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yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 10:40 PM Jan 2018

AL teacher admits telling students to turn the n*gger tunes off after they played Tupac in class



An Alabama high school teacher was placed on paid leave for using a racial slur to complain about music students were playing in class last week.

Students are allowed to listen to music in teacher Teddie Butcher’s food and nutrition class, but they said she complained about a song they’d chosen Friday while working on a project, reported AL.com.

The students were listening to “Dear Mama,” by Tupac, when the white teacher returned to class.

According to multiple witnesses, Butcher told students to “turn the n*gger tunes off.”

Students and their parents complained to Hoover High School administrators, and Butcher admitted to using the slur.

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https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/alabama-teacher-admits-telling-students-turn-ngger-tunes-off-played-tupac-class

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AL teacher admits telling students to turn the n*gger tunes off after they played Tupac in class (Original Post) yuiyoshida Jan 2018 OP
It is amazing that a teacher could be so stupid. CatMor Jan 2018 #1
Forget it, Jake, it's Alabama Brother Buzz Jan 2018 #4
Stupid WestIndianArchie Jan 2018 #6
I consider all racist/white supremacist scumbags stupid CatMor Jan 2018 #8
Oh my God Ohiogal Jan 2018 #2
What's with the paid leave bullshit withoutapaddle Jan 2018 #3
I agree. Fire the racist. rockfordfile Jan 2018 #9
It's a protection most unions put into things Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #13
She admitted it? withoutapaddle Jan 2018 #30
yes, but there's due process Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #33
In no way do I think "Trump's way" withoutapaddle Jan 2018 #35
But you're saying she should be fired before getting the protection and due process she has Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #37
Fair process. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #19
The article states that she ADMITTED to it ConnorMarc Jan 2018 #31
There is little more. That is why she will lose her job and pay. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #38
Have you already forgotten your recent comment on another thread? Tipperary Jan 2018 #54
I wonder if she ever voted for Sessions. nt ProudLib72 Jan 2018 #5
If she is a voter, there is no doubt in my mind she voted for Sessions. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #22
Deplorable and stupid . lunasun Jan 2018 #7
Poor kids were being taught by someone who is stupid enough to use that word out loud... ExciteBike66 Jan 2018 #10
Have you listened to Rap music? The n-word is used over Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #25
That isn't the reason she was suspended, and you know it. Using a racial slur is unacceptable for a still_one Jan 2018 #26
plus the song does not contain the word lunasun Jan 2018 #41
Absolutely, complete racist. I just found the comment Drahthaardogs Jan 2018 #46
I also despise the use of that word still_one Jan 2018 #48
Not sure what the point is here. ExciteBike66 Jan 2018 #27
IT is not used in the song, if she wanted a reason she could have used that drugs are mentioned lunasun Jan 2018 #40
Are you claiming that the poster has made an a** out of me??? ;) ExciteBike66 Jan 2018 #43
NO no just that putting that in the thread on assumptions .... Sorry maybe I used it incorrectly lunasun Jan 2018 #45
I was just kidding, no worries ExciteBike66 Jan 2018 #49
So. What? ConnorMarc Jan 2018 #32
IT is not used once in that song. Only used by .................the teacher. lunasun Jan 2018 #39
Y'all need to understand Hoover a little better. sarah FAILIN Jan 2018 #11
Thank you for that ConnorMarc Jan 2018 #36
You're welcome. sarah FAILIN Jan 2018 #55
We can guess who this troglodyte voted for sunonmars Jan 2018 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2018 #14
I agree tavernier Jan 2018 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2018 #18
"I guess badass behavior has a certain allure for young folks" ExciteBike66 Jan 2018 #28
Calling out racists is not ignorant. Ignoring them IS ignorant. oasis Jan 2018 #17
Good grief! A racist and tasteless at the same time. No wonder the US McCamy Taylor Jan 2018 #15
Hmm..Not sure there's such a thing as 'tasteful' racism whathehell Jan 2018 #29
She looks like a loving educator... IluvPitties Jan 2018 #20
Another day in Trump's America. Initech Jan 2018 #21
This is not about Trump GulfCoast66 Jan 2018 #52
I said that because this is just one of countless stories I've seen since the election. Initech Jan 2018 #53
Lyrics NCTraveler Jan 2018 #23
The irony here is that not only were none of those children alive BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #24
thanks for posting the lyrics you beat me to it. Chipper Chat Jan 2018 #34
She is disgusting! Any day now, she will be appointed to Trump's administation..... FM123 Jan 2018 #42
They are getting bolder. dawg Jan 2018 #44
And then she praised Boushh for capturing 'the mighty Chewbacca.' Aristus Jan 2018 #47
Hoover USED to be the most "liberal" of schools in that state. raven mad Jan 2018 #50
Paid leave? janterry Jan 2018 #51
As talked about elsewhere in the thread Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #56

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
13. It's a protection most unions put into things
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 09:10 AM
Jan 2018

And while we disagree with her on what she did, there are plenty of other teachers accused of things that didn't happen and are given the same protections.

There's a process and it must be worked through. NOT mob mentality justice.

withoutapaddle

(263 posts)
30. She admitted it?
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:37 AM
Jan 2018

I don't see it as "mob justice". She admitted to saying it. Its not a criminal offense, it is offensive enough to lose your job over imho.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
33. yes, but there's due process
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:40 AM
Jan 2018

and whatever rules that the school has in agreement with union that has to be gone through. To not go through the proper procedure opens up the school/district to lawsuits.

Just doing shit on the fly is Trump's way.

withoutapaddle

(263 posts)
35. In no way do I think "Trump's way"
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:50 AM
Jan 2018

She has protection through her union. That's great. Still think she should be fired but it's just my opinion. And trust me, I know my opinion really doesn't matter. Just my votes.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
37. But you're saying she should be fired before getting the protection and due process she has
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 11:01 AM
Jan 2018

Therein lies the problem.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
38. There is little more. That is why she will lose her job and pay.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 11:07 AM
Jan 2018

I expect the union to hold her employer to their contract as best as possible.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
22. If she is a voter, there is no doubt in my mind she voted for Sessions.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 09:59 AM
Jan 2018

It disgusts me to know she will probably be voting for him again soon.

She is probably still upset that Moore lost.

ExciteBike66

(2,297 posts)
10. Poor kids were being taught by someone who is stupid enough to use that word out loud...
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 06:43 AM
Jan 2018

As a parent, I would be asking the school board to be more stringent in their hiring process.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
25. Have you listened to Rap music? The n-word is used over
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:23 AM
Jan 2018

And over and over.

I heard a song my son was playing where the rapper said it about six times in the first minute.

I made my son turn it off, told him it was unacceptable, and told him not to play that garbage in my house. It was NOT okay.

He told me it was okay because it ended with an "a" and not an "r".

Yeah....NO! Turn it off.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
26. That isn't the reason she was suspended, and you know it. Using a racial slur is unacceptable for a
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:31 AM
Jan 2018

teacher

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
46. Absolutely, complete racist. I just found the comment
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 11:48 AM
Jan 2018

"someone dumb enough to use that word" a bit ironic considering Hip hop culture uses the word superfluously.

I hate it. I don't buy the whole "we're taking the word back".

It's crude, it's demeaning, and it's wrong. Much like the word "retard". These are mean nasty words.

ExciteBike66

(2,297 posts)
27. Not sure what the point is here.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:32 AM
Jan 2018

Are you saying that it's ok a for teacher to use the N-word because rappers use it all the time?

Edit: On re-reading, I think you are saying it was ok for her to ask for it to be turned off. I agree with that. It was the way she did it that makes me think she is a bit dumb.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
40. IT is not used in the song, if she wanted a reason she could have used that drugs are mentioned
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 11:10 AM
Jan 2018

The word is not used in the song
the poster is assuming and you know how that works

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
45. NO no just that putting that in the thread on assumptions .... Sorry maybe I used it incorrectly
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 11:48 AM
Jan 2018

The poster just assumed Tupac so must have been because rappers
Plenty in the song you could calmly say is not appropriate for a school setting but it was the teacher that went there to black students

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
11. Y'all need to understand Hoover a little better.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:47 AM
Jan 2018

Hoover High used to have one of the first reality shows. They think they're special. Add that to the fact that the have most likely the biggest tax base in the state from their homes and golf courses to their shopping and they do as they want. Their school is in the news every so often for trying to exclude 'apartment dwellers' children in various ways from rezoning to exclude apartments from their city limits to charging a fee to ride the public school busses and they were talking about eliminating busses all together at one point. Read the link below for a perspective from one of these moms I think is going to shock you..
The whole state has discussed this at points trying to straighten them out, but it's like talking to a wall. Even shaming them with talk of children being hit by cars trying to go to school in those busy and crowded streets did nothing. This teacher will be back as soon as people quit talking about it. Their elitist attitude considered, she will probably be rewarded.

http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/05/letter_from_a_hoover_apartment.html

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
55. You're welcome.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 02:01 PM
Jan 2018

I hate shopping there at all because of this mindset. Most times I go to the mall north of me. I just hate for my tax dollars to go to them.

Response to yuiyoshida (Original post)

tavernier

(12,369 posts)
16. I agree
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 09:29 AM
Jan 2018

On that same token, why do teenagers want to emulate prison inmates? Their mannerisms and speech and clothing?

I guess “badass” behavior has a certain allure for young folks and those who don’t have a strong self image. Sadly, this gives more ammunition to the racists .

Response to tavernier (Reply #16)

ExciteBike66

(2,297 posts)
28. "I guess badass behavior has a certain allure for young folks"
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:34 AM
Jan 2018

Yep, but it has been going on for a very long time.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
15. Good grief! A racist and tasteless at the same time. No wonder the US
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 09:23 AM
Jan 2018

has such a bad rep around the world.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
29. Hmm..Not sure there's such a thing as 'tasteful' racism
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:36 AM
Jan 2018

That said, racism & "tastelessness" are not exclusive to the US.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
52. This is not about Trump
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jan 2018

I have lived in the South for half a century. Nothing shocking to a southerner about what she said. I have heard that exact language used in that exact context countless times. Including in church.

50/50 that she keeps her job.

Initech

(100,038 posts)
53. I said that because this is just one of countless stories I've seen since the election.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jan 2018

Of people spewing hate and bigotry because Trump emboldened the racists, sexists, and haters. Trump is definitely a symptom, the problem is a lot more complex and when / if we get back in power we definitely need to start addressing it.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
23. Lyrics
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:07 AM
Jan 2018

When I was young, me and my mama had beef
Seventeen years old, kicked out on the streets
Though back at the time I never thought I'd see her face
Ain't a woman alive that could take my mama's place
Suspended from school, and scared to go home, I was a fool
With the big boys breakin' all the rules
I shed tears with my baby sister, over the years
We was poorer than the other little kids
And even though we had different daddies, the same drama
When things went wrong we'd blame Mama
I reminisce on the stress I caused, it was hell
Huggin' on my mama from a jail cell
And who'd think in elementary, hey
I'd see the penitentiary one day?
And runnin' from the police, that's right
Mama catch me, put a whoopin' to my backside
And even as a crack fiend, Mama
You always was a black queen, Mama
I finally understand
For a woman it ain't easy tryin' to raise a man
You always was committed
A poor single mother on welfare, tell me how you did it
There's no way I can pay you back, but the plan
Is to show you that I understand: you are appreciated

https://genius.com/2pac-dear-mama-lyrics

BumRushDaShow

(128,475 posts)
24. The irony here is that not only were none of those children alive
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:22 AM
Jan 2018

when the song came out but none had even been born until after Tupac died. I.e., that was a song from their parents' generation.

Chipper Chat

(9,673 posts)
34. thanks for posting the lyrics you beat me to it.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 10:43 AM
Jan 2018

If the teacher had bothered to listen to them she would have realized that she was listening to beautiful poetry.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
50. Hoover USED to be the most "liberal" of schools in that state.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 12:46 PM
Jan 2018

My daughter went there. She'd have called this teacher out, and probably beat the shit out of her.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
56. As talked about elsewhere in the thread
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 02:02 PM
Jan 2018

She has protections through a teacher's union and likely just school/state rules regarding firing of teachers as well.

Protections that most of us would want for ourselves as well.

Let the process play out. Stop demanding heads the minute something goes awry.

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