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Fri Jan 26, 2018, 11:18 AM

If Trump were to have Mueller fired

what would happen? I keep reading about this action provoking a "constitutional crisis," but I don't understand how that works. I know that getting rid of Mueller doesn't get rid of the investigation, but how is that a line Trump wouldn't dare to cross? Does anyone think the repubs in congress would do anything about it? I don't.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 11:29 AM

1. in terms of the investigation, mueller would be replaced with someone who would end it quickly.

there's no reason to fire mueller unless donnie can replace him with someone who will shut it down. no sense in obstructing justice half way, right? so, while technically, firing mueller doesn't end the investigation, as a practical matter, it would shut it down quickly.

more precisely, if it didn't, donnie would simply repeat the process until it was shut down.


the media and the public would go ape and there would be a ton of comparisons to the nail in nixon's coffin. donnie's approval ratings would take another well-deserved hit.

then republicans in congress would look at the polls. if republican voters in their states/districts remain behind donnie, then little would change, although democrats would be even more energized to vote in november.

on the other hand, if republicans leave the party faster, or say they can't abide donnie any more, then republicans in congress might finally recognize that they need donnie gone.

if that happens, they'll quietly convince donnie to declare victory and resign. they'll never impeach him.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 11:48 AM

2. Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell would call it "unfortunate".

Perhaps one of them would make a "tsk, tsk" sound.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 12:30 PM

3. The first time the House Judiciary committee considered impeachment: week of the Sat. Night Massacre

Western Union broke all records with telegrams to Congress calling for Nixon's impeachment that Sunday. By the end of the week, the House Judiciary Committee was in high gear on it. Note that it would be about nine months later that articles of impeachment were approved by that committee and sent to the House floor. In the end, Nixon realized that his presidency was doomed. He resigned. But it took a SCOTUS decision and the release of that one tape to bring him down. Nixon was never impeached.

It is important to remember these historic facts. The pacing of events are particularly important.

Firing Mueller would bring about a chorus of calls for impeachment, just like on October 20, 1973. But like in 1973, these things take time.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Fri Jan 26, 2018, 12:31 PM

4. trump might have gotten away with it in June, now it's too late. Too much

much is known now.

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