This simply has to be the longest uninterrupted stretch of WTF FUBAR in American history.

[NRaleighLiberal]

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( my reference point is recent history, added in response to a very valid point raised in the thread)




Even given Nixon and Watergate - there must have been a few days of relative sanity and hope.

but THIS? There really are no words to describe what unfolds - what we endure - on a minute by minute, forget daily basis.

And the saddest thing is the staggering percentage of our public - and politicians - that either don't pay attention, don't understand, don't care - or applaud the carnage.

[spanone]

1. people forget that the democrats were the majority in the house and senate during watergate

it was NEVER this insane

[dewsgirl]

2. +1000000 I agree.

[GusBob]

3. truly we are running out of analogies, the barrel has no bottem, the bar cant get lower

But it is like watching a slow motion train wreck.

yesterday there was a post along the lines of "this is NOT the saturday night massacre, y'all" In effect it isn't in 2 ways: Its worse, and its like a years long worth of Saturday nights massacres

[malchickiwick]

4. Um...the 1860s just called to say you're not serious, are you?

As did the following historical eras:
Reconstruction
the 1850s
the Gilded Age
Indian Removal/Age of Jackson
Red Scare I
Red Scare II
Red Scare III
Civil Rights...

[mythology]

5. I suspect any black person living in the U.S. before the Civil War

Would agree with you. Perspective is easy to lose.

[NRaleighLiberal]

8. Good point, but allow a little hyperbole maybe?

I am not in a particulary literal mood lately.

[asiliveandbreathe]

6. We didn't 24/7 news coverage, we had wonderful reporters who loved their country - for the

most part - it was the written word, Cronkite, Bernstein, Woodward etc - newspapers etc...when I think back on the seventies (Massachusetts, in the most liberal county in the state) I was so busy with three little ones..and working full time...I suspect that is somewhat of the reason today..not enough people paying as close attention to the FACTS....static everywhere we turn..RW etc etc..integrity redefined - IMHO...

[Initech]

7. We have an Australian - Russian connected news network (Fox) steering our proverbial car.

And not only have they hijacked the car, they're driving it off a cliff.

[RandomAccess]

9. There were many days of sanity --

the whole Watergate thing unfolded verrrrrrrry sloooooooowly over 2 years or so. We had a news cycle where news broke, usually, once a day, in the morning papers, unlike the 24-hour news cycle we have now.

Things did move along a little faster once the Watergate Hearings started --

Known as the Ervin Committee for its Chairperson, Senator Sam Ervin, the Committee began public hearings on 17 May 1973, that shortly came to be known as the "Watergate Hearings." Television cameras covered the Watergate hearings gavel-to-gavel, from day one until 7 August.

I watched as much as I could with a toddler, absolutely riveted to what was unfolding before me.

BUT, all of that was still nothing like what we're experiencing today. The number and speed of atrocities, shocks to the body politic and our own senses and sensibilities is unparalleled in our history. NOTHING this "fast" and "serious" too has ever happened to us. We've had bad, serious, awful and maybe sometimes fast too -- but not like this. Even pundits on TV are shocked at how a week seems like it's been weeks. "Oh that was just last week? Feels like a month ago." I hear that again and again. I EXPERIENCE that again and again.

[Hekate]

11. Yes

[RandomAccess]

13. Thanks

LOL -- it was a LONG time ago. I appreciate the confirmation my memory is still reasonably accurate on at least the broad strokes.

[Cha]

10. No Kidding! 'cause we weren't there for

the Civil war days.

[Kentonio]

12. I think the main difference now is that it's so blatant

In past scandals there was always the feeling that if it was proven then it would be over. Now they openly defy the constitution, ignore laws and conventions and seemingly just do as they please, and so far there have been no consequences. We even question now whether if Mueller uncovers the truth, it will even be enough. I don't think it's ever been this bad politically since the civil war.

[raven mad]

14. Add SNAFU.....................