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NRaleighLiberal

(60,013 posts)
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 02:30 PM Jan 2018

TPM - Josh Marshall - "You Need to Watch This"

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/you-need-to-watch-this

I’ve been watching rightwing media since the late 80s. I’ve been doing it professionally for two decades. Very little surprises me. But last night on a tip I checked out a series of segments on Fox claiming new evidence of a anti-Trump “secret society” at the FBI plotting to overthrow the Trump administration.

Top billing on this went to Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson (R) who said this …

Sen Ron Johnson claims “informant” who has news about the FBI “Secret Society” working to overthrow President Trump. pic.twitter.com/QzGhXBEUYD

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) January 24, 2018

This is simply crazy. This isn’t some caller into CSPAN. This is a United States Senator. Nicole Lafond has more on this “secret society” conspiracy theory here.

But in the process of hunting up that video I stumbled on Lou Dobbs show. Lou’s now on Fox Business Network. I know Dobbs. I remember when he was a semi-normal person years ago on CNN. But I haven’t just watched his show in a long time. Even I found his performance genuinely shocking. He parroted the same new “secret society” talking points, “witch hunt”, “fake news”. But it wasn’t any single point or accusation. It was the whole – the wild claims of coverups and crimes, plotting against the elected President, demands for purges. All of it together combined with the addled and hyped up affect feels like something out of some clownishly ruthless dictatorship. It almost doesn’t seem real even by those standards. Here’s a clip of the first minute or so intro to his show last night.


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last part

Fox Business News has a much smaller audience than Fox News. But this Fox reality is being broadcast out nightly to a big cross-section of the population. We’ve all been talking for years about how Fox is making a big chunk of the population paranoid and out of touch with the reality based world. But this is something graver and more immediate. If you watch these segments and credit their basic accuracy you would have to think there is basically a coup in the works against an elected President. People who believe that sort of thing do weird and dangerous things.
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UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
2. wow
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 03:22 PM
Jan 2018

I avoid watching lunatic conspiracy promoting whacknuts ... but that freakshow that calls itself FAUX is beyond the pale ....

they are a scary out of their minds bunch .... someone with any real conscience in the FCC should rip their license up

0rganism

(23,933 posts)
3. it won't be long now, the well-armed Trumpers will start killing their neighbors
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 03:29 PM
Jan 2018

it's coming
you can't have an armed 1/3 of the population being told their beloved leader is undermined by a conspiracy supported by another 1/3 of the population and not have incidents. they long ago reached the point of antipathy, now they're moving on to straight-up hatred. i have never seen our country so divided.
if the nation doesn't dump Trump completely by July, there will be bloodshed

sandensea

(21,614 posts)
5. Let the wingnuts try their 'weird and dangerous' things.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 04:07 PM
Jan 2018

They'll quickly find themselves is weird and dangerous jail cells.

Fla Dem

(23,620 posts)
6. You would think FOX would tread a bit cautiously after O'Reilly got George Tiller assassinated.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 04:08 PM
Jan 2018

Putting those people's names and faces on TV, calling them a Deep State Secret Society out to destroy Trumps presidency is like setting a match to a gas soaked rag. If I was them I would sue FOX and Dobbs for putting my life in danger.

Jim__

(14,072 posts)
7. From DU: Ron Johnson Walks Back FBI 'Secret Society' Claim
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 04:31 PM
Jan 2018
Here.

Fox is quoting paranoid republican senators - who admit they don't know what they're talking about.
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