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Breaking: Andrew McCabe FBI Deputy Director steps down.. (Original Post) HipChick Jan 2018 OP
Be ready for a BS Republican spin on this! chuckstevens Jan 2018 #1
Exactly..he was going to step down anyway, but just moved it up early.. HipChick Jan 2018 #2
The Twitter MAGA Trolls are squeeing themselves. forgotmylogin Jan 2018 #23
Yep they're on it - Foxworld says he was "removed" underpants Jan 2018 #28
Is it just me? Why does this feel like there are some real bad things going on behind the scenes Pachamama Jan 2018 #3
+1 Baitball Blogger Jan 2018 #12
Depends if we go the 1984 route into oligarchy/fascism or PatrickforO Jan 2018 #15
Don't lay any big bets that the Republic will even exist. olegramps Jan 2018 #32
Thanks for cheering us all up. RandomAccess Jan 2018 #41
The no-good people probably wanted him to say or do something SummerSnow Jan 2018 #20
I have no doubt there was/is a deplorable rogue element within the FBI LiberalLovinLug Jan 2018 #40
Was he forced out by Shitler? workinclasszero Jan 2018 #4
Off to the greatest page for thee malaise Jan 2018 #5
Something foul is afoot. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2018 #6
Hmm, Maybe Shit is About to Hit the Fan and Being a Material Witness, it would be a conflict for him Skraxx Jan 2018 #7
Hope Rachel knows a bit more. triron Jan 2018 #8
I hope this is the correct interpretation. Baitball Blogger Jan 2018 #14
That is my hope. Ligyron Jan 2018 #26
If Mueller's investigation goes past mid-March... TwistOneUp Jan 2018 #30
Now, THAT'S News! MineralMan Jan 2018 #9
Jesus! MelissaB Jan 2018 #10
Woweee.. He is rather young(49) for retirement. Glimmer of Hope Jan 2018 #11
McCabe will have been with the FBI 20 years as of March 2018, so he's eligible Lurks Often Jan 2018 #42
That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation! Glimmer of Hope Jan 2018 #43
Is this a sign that things are about to get worse? IluvPitties Jan 2018 #13
Maybe worst for Trump.. HipChick Jan 2018 #16
I hope so! IluvPitties Jan 2018 #19
He announced his desire to retire last year and said he was just waiting until fully vested LanternWaste Jan 2018 #17
Great opportunity for the NY Field Office annabanana Jan 2018 #18
Wonder if after his last official day in March, he will speak out a bit publicly, as Comey did wishstar Jan 2018 #21
I tend to agree wishstar, But this move is VERY concerning to me. WTF is going on? Old Vet Jan 2018 #22
I have no idea what to make of this.... Upthevibe Jan 2018 #24
How can he do his job, when he's being attacked by multiple powerful people daily? And... Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #37
This happens at the same time the House Intel Committee could vote jalan48 Jan 2018 #25
Foxworld residents are being told he was "removed" underpants Jan 2018 #27
This stinks lillypaddle Jan 2018 #29
It's happening Dopers_Greed Jan 2018 #31
That is SS Nunes. These guys are all fascists. olegramps Jan 2018 #33
Yes looks like Dear Leader makes his move this week workinclasszero Jan 2018 #35
Now that really is breaking news. Remember when Bannon said he was coming to "deconstruct"... Hekate Jan 2018 #34
He fell on the sword, to relieve the pressure on Wray. And he made a deal.... Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #36
Hmmm Sunsky Jan 2018 #38
McCabe already was on his way out Azathoth Jan 2018 #39

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
3. Is it just me? Why does this feel like there are some real bad things going on behind the scenes
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jan 2018

....that has nothing to do with anything that Andrew McCabe is associated with or did that was wrong....

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
15. Depends if we go the 1984 route into oligarchy/fascism or
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 01:47 PM
Jan 2018

remain a republic with some modicum of democracy.

Because all we're saying might become 'crime-think.'

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
32. Don't lay any big bets that the Republic will even exist.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 03:26 PM
Jan 2018

The MSM stood by any watched a demagogue seize the presidency using the same techniques that the Nazis employed in Germany. The Mexicans and Moslems are the scapegoats that he sacrificed to his following of oligarchs and outright nincompoops. The Republican Party has been pursuing a absolute fascist program for the last forty years. This is the culmination.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
40. I have no doubt there was/is a deplorable rogue element within the FBI
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 05:01 PM
Jan 2018

As reports came out about it. Those that pressured Comey to drop the email bomb weeks before the election. And probably still in there trying to hamper the investigation as much as possible.

So I don't know if this is a good thing or bad. Is it a purging of one of the bad Trump seeds, or is it a move to avoid bias by clearing the office of any potential "Hillary lover" to be used as an excuse by Republicans to bolster their accusation that its all a witch hunt.

Skraxx

(2,970 posts)
7. Hmm, Maybe Shit is About to Hit the Fan and Being a Material Witness, it would be a conflict for him
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 01:34 PM
Jan 2018

to remain in the FBI? He may be of more use as a witness if he's not currently DD.

Not sure though. This is big news though.

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
30. If Mueller's investigation goes past mid-March...
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 02:48 PM
Jan 2018

Then he can testify as he wants/needs to without jeapordizing his pension.

I wonder what he has to say?

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
42. McCabe will have been with the FBI 20 years as of March 2018, so he's eligible
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 05:57 PM
Jan 2018

When McCabe announced sometime ago that he was going to retire, it made sense. He was unlikely to be promoted any higher and probably nearly maxed out on how much he could make if he remained with the FBI. So he retires, starts to collect his pension from the FBI and go work in the private sector and make more money then he was making in the FBI.

Most law enforcement agencies have pensions that kick in after 20 years. Taking a guess, he'll get a pension of 50% of his last 3-5 years salary.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. He announced his desire to retire last year and said he was just waiting until fully vested
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 01:48 PM
Jan 2018

He announced his desire to retire last year and said he was just waiting until fully vested (I think that hits sometime this spring).

That said, this announcement comes during a time that could make even the most jaded cynic take a second look.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
21. Wonder if after his last official day in March, he will speak out a bit publicly, as Comey did
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 01:55 PM
Jan 2018

Don't blame him for leaving as soon as he could get a full pension and this way he is able to take advantage of his accumulated leave days and not have to put up any more of the rightwing BS interfering with his ability to do his job there.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
22. I tend to agree wishstar, But this move is VERY concerning to me. WTF is going on?
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 02:02 PM
Jan 2018

Common sense dictates one of two things just happened. As you stated hes looking out for his own personal interests or hes been forced out like others.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
37. How can he do his job, when he's being attacked by multiple powerful people daily? And...
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 03:50 PM
Jan 2018

putting his boss's job in jeopardy. An impossible situation.

Is this America? Is this a democracy? It's looking more and more like Russia.

jalan48

(13,859 posts)
25. This happens at the same time the House Intel Committee could vote
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 02:11 PM
Jan 2018

on the release of Nune's memo. Additionally, Trump will have center stage tomorrow when he gives the SOTU address. Interesting.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
29. This stinks
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 02:32 PM
Jan 2018

Hurry the fuck up, Mr. Mueller. And Lindsey, get that protection going regarding his firing. Time is of the essence.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
31. It's happening
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 03:07 PM
Jan 2018

They're gunning to fire Mueller this week.

This, plus Comrade Nunes trying to leak his memo are the signs it's coming.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
34. Now that really is breaking news. Remember when Bannon said he was coming to "deconstruct"...
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 03:31 PM
Jan 2018

...the federal government? Who knew quite how much help he was gettng?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
36. He fell on the sword, to relieve the pressure on Wray. And he made a deal....
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 03:48 PM
Jan 2018

to get his retirement benefits.

This SO SUCKS.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
39. McCabe already was on his way out
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 04:25 PM
Jan 2018

It's possible there is some embarrassing revelation about him in the Nunes farce-memo, but it's more likely that Wray just wants him gone as soon as possible because the Bureau is under unprecedented attack and McCabe is a giant shiny target. Let's be honest, if Hillary had been elected and the FBI then opened a multi-year investigation into her overseen by a guy whose wife took half a million dollars from Americans for Prosperity, we'd be more than suspicious. Given how hyper-political this whole mess is, McCabe's presence just gives the Trump cult another cudgel they can swing at the FBI.

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