comes off as an idiot

I doubt he thinks any deeper than the snap count and maybe whatever wacko woo science his quack trainer feeds him. The problems of the world don’t taint his privileged mind and he’s the type of dumbass who’d be enamored by a rich asshole like Trump who’s been America’s jocksniffer for 35 years and never think of the damage he’s doing.

Your head coach is another story. Not shocked he’s a right wing dirtbag.

[ExciteBike66]

45. I have heard of football players who are very intelligent...

they seem to be few and far between. Anyway, if Brady is truly an idiot then he is less morally bankrupt for being a trump supporter (and anyway we really don't know his level of support at this point).

Am I supposed to throw away my team (born and raised in NE) just because our QB ain't the brightest bulb?

As to Belichick, I am more ambivalent. We have long known that he is a Sith Master. I am just glad that the Pats are able to use his brain to win Superbowls. Once he retires I plan on having no further use for him...

[BannonsLiver]

20. Poor wittle delicate babies at Deadspin

I hope they get to their safe spaces quickly!

Also, I drink up the boo hoo tears of everyone on this thread. Go PATS!

[RhodeIslandOne]

30. Belicheat is the Steve Bannon of football

You can be proud that Bob Kraft is close enough to Trump that he has probably been peed on by a porn star while Trump had a finger up his rear.

[ExciteBike66]

32. Kraft isn't president, so he can get peed on as much as he likes.

Makes no difference to me!

[BannonsLiver]

36. WAhhhhh

[RhodeIslandOne]

38. .....

Hopefully, tomorrow’s election, will give you the opportunity to make America great again

Best wishes for great results tomorrow

Bill Belichick

[RhodeIslandOne]

23. I hope and pray Philly wins

But I’m not optimistic because of this.

Philly fans are passionate and the Iggles are their first love. They weren’t openly saying their team should “move to St Louis” 20 years ago because no one in the region paid attention to them and hadn’t won a thing.

[mvd]

24. Eagles keep surprising me, though

I thought they could win last night, but I never expected a 38-7 demolishing. This team seems to have a special chemistry, and Foles is playing like Super Nick right now instead of Bad Foles. Let's hope the refs are fair to both teams. I am prepared that we might have to overcome a call or two.

[RhodeIslandOne]

26. I was shocked how many picked the Vikings

I thought Philly was the better team most of the year until the Wentz injury. I felt the game would be close but being at home would give the Eagles the edge.

[randr]

28. I watched one play early in the game where I could not believe no flag was thrown

Do not remember the specifics as I do not concentrate on games anymore. Even thought I heard one announcer start to say something and the other announcer stopped them with a curt 'don't go there".

[zanana1]

43. Most people don't hate the Patriots...

But if they do, it's because the Patriots have this nasty habit of winning a lot.

[Kristofer Bry]

48. Collusion?

Not saying I believe the refs were on the Pats' side, but there can be no denying there are "media darlings" in sports