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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn 3 weeks I am in favor of Democrats trading Trump his whole border wall to save the DACA people
if necessary.
Let him have the money.
If we save these kids it's worth it and it comes with a bonus.
Trump loses twice if he takes the deal.
First, his base will hate that he gave ANYONE amnesty.
The will hate the GOP Senators and House members that vote for it too.
They all might get primaries because of it, because of their hate.
I mean capital "H" Hate.
The GOP base has such hate for people of color it clouds everything else they do.
They don't care that like 80% of people think they should get to stay.
This people will go ape-shit.
Second, then every Democratic Party campaign gets to talk about how Trump is WASTING Americans money for the wall he promised them over and over again that Mexico will pay for, that we don't even need.
It's a hammer and chisel combo that will chip away at his base and other followers from now til 2020.
When we win with the Blue Wave coming in 2018 we will stop the wall in the House or Senate anyway.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)reasons chief traitor is too fucking dumb to understand and his supporters dont understand.
The risky part is letting the "he mastered the negotiation" lie to perpetuate, but if it means saving these kids, then save them we must.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Either we walk the walk or we dont.
Irish_Dem
(46,918 posts)Wow, we sure got blackmailed big time.
Canoe52
(2,948 posts)Dont you believe him?
Irish_Dem
(46,918 posts)VMA131Marine
(4,138 posts)Give Trump some planning money for now and then cancel it after he's been impeached.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)...when we control the purse strings.
Good point.
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)A good parent doesn't cave, but it's not as though we care about raising Trump right. Those 800,000 families don't care about the principle of the thing. Just let him have it.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)....like protecting SS or Medicare.
or protections for the ACA.
renate
(13,776 posts)I kind of like the idea of turning the tables and using it as a bargaining chip.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)As long as the two arent tied to each other in any way. I dont think many have thought their way through the wall. Outside of small sections, most will be hung up in the courts for years. The visual of small I completed sections wont look good for Republicans.
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)sellitman
(11,606 posts)No.
Hard line in the Sand. Let the GOP run after seeing DACA people deported.
It will be a blue wave the likes we have never seen.
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)I am unwilling to sacrifice the lives of 700,000 people, where America Is the only home they have ever known, To be deported For a political agenda. Our party does the right thing by people, not letting them suffer so we can score political victories. Thats what the Republicans do.
standingtall
(2,785 posts)0.3% of the total population. That border wall will be a lasting symbol of racism to marginalize Hispanic Americans for generations. Not worth the trade off.