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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 07:43 AM Jan 2018

Prediction: The Nunes memo comes out. Trump and co. say it shows Rosenstein must be fired

Trump fires Rosenstein - the Republicans in Congress back him up. They are able to sell the idea that Rosenstein overstepped his authority. He is replaced by a Trump lackey. The Trump lackey fires Mueller - ending the investigation. The Republicans roll over.

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Prediction: The Nunes memo comes out. Trump and co. say it shows Rosenstein must be fired (Original Post) oberliner Jan 2018 OP
The memo has been discredited...won't happen. The GOP wants no part of the 'memo'. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #1
Really? oberliner Jan 2018 #2
Yes really. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #5
I hate to say it but I think Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #30
Geebus... Someone put something really dark in your tea this morning... hlthe2b Jan 2018 #3
Listening to Joe Scarborough on the radio oberliner Jan 2018 #4
That is one guy...if it would have helped, it would be released by now. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #6
I said this the other day! imanamerican63 Jan 2018 #8
Thanks! Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #11
It does appear that it will be released imminently. oberliner Feb 2018 #22
That IS the game plan lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #26
nunes mstinamotorcity2 Jan 2018 #7
Ryan is the puppet master. Nunes is the puppet. Mr. Ected Jan 2018 #10
I mstinamotorcity2 Jan 2018 #12
Jail time for Nunes and Ryan: both are obstructing justice. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #20
Are there any sane Republicans on the committee who will vote against Nunes?? Vinca Jan 2018 #9
Reads like right wing talking points from here. Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #13
Would they make it public before they show it to the FBI and the Justice Dept? kentuck Jan 2018 #14
Prediction: Nunes will never release the memo. FSogol Jan 2018 #15
Seems like it is about to be released oberliner Feb 2018 #23
It's a proud day when a spurious guess is not entirely incorrect. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #29
LOL. Gotta love the gloating about the GOP successes. FSogol Feb 2018 #33
It's a little ridiculous to call this a GOP success oberliner Feb 2018 #35
Thanks! oberliner Feb 2018 #34
Then the GOP is even more desperate than I believed. That speaks well for Mueller's case. n/t FSogol Feb 2018 #32
Agreed oberliner Feb 2018 #36
That's what Trump, Nunes, Ryan were hoping for, but their scheme has been exposed wishstar Jan 2018 #16
The memo is more valuable in concept than content. CincyDem Jan 2018 #17
I predict the same as well.. SummerSnow Jan 2018 #18
I think the memo is going to be a giant nothing burger. Initech Jan 2018 #19
We shall soon find out oberliner Jan 2018 #21
This is what I'm thinking. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #24
Wow. More embedded right wing talking points. Kingofalldems Feb 2018 #25
It's crazy oberliner Feb 2018 #40
Not what I was referring to. Kingofalldems Feb 2018 #41
Every day. Stinky The Clown Feb 2018 #42
Yep. Kingofalldems Feb 2018 #43
Infantile Trump wants to steal ratings from the NFL C_U_L8R Feb 2018 #27
They want to force Wray to resign. He wants to install AJT Feb 2018 #28
Gowdy??? Sophia4 Feb 2018 #39
Please see my post here. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #31
I agree with the last sentence of that linked post oberliner Feb 2018 #37
Right. We need a united response by Democrats and even if possible, Sophia4 Feb 2018 #38

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
30. I hate to say it but I think
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 01:21 PM
Feb 2018

I think that is exactly what is going to happen, Rosenstein during the super bowl is fired and Mueller the next day and I dont think there is jack we can do about it.

Now some folks are HAPPY about this, of course. But you and I are not and I wanted to talk to you about it.

I know this will happen, what I now want to know is what does the country do about it? When Mueller is fired the guy running the show will pull the funds for the team thus destroying the investigation.

I hate that this is gonna happen.

The memo could say "roses are red, violets are blue, Rosenstein misbehaved" and nothing else and it will be used as an excuse.

We are assuming the WH or nunes or whatever will use logic or reason, they wont. They are going to do this. And I am REALLY pissed at people who bad mouthed HILLARY

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
6. That is one guy...if it would have helped, it would be released by now.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 08:38 AM
Jan 2018

Nunes could find himself in hot water due to the fact he stole classified info.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
10. Ryan is the puppet master. Nunes is the puppet.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 08:50 AM
Jan 2018

We've judged this all wrong. We've watched Nunes flailing about and he makes a great target for our ire.

Make no mistake, Paul Ryan is the head of the snake here. Nunes has followed his orders. Remember where Nunes went before that crazy press conference at the White House? That's right: to Paul Ryan's office.

They both need to go down as co-conspirators. The rot in the GOP is extensive and starts at the top.

Vinca

(50,248 posts)
9. Are there any sane Republicans on the committee who will vote against Nunes??
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 08:48 AM
Jan 2018

Mueller must be looking at Nunes as part of the conspiracy. It seems pretty clear he's up-to-his-neck involved.

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
14. Would they make it public before they show it to the FBI and the Justice Dept?
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 09:10 AM
Jan 2018

Up to now, they have refused to let the Justice Dept see it, by saying it is "separation of powers"? But how could it be separation of powers if they are all in the Executive Branch??

FSogol

(45,464 posts)
15. Prediction: Nunes will never release the memo.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 09:24 AM
Jan 2018

1. It serves it purpose fomenting uncertainty about the FBI and the charges against Tumpy with his dopey RW followers

and

2. If released would quickly be laughed at and picked apart like other deep state and secret society RW fantasies.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. It's a proud day when a spurious guess is not entirely incorrect.
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 01:20 PM
Feb 2018

It's a proud day when a spurious guess is not entirely incorrect.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
35. It's a little ridiculous to call this a GOP success
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 02:14 PM
Feb 2018

Personally, I think it helps show what a failure they are as a political party.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
34. Thanks!
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 02:13 PM
Feb 2018

I've had so many incorrect predictions over the years - it's a relief to get one right now and then!

Edit to add: There is no underestimating the awfulness of today's Republicans!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
36. Agreed
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 02:15 PM
Feb 2018

I think they are truly pathetic - that's why I was relatively confident in my prediction in the first place.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
16. That's what Trump, Nunes, Ryan were hoping for, but their scheme has been exposed
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 09:34 AM
Jan 2018

The leaking of the stories started last Thursday that will prevent their corrupt scheme from playing out as you predicted, since we now know that Trump ordered the undermining of FBI and Justice Dept officials not long after Trump ordered Mueller's firing. Although the Mueller firing didn't occur, the smearing of Comey, McCabe, Mueller's team and Peter Strzok (who was one of the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn) has occurred. Now Rosenstein is the target and Trump has urged the memo to be released that would give him a phony case to fire Rosenstein, similar to phony case Trump made against Comey and phony case he wanted to make against Mueller. Everything is strengthening the case for Trump obstructing justice.

This Nunes memo is clearly discredited by the fact that original warrant against Carter Page occurred because he was under FBI surveillance long before the Steele dossier or the Trump campaign, because of his contacts with Russian operatives, so Rosenstein wasn't conducting politicized surveillance of Trump campaign staff.

CincyDem

(6,346 posts)
17. The memo is more valuable in concept than content.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 09:45 AM
Jan 2018

It’ll never be released by the republicans. May see the light of day by the Dems but it’s much more valuable to republicans as a boggie man hiding in the closet than it would be in the public domain.

This is just a tool to stoke fear among the faithful cult of trump followers.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
18. I predict the same as well..
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:18 AM
Jan 2018

He is afraid to directly fire Mueller, so he will indirectly fire Mueller by firing Rosenstein

Initech

(100,054 posts)
19. I think the memo is going to be a giant nothing burger.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:30 AM
Jan 2018

I'm calling their bluff. All cards are on the table.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
40. It's crazy
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 02:41 PM
Feb 2018

Their playbook is so obvious - and they don't even pretend otherwise.

I keep thinking maybe some Republican will actually stand up to Trump and company but it never materializes.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
31. Please see my post here.
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 01:23 PM
Feb 2018
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210178835

I have a better solution. Why don't the Republicans govern for a change and amend the FISA law to prevent abuses if they think abuses occurred.

Republicans should be challenged to do their job. I believe they just extended the FISA law without significant changes. They are lazy bums who are not taking care of the country. They only care about their donors and no one else.
 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
38. Right. We need a united response by Democrats and even if possible,
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 02:30 PM
Feb 2018

some sane Republicans to the memo. This is actually an opportunity to allow Republicans to demonstrate how incompetent they are at governing.

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