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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsok, A few weeks ago a stranger walked in my front door..no knock or anything
I am a single, what you might call "older" woman. I do not own a gun. Turns out he thought he was visiting the people next door, bid a hasty retreat when I asked him "what the hell are you doing in my house." and went next door. All this gun talk has gotten me thinking....I would not have had time to shoot him unless I already had a gun pointed at the front door, but what if I had shot him? He was clearly not a threat.
Kind of reinforces my view that not everyone needs a gun.
mnhtnbb
(31,382 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)I live in the boonies, don't own a gun and have nothing worth stealing except a few guitars. I don't like living in fear.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)(house or car) for over 50 years... I have to now that I travel and live in hotels...
RobietheCat
(11 posts)Call for different measures.
You really need to lock your door, you would have been more in control. Secure your windows and back doors to whatever degree your neighborhood demands. But by all means, lock the front door, its 2012.
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)no one knows it or even tries the knob. Sometimes i forget.
like in "Bowling For Columbine" MM talks to all these people in Canadian cities that NEVER lock their doors.
slampoet
(5,032 posts)I say lock your door. It will protect the world from you.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Not much chance of shooting anyone.
slampoet
(5,032 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)But I did get a Jack Russell last year and feel much safer than if I had a gun. That man would have never gotten one single foot in my house without getting it torn off...but she is the sweetest dog one could ever want.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I am also a single woman, so I do not take any chances that the person at my door is harmless.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)of value. I have the best buglar alarm though. I have 3 dogs and they sure let me know when something is out there. I love the peace and quiet. I don't want to live in fear ever.
Raine
(30,540 posts)sense of security, best not to don't take anything for granted.
panader0
(25,816 posts)So a crazed meth addict wants money or what? I don't have much of value, certainly nothing worth the value of my life or his.
I really believe in that "peace and love" stuff. Take my TV. It's a gift.
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)and certainly would not reason in the same way a normal human would.
I personally value my life and person, I keep my front door locked.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Your life.
I get not wanting to lock your doors. I find it an inconvenience as well. Especially since locks really just keep the honest people out.
Maybe consider a dog? Even a small one will give you quite a lot of security benefit.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)we watch out for each other.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Although many Americans do.
Most Americans are trained to live in a state of fear by their masters in the corporate media and their backers...the 1%.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I live in a "low crime" area. But if you don't lock your car doors, people will eventually come around, try them, and steal CDs and such right out of them.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)The OP describes an incident that was an honest mistake, the individual left without incident (and I would assume an apology, a bit embarrassed) and I am willing to bet this sort of thing has NEVER happened to her before and likely won't again. Unless the same guy is a drunk or suffers from address dyslexia!
Yes, locking your doors is done out of fear. The overwhelming majority of people aren't going to hurt you or steal your CD's.
I'm reminded of the Canadian guy that Michael Moore interviewed in his film Bowling for Columbine regarding this very sort of thing. He thought it silly that one would have to lock his doors. And he lived in Windsor, if I remember correctly.
Windsor is right across the river from Detroit, BTW.
On a silly side note, going from Detroit to Windsor is the only place in the US where one actually travels South to get into Canada.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I care about the people who were committing a wave of car thefts late at night in front of people's houses in my area, testing the doors and taking out whatever they could quietly without waking anyone up.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Don't keep valuables in your car.
I own a ragtop, which can be cut, but still - anyone who wants to get into your locked car can smash a window.
Anyone who wants to have a look around inside my car can simply open the door. There is nothing in there to take. But if they cut the roof or smash a window to find out, then I'm going to have to pay to fix it.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)They test the doors, and if they happen to be open, take what they like.
Taking valuables out of my car sounds like fear.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)A whole bunch of my neighbors have had things stolen from their cars in the last few months. I'm personally mystified by why there are things in their cars to steal. They are cars, not storage closets.
By the way, would you like to buy a nice used GPS unit?
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)It's a quiet street with enough houses around that someone would react.
People will steal anything. I'm not talking about leaving jewelry and money in a car, but why should I have to lug my car care kit(battery pack, air compressor, etc.....you know, stuff you need for a car) in every night?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)One thing that casual thieves look for are power adapters for phones and GPS devices. Even if the device is not plugged in, the adapter in the cigarette lighter suggests there may be one in the glove compartment or under a seat.
As with homes, dogs are still the best bet. Leave a dog in your car, and you'll be fine.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)But if someone opens the door, it's not hard to get in the trunk even if you put the valet lock on (but wait....we shouldn't lock!). You can pull back the rear seats.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)On bright sunny days, she just relaxes and lays there for hours.
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)night time.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)She's been so comfy in there, she hasn't moved for about three days so far.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)My 8 track tapes got all messed up that way just last month.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)If I wanted to break into your house it would likely take less time to go through your locked door than to open it. And if the door is a problem the windows certainly aren't.
I'm not saying don't lock your doors, but seriously, it doesn't stop anyone from gaining entrance it they really want to.
RobietheCat
(11 posts).....when you're in twenties, you ability to respond to a strange man, not at the door, but IN the door. When your older, clearly not everyone is as spry. Time can count for a lot.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Response to mnhtnbb (Reply #1)
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xmas74
(29,673 posts)And that's the front door, since I like to be in the backyard when it's not so hot out.
The back door isn't locked until I decide it's time to go to my bedroom. If I'm in my room, all doors are locked.
likesmountains 52
(4,098 posts)kiva
(4,373 posts)I did when I lived in an apartment, mostly because of what the OP is talking about, easy for someone to mistake my place for theirs.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)My kids are running in and out all the time. And it's inconvenient. But I live in a small town with very little crime.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)my husband became increasingly uncomfortable about the idea so I conceded. Funny that. When I was in the habit of keeping my door unlocked while I was home, we were robbed twice when we were out and the door was locked.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)I live in the reality-based world, not one based on fear and panic, as suggested here. Fear and panic, IMO, entails blinding flood lights, attack dogs, security systems, and... guns.
I lock my car doors too (what a wimp!), and never had one stolen. My trusting brother, OTOH, learned the hard way: 2 cars stolen due to unlocked doors. Same with bikes. Way back in junior high, our parents matched our savings and we bought shiny new Schwinns. Mine locked - not stolen; his unlocked - stolen. It's just common sense.
Lockers of the world unite!
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Keep honest people honest and no mowing down those who come in by "mistake"!
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)progressoid
(49,974 posts)nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)Whether in the house or away. I do lock my car though. Doesn't matter if I live in the boonies, city or suburbs... I am not a door locker.
oldhippie
(3,249 posts)Each state controls such laws. Texas is much different than New York.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)even still do in Florida Land of the Gun. Ok, maybe not good, but I will not live my life in FEAR. Still alive, not raped, at the age of 63. The odds are I will die of OLD AGE before I am killed by somebody with a gun.
likesmountains 52
(4,098 posts)door lock. Maybe I am complacent, but at least I don't live in fear yet.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)likesmountains 52
(4,098 posts)Serve The Servants
(328 posts)I ignored the rest.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Honestly, who walks into a house they've apparently never been to without knocking?
likesmountains 52
(4,098 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I always lock my door..have lived alone for years and years, but now even with Mr. Dixie here, I lock it.
house is too big to hear anyone on the porch if I am busy or have headphones on.
We have an increase in break-ins, since the meth heads have found this area.
We are down a long driveway, can't be seen from the street, and I have been surprised at the number of people who come a'knocking.
If I don't know them, I just let the dog go nutz at the front door. They do not stick around long.
Love my privacy.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)I am told that a sharp stick is every bit as effective to massacre people. In case you ever feel threatened.
I may be paraphrasing the actual conversation, but I think I'm close.
Skittles
(153,142 posts)gun or no gun
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)Right after that, she and other person she was with (who I think was a guy) left. I got up, got dressed and went downstairs. Nothing was amiss but I noticed my sink was full of dirty dishes. I thought that if I had known strangers were going to be walking around my house early in the morning, I should have washed the dishes and cleaned up the place a it before I went to bed. Lesson learned!
xchrom
(108,903 posts)But if a stranger walks in with out me - the greeting isn't fun.
My dogs mean the world to me & I don't want anything bad to happen to them.
Prism
(5,815 posts)Mainly because I like the Bay breeze wafting through the apartment. We live in an apartment that shares a numbered address (i.e. 123, 123A, 123B, etc), so we get the errant visitor and delivery type. Occasionally, someone will poke their head in through the door. The worst that happens is they get to see one of us in our boxers. But hey, they take their chances.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)Just curious.
On locking of doors, mine are locked, but in reality, if someone wants to come in, locks won't stop them, only slow them down.
On owning a gun, I don't at the moment, but it is on my list of things to do this year, along with training to use it. I would take the mere presence of a stranger in my house as a danger to my life and property, and if need be would act accordingly.
If you won't own a gun, I suggest owning some sort of self defense. The next stranger you find in your house might not be there accidentally.
And with everyone else I say, lock your doors.
likesmountains 52
(4,098 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)because one time a guy who was running from the cops attempted to run thru my house. The door was locked so he jumped my back fence instead. Too bad for him I live on a steep hillside and he ended up at the bottom. I live in Los Angeles County, no way in hell I would leave my door unlocked. I can't even remember WHY it was the time the wrong way guy came in. Maybe I was expecting company or was careless or something.
On edit I wanted to add since people asked the OP that ... YES I know it was an honest mix up. The guy next door gave dance lessons and people came and went, they would just walk in. The fellow that made the mistake apologized and was obviously upset by his mistake.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)if he had you would have had limited options.
/having a gun doesn't necessitate using it. Discretion is possible.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)I lock up at night and when I am not home, but if I am here, the house is open. I suppose I should have more fear, but I don't want to live that way.
One time when I lived in an apartment, I used to leave the door open so the cats could go out on the porch. I went to bed and forgot to shut the door. I woke up in the middle of the night with my neighbor calling me from the living room with a shotgun in his hand. I scared the shit out of him....now that really was stupid of me. I am usually more cautious than that.
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)bowens43
(16,064 posts)no on e really needs a gun.... guns are about want, not need and not protection.
likesmountains 52
(4,098 posts)crimson77
(305 posts)He would sit in his lounge chair in the corner and it would be in a sleeve like thing on the side. He was a tough s.o.b retired cop and he would let me climb all over him and from an early age I was told never to put my hand in the sleeve thing and coming from him I never would have thought to.
If I'm you i would have at least screamed as loud as I could, that guy is an asshole for not knocking.
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)But it goes into a back yard that has a locks on the gates.
JohnnyRingo
(18,624 posts)It's just that the 1% make so much noise they seem bigger.
If we go about preparing ourselves for every tragedy that life could potentially spring upon us, we'll go insane.
I think we saw a bout of that temporary insanity after 9/11, when the collective country searched desperately for a way to prevent another attack from ever happening again. All we got was a false sense of security. Someday, it will happen again.
In 2004, John Kerry suggested we should expect some terror plots to succeed, and was roundly criticized for it. I believe that if some kook wants to kill a group of people, all the regulations, safeguards, and enforcement will fail to stop him from finding a way.
Thank goodness their numbers are small.
benld74
(9,904 posts)We were not at home. At a school function. Our teen was sitting her younger sister. Texts from teen tells me a guy came over looking for me. I came home, questioned both of them. Teen was in the shower, sister in back of the house, and a guy is suddenly in hbouse asking her wheres your pop?
I KNEW I didnt know the guy. I berated them to KEEP THE DAMN DOOR LOCKED!
Turns out he was looking for the guy next door to us, and the guy knew him. He laughed about it. Hes a jerk by the way.
COuld have been a whole lot worse.
Maynar
(769 posts)Oh yeah: "Trust in Allah, but tie up your camel."
snooper2
(30,151 posts)I don't believe in the shoot to kill shit either..
If somebody was to attack you and they didn't have a gun take the kneecaps out---
emilyg
(22,742 posts)spin
(17,493 posts)and how to use your weapon effectively. That may involve taking a safety training course and going to a range and practicing on a regular basis.
But first you need to be positive that you could actually use your weapon to shoot another person in a true life or death situation. Not everyone can. I don't consider that to be a character fault in the least.
I totally agree that not everybody needs a gun. I am definitely a pro-gun person and those such as me often get criticized for wishing that everybody was armed. As with many other accusations about gun owners, this is false. I often try to discourage many people from owning a firearm for self defense especially if they have little or no experience with such weapons. Practicing basic commonsense security (such as locking your door) may be all you ever have to do to be reasonably safe. Statistics show that the violent crime rate has fallen to levels last seen in the 60s.
I feel that not owning a firearm is quite possibly right decision for you.
HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)and trained us kids to keep the doors locked at all times. Out of habit, I still lock all the doors when I'm at home, day or night. It irritates the others who live here because they have to use their keys when they get home from work/school, but too bad. We live in a pretty safe neighborhood, haven't had a break-in in many years. About 8 years ago, some kids went through our cars, but we keep them locked now, too. I've been here since the 1970's and I don't ever recall a home burglary. But, I'll still lock all the doors -- old habits being hard to break.