Bailey Holt. 15. Say her name NRA.

[sheshe2]

"Steven Cohn
13 hrs

This is Bailey Holt. Yesterday, she went to high school for a normal day and was gunned down. Look at her....GOD DAMMIT LOOK AT HER! Her name was Bailey Holt.

Stare at this fucking picture of a perfectly innocent, perfectly great 15 year old who was doing everything right and was murdered for no reason...when you are done, when you can’t take any more, reply to this post and tell me that there is nothing that we can do to stop the gun violence in our country. Please tell me. Because this enrages me. This could be your daughter. Your sister.

A 15-year old, white male (and yes most mass shootings are done by white males) killed 2 and wounded 19 yesterday.

There have been 11 school shootings in 2018. Fucking 11 shootings at a school in 23 days. That is way beyond unacceptable. That is a national crisis. The assholes in Washington are playing political games over a stupid fucking budget and our babies are being murdered. This is an outrage. Look at that picture!! Her name was Bailey Holt." (RA)

FB https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155284750404607&set=a.10150245194309607.324474.664824606&type=3&theater

Say her name NRA. Say her NAME! Dear Goddess, she looks like my niece.

[Turbineguy]

1. Somebody's wonderful

Daughter

[sheshe2]

2. She is so alive there.

So much to live for. A future.

Tears.

[Marie Marie]

3. Sigh.

I am out of words, and this will never end.

[sheshe2]

12. Me too, Marie.

No words.

[MustLoveBeagles]

4. They need to own this, but they won't

[NutmegYankee]

5. Is it just me or this this not getting attention?

I’ve hardly seen any news on this.

[sheshe2]

10. Our dear President never commented.

Yet Trudeau sent his condolences to those we lost. What does that tell you? Our President gives not one shit!

Speaks volumes.

[Dulcinea]

89. He doesn't care.

It's not about him, nor can he make it about him.

Every time I see one of these tragedies, I hug my own daughters extra tightly. They're 16 & 14.

[whathehell]

53. It's not you...It's not getting enough attention.

I almost wonder if this everyday slaughter is something we're now supposed to simply "accept" as part of our wonderful 2nd Amendment Freedom

Such acceptance would make the Gun Lobby's job easier, wouldn't it?

[dsc]

6. You say 11 shootings in 23 days

but it is even worse than that. Most schools get both 1 and 15 January off plus there were 6 weekend days so it is actually 11 shootings in 15 days.

[sheshe2]

13. I am without words.

I cry.

And the pResident is silent. NOT ONE WORD!

[Eliot Rosewater]

77. NRA has committed treason using russian money to help the chief traitor so no

surprise the chief traitor doesnt say a word the same way, if you notice, he NEVER mentions Rachel Maddow

He is scared SHITLESS of her

[sheshe2]

78. Well he should be scared of Rachel.

She could take him in a NY minute.

[mainstreetonce]

7. I can't seem to find out

How the shooter got the gun

Whoever supplied it s guilty of murder.

[Hoyt]

30. My bet, daddy proudly introduced him to gun culture.

[mainstreetonce]

58. Why would anyone give a child a handgun?

I know That people who value guns give kids shotguns and hunting rifles, but a handgun?


Giving that to a child should be a crime.

If he stole it,someone is responsible for not securing it.

The punishment should be very severe. The careless gun owner is responsible for the deaths.

[Hoyt]

59. Hey, who can explain the behavior of gun-stroking parents. Kids have access to dad's gun cache.

?itok=-h2JFQNf

[mainstreetonce]

60. Well when the punishment is

They are charged for the murders committed with their guns
and never allowed to legally own a gun again, maybe they will learn that guns are not safe for children.

[Hoyt]

61. We can only hope.

[billh58]

69. What a good little future

white supremacist, "Second Amendment Solution" Nazi. The KKK indoctrinates their young in a similar manner.

[shenmue]

8. She is beautiful!

[MissB]

9. She was.

Full of life and happy. How utterly heartbreaking

[sheshe2]

11. Yes she was.

So full of life in that picture, shenmue.

[Fred Sanders]

14. National Russian Agents. NRA is the definition of evil. Where does the constitution protect evil?

[sheshe2]

16. "National Russian Agents. NRA is the definition of evil."

Exactly, Fred.

"Where does the constitution protect evil?"

Sadly they tossed that playbook in the trash a long long time ago.

The day the music died.

[smirkymonkey]

15. What a lovely young girl! Why are we not hearing more of this in the MSM?

Why has our president not acknowledged this horrific crime? This upsets me so much because I have a few nieces around her age. I would be destroyed if something like this happened to one of them, as I am sure her family is destroyed by what happened to her. Why can't people see how fucking destructive and stupid our lax gun laws are? What the fuck is it going to take before we wake up and start enacting some reasonable regulations?

[sheshe2]

17. Breaks my heart, smirk.

I do not have the answers why.

What I do know? Our pResident has said nothing, not one word. NOT ONE WORD!

Yet Trudeau offered his condolences. Speaks volumes doesn't it.

[Fred Sanders]

19. Huck Sanders had t and p. Took the 13th school shooting THIS year for that insincere muttering.

[smirkymonkey]

22. Yes it does sheshe2. It's sad and embarrassing that he can't even offer his condolences

to the families of these murdered children. How heartless can you be? What the fuck is wrong with him?

He is just evil! Trudeau is a real man and our president is such a worm by comparison.

[SunSeeker]

18. K & R for exposure.

[sheshe2]

20. Thank you my friend.

For Bailey and all the victims of gun violence. We are going to run out of ink posting their names.

This one is for Bailey.

[madamesilverspurs]

21. Horrifying.

.

[sheshe2]

26. Shoot our kids and the pResident is silent.

This one wasn't.

[lastlib]

23. Kicked and HIGHLY Recommended!

So sorry we have failed you, Bailey!

. . . . . . .

[sheshe2]

27. I am crying, lastlib.

[keithbvadu2]

24. Thoughts and prayers from the NRA

Thoughts and prayers from the NRA
.

[onecaliberal]

91. You beat me to it.

[raging moderate]

25. Also killed: a boy named Preston Ryan Cope.

Bailey Nicole Holt and Preston Ryan Cope. Two wonderful young people who should still be bouncing around, full of life.

[sheshe2]

28. Preston Cope.

[withoutapaddle]

29. knr

Rest in peace young Bailey. What a beautiful child.

When the press does not cover shootings in our schools, and the "president" can't even acknowledge a tragedy like this... I have no more words.

[Initech]

31. The NRA has got to go. They are a terrorist organization.

We need to start saying it - these are not just mere shootings, they are acts of fucking terror. And there is one organization in this country that is allowing and enabling it - the NRA. They have got to go.

[sheshe2]

33. i agree with everything you said.

Yet, one correction. There are two organizations. NRA, yes...also the GOP.

[Initech]

38. The NRA wouldn't exist without the GOP and vice versa.

It's a perpetual shit machine.

[RainCaster]

54. The NRA would not exist without Russia

Apparently alot of funding came to the NRA from Russia. Isn't that nice the Russia (where guns are heavily regulated) had been sending loads of money to help the NRA be so patriotic?

[sheshe2]

87. Yep.

[erronis]

86. Let's be careful about what other channels the putinesque's and anti-gov oligarchs will use

The NRA and the GOP were convenient and easy to corrupt (didn't take much to make them go deeper into the sewer).

Where do you think those counterfeit US dollars will end up next? How many lobbyists could fit on the head of a pin?

Third-party candidates (not naming anyone here)?

Alternates to platform Dems? (I'm a Bernie supporter, for the record.)

New news channels including blogs? Takeover of respected ones?

Like pharma and other special interests - low-cost trips to visit exotic venues (St. Petersburgh USSR, a nice dacha in Sochi, or a weekend on the links with the possibility of dump showing up)?

A visit by a very beautiful person to your own house, unannounced, but knowing that you are alone?

[MontanaMama]

36. Yes. They. Do.

Criminals. Murderers. Traitors.

[MontanaMama]

32. JFC.

We have let you down Bailey. You too Preston. I'm so sorry. I feel sick seeing this. I have a 12 year old son who keep his phone in his pocket against school rules because he is afraid that someone will shoot up his school and his phone will be his only life line. I let him do it because I am afraid too. Why can't we do better? Good grief.

[sheshe2]

35. My heart to you and your son, MountainMama.

Safe. May he stay safe. So sad that you both need to even worry about this, yet you do.

We are one sad world these days.

[caballojm]

34. Noam Chomsky: "Republican Party is the most dangerous organization in human history"

[Orrex]

63. When did he say that?

He's obviously correct, but I'm curious whether he said it recently or in response to some previous GOP attack on humanity.

[caballojm]

105. This was spring of 2017

[link:https://ind.pn/2pFOeAf|

[Orrex]

107. Thanks! (nt)

[grantcart]

104. Really? Nazis, KKK, Imperial Japanese Army, I could go on.

[sharedvalues]

37. Ban handguns. Ban semiautomatics. Allow hunting rifles only.

Ban semiautomatic weapons.

We should stop at nothing less. These guns are what kill people. The GOP is complicit in these deaths.

Handgun ban. Semiautomatic ban. Allow hunting rifles only.

[Initech]

40. Close all the loopholes too that allow weapons buyers to bypass traditional means.

Shut it all down right now, this is out of control.

[sharedvalues]

41. Yes that too. A ban with teeth.

[Solly Mack]

39. To put it mildly

People seriously suck.

She looks like she was having fun and enjoying her life. Appears to have been a special day and she looks very pretty. All her dreams...gone. All her hopes..gone. All her potential...gone.

Snuffed out.

The dreams those who loved her had for her...all gone.

You look at your child and you think...may they get everything they want in life. May they be happy. Hope they attend college. Find someone to love and grow old together.

No one should have to add to their list of hopes that their child isn't murdered while at school.

[sharedvalues]

42. Not all people who suck, just gun lobbyists and their GOP allies

who use gun identity politics to get votes.

[Solly Mack]

43. They go beyond mere suckage.

But, true, not all people suck.

[sheshe2]

44. Yes, Solly.

Looked like she was enjoying life. Her right to live died when she went to school. How fucked up is that?

My heart breaks.

[Solly Mack]

45. I sometimes feel as if I'm shutting down there has been so much gun violence at schools

(and everywhere else).

That my mind simply can't take anymore death. I seldom respond anymore to news of yet another school shooting, or other shootings. Not because I don't have feelings but because it gets to be overwhelming. But that photo...her happiness comes through. It got to me.

And I know I'm not alone in feeling that way.

[sheshe2]

46. The photo stunned me.

She looks so much like my niece by marriage. Stopped me cold. She is a teacher as is my nephew. I worry about them as well. Yes, I too am overwhelmed, Solly.

You are not alone.

[Oldtimeralso]

50. NRA Nothing Rational Allowed

Bailey is beautiful, she reminds me of my high school girlfriend (most people would say that was back in the stone age). Back then we used fists to settle beefs' If you brought out a bat or knife every one made fun of your masculinity.

RIP and speedy recovery to all the victims including those mentally wounded.

[sheshe2]

52. Yes.

RIP

It is all the comfort that we can give them anymore and it is nowhere near enough. I cry.

[Rainbow Droid]

47. No, you aren't alone in feeling that way.

[brer cat]

79. You are not alone.

But maybe that is what the NRA wants. When those who care shut down who will speak out?

[smirkymonkey]

82. No, you are not alone Solly.

There is a point at which you simply can't take in anymore tragedy. It's too painful and overwhelming. I think it is the psyche's way of protecting itself. Sometimes I see these horrific OP's and I don't even click on them because I just can't take anymore. It's how we protect ourselves from going completely mad.

[sheshe2]

100. Hey Solly.

I read tonight on FB...she called her mom while it was happening. All her mom could here was loud noise. She kept calling her daughters name and she never answered. She couldn't.

I am heartbroken for them all. How does one live with that.

[Solly Mack]

106. Unimaginable horror.

Stuns me.

[certainot]

48. these 88 universities keep NRA radio going

it is really fucking stupid that many of our universities and colleges continue to endorse the loudest NRA radio stations in the country

sports used to be broadcast on general stations and then in 87 reagan killed the fairness doctrine and they eventually put limbaugh on 600 stations.

and at least 270 of those stations depend on 88 major universities to keep broadcasting sports on them. so those unis support the NRA on 270 of the loudest radio stations in the country.

that is why there is no action here. as soon as protestors show up at radio stations or the unis that support them, everything changes

[RainCaster]

49. ITS TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT

Damn right it's time to talk about the Russian sponsored NRA.

[GallopingGhost]

51. .

[Hugin]

55. ...

How many times do we need to hold a candle.

[JI7]

56. meanwhile the issue being talked about is a fucking wall

[sheshe2]

57. Yup.

Let's keep those, so said by the prezzie "brown murderers" out of here...oh wait all 11 school shootings in the past 23 days were white! Then we here crickets from the so called prezzie.

Fugger!

[malaise]

62. Fifteen year old Preston Cope was also slaughtered

The NRA should also say his name

[sheshe2]

64. Agreed. nt

[smirkymonkey]

85. Poor kid. His family must be devastated. It tragic to hear of anyone's death by

gun violence, but it's especially tragic to hear of children who are victims - who have so much of life ahead of them - and have that life cut short by some psycho with a fucking gun. God, I hate the NRA!

[keithbvadu2]

93. Acceptable collateral damage for gun industry profits.

Acceptable collateral damage for gun industry profits.

[malaise]

95. I hate them

hate them hate them hate them.

[R B Garr]

65. RIP, Bailey

[BobTheSubgenius]

66. NRA???

Burn the f'ing place to the ground!!!

Do it for Bailey Holt, the Holt family, and every other victim and their families.

[Sancho]

67. People Control, Not Gun Control

This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70’s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that weren’t secured are out of control in our society. As such, here’s what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. I’m not debating the legal language, I just think it’s the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because it’s clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learner’s license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driver’s license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

For those who want to argue legality, please reference: The Second Amendment: A Biography by Michael Waldman

[sheshe2]

74. Thank you, Sancho.

Very reasonable guidelines to implement and inforce for greater safety. No sane person would disagree, which tells you a lot about the GOP and NRA types.

[geardaddy]

68. K & R

I'm so sick and tired of gun humpers.

[B Stieg]

70. They don't have the guts...

or the humanity.

Fuck the NRA.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

71. NRA says it is too soon to talk about gun control after 20 kids killed at Sandy Hook 5 years ago.

But not too soon for the NRA to party at Donald Trump's White House on the 5th anniversary of the shooting.

[VOX]

96. And far-right assholes believe it was staged by the dark forces that want to neuter armaments-freaks

And I damn well wish that we had a government— and a citizenry— that realized firearms are a fucking public health menace that affects EVERYONE, as sure as any deadly virus.

[lark]

72. The Russian NRA doesn't give a shit, she's not real to them.

They don't care one bit how many die, they want more guns and more profits and if more people die, they are 100% ok with it.

[Volaris]

73. Somebody more skilled than I

Should project a list of all the names of the gun violence victims from last year onto their building.
Think their headquarters is large enough? I dont. You'd have to run them as a video crawl and just leave it on for a month...
WELL REGULATED, my ass.

[sheshe2]

76. Great idea...

Yet you are right. The building is not big enough for all the victims.

WELL REGULATED, my ass.

^^THIS^^

[denbot]

75. K&R

Fuck the NRA

[MLAA]

80. Bailey Holt. Her face was filled with joy in this picture. Innocent joy.

[jmowreader]

81. I'm going to sidetrack this a little

While sheshe was posting this, I was printing letters to the editor from hard-right people whining about legalized abortion. OMG they are so heartbroken about all the "murdered babies." We have got to do something about the "murdered babies."

Yes, we do. We need to get the fucking gun problem under control. Because Bailey Holt and Preston Cope were someone's babies. Twenty-six people at Sandy Hook Elementary School were someone's babies. Thirteen people at Columbine High School. And they're all fucking dead. Because of guns.

[sheshe2]

101. Thank you for this.

I just don't have any words left to respond further.

[samir.g]

83. Can they see this down in the gungeon?

They need to.

[Ilsa]

84. Not even 23 days. Deduct weekends and Winter holiday.

Probably more like 15-18 days. Probably deduct 4 days for weekends. May or may not have had school on MLK Day.

[Blue_Tires]

88. The NRA's PR offensive continues

They have one of their lackeys on SiriusXM Urban lecturing us on why all of Black America needs to join the NRA and arm ourselves

[linuxman]

90. What, precisely did the NRA do to cause this? Please be specific and avoid boilerplate buzzwords

[sheshe2]

94. If you have no clue...

Then it is a waste of my time to explain.

[linuxman]

98. Oh, I've heard the generalities.

I was hoping you had something specific.

Oh well.

[sheshe2]

99. Generalities?

Oh well.

[linuxman]

102. Glad you agree.

[sheshe2]

103. No

[Butterflylady]

92. I have no words, only tears.

[VOX]

97. Melt them ALL down, and create undersea habitats from the steel.

That would not only make the U.S. far safer, but could also offset some of the damage that man has done to coastal and offshore wildlife.

Plus, it would fry the back-hair on every knuckle-dragging idiot who feels compelled to feed their addiction by buying 25-50+ weapons: no more cold blue steel to fondle, and the remnants went to an ENVIRONMENTAL cause.