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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 01:47 AM Jan 2018

David Gergen on CNN said today "for the first time, wind is now at Trump's back"

That's per Twitter. One of the posters had an excellent response that the SOTU normalization attempt for Trump by the media has already begun. It's interesting why the media, at every turn, tries to normalize Trump. Someone also excellently said that it's like the media are parents to toddler Trump and desperately want him to show them that they didn't screw up by fixing the election in his favour in 2016!

P.S.: I guess a strong obstruction of justice case being readied against you and Russian collusion almost assuredly about to be proved by Special Council Mueller slipped Gergen's mind.

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David Gergen on CNN said today "for the first time, wind is now at Trump's back" (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Jan 2018 OP
That's what my wife says when I have too many tacos RainCaster Jan 2018 #1
lol! Cha Jan 2018 #6
How can he think that? The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #2
Exactly, there's no basis for Gergen to think this NewsCenter28 Jan 2018 #5
Trump got fellated by the rich folks at Davos The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #8
Every major economy in the world doing well, helps incumbents Cicada Jan 2018 #12
Gergen in a shill triron Jan 2018 #3
Ex-Zactly! Cha Jan 2018 #7
Gergen is traditionally all over the map SHRED Jan 2018 #4
With any luck, it'll blow him right out of office... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #9
The same Gergen, who, last speech to Congress.. Adenoid_Hynkel Jan 2018 #10
That was Van Jones JI7 Jan 2018 #13
Gergen, too, IIRC. dchill Jan 2018 #16
Yes, I think it's true.. Cha Jan 2018 #11
Gergen is gargling nonsense....he is so dinosaur that dinosaurs are laughing.. pbmus Jan 2018 #14
Gergen is a clown melman Jan 2018 #15
I told my wife today... Baconator Jan 2018 #17
The wind came from the nachos. snort Jan 2018 #18
Blowing him towards the White House exit gate. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2018 #19
Did he blow ass? MFM008 Jan 2018 #20
Sad to say, I agree with him... regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #21
I agree. I think Trump will get a significant bump from the STOU providing doc03 Jan 2018 #23
Because Trump can read a speech written for him? DeminPennswoods Jan 2018 #22
Trump's Wind All Comes from His Backside! MineralMan Jan 2018 #24
David Gergen is apparently still alive . . . . hatrack Jan 2018 #25
Gergen and the rest of the circus clowns will fawn all over Dufus mac56 Jan 2018 #26
So Gergen is saying that Trump is no longer trying to sniff his own farts - The most beautiful farts TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #27
You can train a seal to sit on the side of the pool for an hour and behave itself, David Frum. Hoyt Jan 2018 #28
That's not the wind -- it's Mueller's hot breath blowing on his neck. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2018 #29

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,656 posts)
2. How can he think that?
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 01:53 AM
Jan 2018

I suppose it's because of the stock market but totally disregards the fact that the "president" is being investigated for obstruction of justice and money laundering. Nixon had the wind at his back for awhile, too, before the Saturday Night Massacre. Gergen should know that; he worked for Nixon.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
5. Exactly, there's no basis for Gergen to think this
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 01:55 AM
Jan 2018

Someone said that someone must have been spinning him pretty hard in Davos (he went to Davos with Drumpf apparently).

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,656 posts)
8. Trump got fellated by the rich folks at Davos
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 02:06 AM
Jan 2018

who want something from him, and they probably laughed at him behind his back. The "wind at his back" was all that laughter, but Gergen apparently thinks the insincere flattery of the financial elite means something.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
12. Every major economy in the world doing well, helps incumbents
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 02:18 AM
Jan 2018

Millions will get tax cuts (the drag from paying back the money borrowed to finance it will come later), and the whole world economy doing good. Gergen may be right. But in 2017 dem vote in 60 special elections ran 9 points higher than Hillary. That’s a huge trade wind behind us.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
10. The same Gergen, who, last speech to Congress..
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 02:10 AM
Jan 2018

Said "Trump became president tonight."

And the 32 percent approval of the past year totally proved it, eh, Dave?

Cha

(297,026 posts)
11. Yes, I think it's true..
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 02:13 AM
Jan 2018

"It's interesting why the media, at every turn, tries to normalize Trump. Someone also excellently said that it's like the media are parents to toddler Trump and desperately want him to show them that they didn't screw up by fixing the election in his favour in 2016!"

The US media pumped up bush and cheney and got us the War on Iraq until they couldn't coverup the bodies anymore.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
15. Gergen is a clown
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 03:12 AM
Jan 2018

Always has been.

btw, remember the thread a couple months back where certain people were saying how wise Gergen is, and how he's 'demonstrated good judgement and sense for over 50 years' etc etc? lolol.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
17. I told my wife today...
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 03:29 AM
Jan 2018

This is the first thing I've seen from them that doesn't look like it wasn't scribbled on the back of a cocktail napkin...

They are beating us over the head with DACA because we've made it clear that is what is most important to us.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
19. Blowing him towards the White House exit gate.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 04:09 AM
Jan 2018

I'm huffing and puffing to help him along....

It's actually the sweet smelling wind of justice.


regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
21. Sad to say, I agree with him...
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 06:38 AM
Jan 2018

It was one thing when Donnie was an asshole who couldn't get anything done. The tax bill and repeal of net neutrality changed all that. Sure, they're both "accomplishments" most people hated but, as the old song goes, "nothing succeeds like success," and even taking on the semblance of effectiveness is going to boost his image significantly. As he surely knows, "everybody loves a winner"...or, if they don't exactly love him, they at least don't have contempt for him anymore.

But the biggest thing giving him the momentum is the absolute hash we made of last weekend's shutdown. It gave Trump and the G.O.P. a major victory (even anti-Trump journalists were writing about him and his party "dancing in the endzone" after we backed down). Now, in order to save DACA, we're going to have to go hat-in-hand to the White House and accept any terms he lays down (including his border wall and a 50% cut in legal immigration) or else see the Dreamers deported. The first option will give him massive credit, the second will earn us massive blame. Heads, he wins; tails, we lose.

So, yes, I see DJT on the upswing right now. Of course, he might find a way to screw things up again (but tweets and other examples of outrageous personal behavior won't do it...his antics have become normalized), but, as it is now, I'd expect his popularity to climb over the next few weeks/months; not enough to actually make him popular, but enough to narrow the gap so that he won't be a irreversible drag on his party in the midterms. And, from then on...? But he couldn't have done it without our help...


doc03

(35,320 posts)
23. I agree. I think Trump will get a significant bump from the STOU providing
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:10 AM
Jan 2018

he stays on script. He will take credit for the records on Wall Street, unemployment is at record lows and people will see an
increase in their take home pay. I will see about $1000 myself. We know it was a raid on the treasury and he inherited a good economy
but unlike us a good portion of America is more concerned about who wins the Super Bowl than politics. Besides that the MSN is big business and that is who all this benefits. I am not jumping on any band wagon about any "Blue Wave". I remember 2016 when
all I heard was people dancing in the end zone before that election.

DeminPennswoods

(15,270 posts)
22. Because Trump can read a speech written for him?
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 07:00 AM
Jan 2018

Is this because Trump can read a speech off a teleprompter relatively error-free? We all know by now that even if Trump successfully reads another speech written for him by whoever, he will step on whatever the "message" was within 24 hours. We all know there won't be a "pivot" to "presidential" behavior. It's not who Trump is, but David Gergan can keep living in his own world.

And wait until the viewing audience, most of whom will be seeing him for the first time, swoons over Joe Kennedy III. You know Chris Matthews, who just wrote a book on RFK, JK III's grandfather, and adores all things Kennedy, will be praising him no end. This will send Trump on a rampage of jealousy and envy.

mac56

(17,566 posts)
26. Gergen and the rest of the circus clowns will fawn all over Dufus
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:40 AM
Jan 2018

if he manages to not piss himself behind the podium.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
28. You can train a seal to sit on the side of the pool for an hour and behave itself, David Frum.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:12 AM
Jan 2018

Fortunately, other commentators say things like the above.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210156406

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