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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Day Trump is Forced to Step Down.
I don't think there was a combined jovial outburst the day Nixon was forced out, but I expect people to run out of their houses screaming for joy the day that Trump realizes it's time to take the most face saving exit strategy that Mueller allows him. And I base this on a personal experience.
I once worked for company that owned three floors of a building in downtown Orlando. There were no real walls on our floor, except for cubicles on three corners for the managers. The elevators and stairs where in the center and the desks, many, many desks, were faced away from the windows. The tough economic times of the 80s played out on that floor. People survived the best way they knew how, and that sometimes meant bringing out the worst in some people. In particular, one female manager who was just down right mean. She would pit people against each other and if you were targeted, you were going to have a rough time at work. She would find every opportunity to ridicule you publicly. For those she had in her sights, the only thing that saved them were benign male managers who seemed to understand what was going on. They couldn't stop her, but they tried to step in and move people around to keep them out of her way.
I left the company in the mid-eighties for my own reasons and heard updates from friends over the following years. The company was cutting employment rolls. It became so systematic that home office sent representatives who took residence in a hotel across the street. One by one, people were being called across the street and would return in tears, fired. Most of the ones who were let go were clerical. But one day the female manager was called down. No one knew why, for sure. Was she there to help them cull the workers?
But, someone who was in the vicinity of the meeting in the hotel heard what went down and called ahead to let everyone know what had happened. Once it made it to the floor, the word spread and you could hear the reaction like a noise wave as it spread around desk by desk around the floor. There were cheers, cries of joy and relief. No one held back. Not even the fact that the woman's husband worked on that same floor kept them from withholding their emotional outbursts.
And I predict, that the day that Trump leaves office, it will be like that.
SWBTATTReg
(22,112 posts)JenniferJuniper
(4,510 posts)Can't a bad manager just be a bad manager or do you have an issue in general with women in management?
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Why assume sexism?
Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)She was a female manager and for those who knew her, the source of the problem was based on jealousy of the women around her. All the women, not just clerical, but she could target the clerical workers more easily. Even her husband admitted that she hated growing old.
Not to mention, that she was racist. Once she brought a black co-worker a watermelon flavored lifesaver and laughed like he would appreciate a "good" joke. Another time she stepped in to stop the promotion of a long-time female worker because she had a Spanish accent and the female manager claimed that no one would understand her.
She was the first person I met, out of college, where I realized that not everybody wants you to succeed. And I suspect she got away with all of this because she was a woman and people were afraid to touch her because of the sexual harassment laws.
You know, as a young feminist in the eighties I learned quite a bit working on that floor. One thing is to not assume that every woman is going to be your ally and not all men are out to get you fired.
kimbutgar
(21,130 posts)I knew someone like that when I worked in the stock market industry, the women was a VP blonde and very pretty who slept around with partners for her promotion. She would harass and be mean to a lot of the women. For some reason I got along with her and people used to wonder why. Its because I had walked in on her giving one of the firms partners a bj and never told anyone. She was scared I would tell. I told her I would keep my mouth shut because it wasnt my business. She finally got fired because she was having an affair with a major partner and his wife found out and she was let go. After she left I was able to tell my secret. A lot of the other women suspected her antics but didnt have evidence.
Years later I occasionally run into my old co workers and they remind me they were happy I finally told them the truth because they hated her guts. And she made their jobs miserable.
Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)The one thing that this woman's movement hasn't addressed well is the impact that female bosses have on young women who are just starting out. Especially if they get publicly ridiculed, it's going to have a negative impact as they begin to question their own abilities.
spanone
(135,823 posts)malaise
(268,930 posts)that will be a moment to celebrate - I can't wait.
The Blue Flower
(5,442 posts)It will be a global party like we've never seen.
kimbutgar
(21,130 posts)Or at least in front of my house.
gademocrat7
(10,654 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,925 posts)than when "W" flew off in the helicopter after PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA was sworn in!
Drifter
(4,751 posts)swinging. I expect him to (ab)use his power to fullest extent to cling to power.
It will be a constitutional crisis like we have never seen.
I'm not sure who has the authority to arrest the president, but we might just find out.
IT. CAN. NOT. HAPPEN. SOON. ENOUGH.
Cheers
Drifter
global1
(25,241 posts)declare the day a national holiday forever more.
AwakeAtLast
(14,124 posts)They brought in the new Principal at the end of a faculty meeting. We all stood, jumped and clapped for five minutes. In front of her. She deserved it, my stories would fill pages.