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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf nothing is done about the sanctions, is that a quid pro quo?
The sanctions were applied when our intelligence discovered that the Russians had interfered in our election in 2016. Also, a few dozen Russian diplomats were kicked out of the country. The Trump transition team was communicating with the Russians, to re-assure them that the sanctions would be taken care of when they came into office, and General Flynn was caught on a phone call with the Russians. Then, he lied about it.
One by one, it seemed that every person on the transition team had met with the Russians. Jared Kushner, the son-in-law, even tried to set up a secret line of communication, out of reach of American intelligence and any government oversight.
Then it was discovered that the Trump campaign had been involved with shady characters from the Russian government who had promised to help Trump defeat Hillary Clinton. With the meeting of Don Jr, Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort in Trump Tower with several Russians, it only implicated them further. Donald Trump, himself, was very secretive with his associations with Russians and other foreign entities.
Then, Trump fired James Comey. He told several people, even on national TV, that he did it to get rid of the "Russian thing". The Congress had no choice but to vote on the sanctions and it was an over-whelming vote, almost unanimous, in the House and Senate. They then approved the appointment of Robert Mueller as a Special Counsel to investigate the matter. Rod Rosenstein would be his superior, since Jeff Sessions had been forced to recuse himself over his Russian meetings.
The Senate gave the new President a date certain to execute the law and place sanctions on the Russians. The date came and went just a couple of days ago. Trump ignored the law. He said there was no need for sanctions. This was after the Senate passed the bill and he had signed it. He has a constitutional obligation to execute the law.
So, if nothing is done, it appears that the promise that General Flynn made to the Russians will hold. They will continue to do their money laundering in this country and it will be business as usual. The bill that was passed by the Senate is now irrelevant. The President will make his own laws. If this is permitted to go forth, the Russians will have received their "no sanctions" pledge and the Trump team will have received whatever was promised them by the Russians, if anything? It will be a quid pro quo with a country that breaks the law of our country.
That is where we sit today. Whether or not the Senate will do anything about the sanctions or about protecting the investigation is still up in the air. We may not know until it is too late?
dalton99a
(81,455 posts)If Shithole keeps up the good work, his daughter will get the throne after that
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hedda_foil
(16,373 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Trump's sanctions defiance, aided and abetted by the RePutins in Congress, is a bridge too far, and solid evidence of quid pro quo conspiracy.
kentuck
(111,080 posts)But he is being threatened by Trump that he may be fired so he has to watch his step just a little, perhaps?
atreides1
(16,076 posts)With reports that the head of the Russian spy agency, a man who is on the sanction list, meeting with US intelligence leaders, it seems as quid pro quo...is already in play!
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/other/us-intel-officials-met-with-russian-spy-chief-outside-dc/vi-BBIugxi
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/russian-spy-chief-sanctions-met-u-s-officials-week-article-1.3789075
kentuck
(111,080 posts)The Russian Chief of Foreign Intelligence Service was invited in our front door and met with Pompeo, the new CIA Chief. It was against the law.
genxlib
(5,524 posts)Is it an admission of guilt. There is no other reason for them to do this other than that they are beholden to Russia.
Every discussion, article and question should frame it this way and ask them to give any reason for it.
All follow-up questions and discussions should then ask why won't Russia do it again? There has been no punishment and no effort to prevent it.
Among all the things going on, this is the common thread that links all of it together. There is no possible valid excuse for them to behave this way and they should be hammered for it.
kentuck
(111,080 posts)Clear as day.