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The full mic.com article here!
The reaction from many on the anti-Trump left has included feelings of confusion and betrayal. Advocates and enemies reached for myriad explanations for how it is that Manning military whistleblower and hero to the anti-fascist left ended up at a right-wing rager.
Is Manning a secret fascist? No, it turns out shes just allowed a trusted confidante to lead her into catastrophe, yet again.
To anyone familiar with key players in right-wing political drama, the attendance list would have set off major red flags. One attendee was Wintrich, a coworker of Fairbanks at the Gateway Pundit and a fake news purveyor. Another was Posobiec, famous for, among other things, advancing the Pizzagate conspiracy theory that led a gunman to a Washington, D.C., pizzeria in search of a fake pedophile ring.
Fairbanks asked the group whether it was alright to bring Manning. They were happy to have her. Mic was told by those in attendance, as well as Mannings campaign staff, that she was never fully briefed on exactly who she would be hanging out with.
To call the attendees of the gala part of the alt-right is a delicate category error. The event was held by the leaders of the alt-lite or new right, a loose coalition of pro-Trump internet celebrities and new media stuntmen who, while avowedly anti-white nationalist, nevertheless advance anti-black, anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant talking points. Mike Cernovich, the partys headlining host, built his reputation as a rape apologist blogger, was once charged with sexual assault and also famously advanced the pizzagate conspiracy theory.
For many on the left watching from home, however, the damage was done. By attending the event at all, Manning set herself up for accusations of co-signing a gala of pseudo-fascists and white supremacists.
Those on the right, on the other hand, were quick to brag about how civil theyd been to Manning, even as her Twitter mentions filled to the brim with transphobic abuse. For those who always considered Manning a traitor, the photos were evidence that she was a pox on progressive politics all along. And for purportedly left-leaning conspiracy theorists, the event became a part of a broader plot.
Fairbanks told Mic shes now wracked with guilt, blaming herself for the damage and for pulling a vulnerable friend past the cameras and straight into a public relations catastrophe.
But perhaps no one was hurt more than Manning. Muslim activist Linda Sarsour, who endorsed Mannings senate campaign, told BuzzFeeds Joe Bernstein that Manning expressed extreme regret to Sarsour for attending the party, and was on the verge of tears. Two individuals close to Manning confirmed to Mic that shes deeply upset that thered be any doubt as to her anti-fascist credibility.
But Mannings new constituency the anarchists, the transgender rights activists, the radically anti-fascist left are unlikely to tolerate any further fraternizing with right-wing provocateurs. No more parties. No more game nights. Wintrich told Mic he wouldnt fault Manning for distancing herself further from them.
Fairbanks told Mic she wanted to make clear was it was never her intention to try to convert Manning to the far right. Indeed, she said she never believed anything of the sort would be possible.
She has more guts and backbone than anyone else I have ever known, Fairbanks said. The left should be proud to have her.
It's a really interesting story about how Chelsea Manning got to where she is, what really led to her time in military prison, and how she's trusted people that she probably shouldn't be. I don't believe for a second that Manning is actually a hidden fascist right-winger. She's not some Peter Thiel Milo Yiannopoulos pet LGBTQ+ for the right to trot out and show just how "tolerant" they really are (hint: they're not). I will say it's possible she's too easily led by people she trusts.
hlthe2b
(102,150 posts)IF she really WERE that gullible, she has no business running for elected office--certainly not to replace a reliable and competent incumbent Democratic Senator.
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)We have seen the tactics of the vomitous opposition in James O'Keefe, Breitbart and others to manufacture situations that can damage or destroy people and organizations that are good.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Who has been working against the Russian involvement. It appears she is being used by people- gullible at best. And thats being very generous.
Salviati
(6,008 posts)But I'm 100% sure she's being used by people who are.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)I mean if it's true that she regrets what happened.
I highly doubt Jill Stein regrets hanging with Putin and Michael Flynn.
Demsrule86
(68,506 posts)She is primarying a sitting Dem with support from Assange.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)her reputation is based on misguided things she did. She was used by Assange and Greenwald to hurt Obama diplomacy.
Initech
(100,043 posts)O'Keefe, Cernovich, and Posobiec are not our friends. I feel like they're setting her up to be a mole. If they got their hands on classified information, they'd be downright dangerous. This cannot be good, and it definitely won't end well.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)It can arguably be a learning experience and should be taken that way.
For instance, now she may realize that primarying a Democrat is what they want.
hlthe2b
(102,150 posts)Given what she has been through, that she has seemingly learned NOTHING is not a minor issue.
We have a good Senator in Ben Cardin--one whose eyes are wide open re: Russian manipulation and tactics. That she wants to primary HIM, tells me all I need to know.
Go live your life, Chelsey. Thanks to President Obama, you will have one, despite your lack of gratitude.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Normally I'd say "nah, she's not dangerous, she won't even make a dent," but I learned my lesson from Trump and his ilk.
This is just the first time I've seen any article talking about regret when it comes to these manipulations. What I'd like to happen from this is for her to run for a smaller seat that's up for grabs (it's mostly a D state but surely someone's retiring). But I fear she's surrounded by sycophants who won't speak their mind about this shit. And there's a hell of a lot more money to be gained from playing victim and running for Senate.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)brush
(53,745 posts)while at the same time being anti-black and anti-Muslim, etc.
What are they, pretzels? How can that even be possible in a human being?
Sounds like bullshit.
And Manning, doesn't seem like she's ready for prime time as a candidatedefinitely needs seasoning.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)I've never heard of Mike Cernovich being called "alt-lite." Nothing in his politics sounds moderate at all. I think he is one of the most transphobic assholes out there. Look up the quotes if you want to be nauseated.
brush
(53,745 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,968 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)She got caught and isnt now crying over it. Dimes to donuts theyre drinking at the same trough. If not, shes a huge idiot, doesnt deserve anyones vote.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)People are on to these types and are calling it out, so there is nowhere to hide now. We see them.
renegade000
(2,301 posts)marble falls
(57,015 posts)JI7
(89,241 posts)And even before this there was no reason to support her other than to hurt the democratic party.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)First by Assange, now by these dweebs. It's like she isn't too bright and has a tendency to make bad decisions.
samnsara
(17,607 posts)....she needs to pick a side and stay with it and then grow in that role....but so far I see no maturity. Certainly not enuff to warrant a senate seat.
Squinch
(50,924 posts)hands. She does not have good judgment.
Too much drama, too many "I never realized"s, too much mishegas.
After the republican shithole is ousted from office, I want to be able to vote for some nice, boring, competent drama-free Democrats.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)But I guess that's too much to ask for.
Squinch
(50,924 posts)4now
(1,596 posts)Lets be smarter this time.
Demsrule86
(68,506 posts)MGKrebs
(8,138 posts)Well that's pretty stupid, but it's also weasel words. Is anyone ever "fully" briefed?
Either she didn't know who they were (hard lesson learned maybe?) or she did know and is now trying to be deceptive.
A bad scene either way.
karynnj
(59,498 posts)the Senate AND is it likely that someone for whom there was not even overwhelming support that she should have her sentence commuted could win election even in blue Maryland if people were unwise enough to give her the nomination?
Note that even among many who thought that after 7 years in prison she should have an unusually long sentence commuted there were many who thought her actions were wrong. Those actions are the ONLY basis I can think of as her credential to be a Senator. Note that she might have had a better case of being considered a whistleblower if she had stopped after putting out the Iraq atrocity videos.
However, she did NOT stop there. She gave wikileaks a huge amount of raw state department cables. By raw, many were random reports - of uncertain validity - that local people gave the embassies. The state department used all that information, information from the embassies themselves and a lot of solid background information to put together a coherent view of each country that was used by the state department, the President and others. Releasing raw, unverified stuff allowed our enemies to do two things - identify some informants and to use embarrassing reports - out of context and sometimes completely not true to harm US diplomacy.
Note that we now have a lot of hindsight and we KNOW that Greenwald and Assange might both have been allied with Russia. What we knew then was the release embarrassed Obama and Clinton. Even years later, wikileaks continued to strategically leak information at a time when it could negatively impact US foreign policy. (ie before Secretary Kerry's first trip to Central and South AMerica - where his history in speaking against the Contras could have made him an unusually successful diplomat - negative accounts relating to spying on some countries in the region.
Though her motivation might have been honorable, she was played by Assange, Greenwald et al. She is lucky to out of jail and because of those state department tapes which she "trusted" Assange and Greenwald to filter things that should not go out, I absolutely do not think ANY Democrat should support her for ANY political office. She showed appalling judgment.
samnsara
(17,607 posts)dlk
(11,523 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)Her or your lying eyes? Ducks quack loudly in her presence.
yardwork
(61,539 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 24, 2018, 07:07 PM - Edit history (1)
It's obvious what's happening. Following is a short list of people and groups who are all behaving with the same goal - to depress support for Democratic candidates, with the effect of allowing insane-right Republicans to be elected. Whether they know it or not, they are funded and scripted by Putin:
Jill Stein
Linda Sarsour
Nina Turner and "Our Revolution"
Random third party candidates with nothing good to say about the Democratic Party
Websites and blogs that promote conspiracy theories such as pizza-gate
Proceed with caution. Don't believe a word they say. Don't vote for them or the candidates they promote.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)It's not about whether to not the action is good or not, but whether or not the end result hurts or harms the most people. Anything that harms Democrats therefore harms more people, in general. It's been a pretty easy moral compass and with a few exceptions here or there (mainly Democrats who fell from grace) it's been accurate as all hell.
yardwork
(61,539 posts)Politics is all about practical impact.
JI7
(89,241 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)for the deception that it is.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,548 posts)or maybe Chelsea just is not very bright..............
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)From depressed and suicidal a year ago to this? We all made the mistake of confusing her being in a vulnerable group with her being virtuous.
She and Assange are two peas in a pod.
Too bad her traitor ass is still not rotting in jail where she was rightly sent.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)of her gender identity, but it turns out she is still the traitorous snake she always was, and now a proven RW troll.
struggle4progress
(118,237 posts)calguy
(5,295 posts)Chelsea Manning is just as dumb as Bradley.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)or shes straight-up dumber than dogshit. Either way, FAIL.
Saviolo
(3,280 posts)I'm a little disappointed some of the responses in this thread that are treating Chelsea as an enemy instead of a victim. But here is a thread that showed up on my twitter feed today that sums up my feelings:
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And for those that can't see Twitter:
mcar
(42,279 posts)If she's that easily led, she should not be running for office at all.
MrsMatt
(1,660 posts)demonstrates impeccable qualities in a potential US senator.
KFC, what a joke. She's a moron.