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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:36 PM Jan 2018

So this new Trump, Rosenstein news helps protect Rosenstein. Is it enough?

I've been holding my breath because I expect Trump to make a move on Rosenstein. I suspect that is what this Nunes memo is all about.

This leak/new news about Trump's obstruction helps protect Rosenstein. I don't think this would be coming out now if he (Rosenstein) wasn't in danger of being fired.

Do you think this is enough to keep Trump from firing him?

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So this new Trump, Rosenstein news helps protect Rosenstein. Is it enough? (Original Post) MelissaB Jan 2018 OP
No, nothing is. GOP has decided they will commit treason, they will destroy country Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #1
I think it was a counter play that helps Rosenstein Iliyah Jan 2018 #2
I agree - it helps Rosenstein. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #4
Did it help protect Comey? Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2018 #3
Comey didn't leak it soon enough. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #5
the news doesn't do anything to protect him. unblock Jan 2018 #6
As David Cay Johnston says, Wellstone ruled Jan 2018 #7
It may not help Rosenstein, but it will help define and make all the more Sophia4 Jan 2018 #8

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
1. No, nothing is. GOP has decided they will commit treason, they will destroy country
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:40 PM
Jan 2018

to get what they want.

If we are allowed to vote, we can do something, if our votes are counted, etc.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. I think it was a counter play that helps Rosenstein
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:40 PM
Jan 2018

and the FBI.

With these motherfuckers in congress and WH, you have fight like a cat cornered.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
4. I agree - it helps Rosenstein.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:42 PM
Jan 2018

And buys a little more time for Mueller to get his case together.

Not much though. Mueller had better be loaded for Bandersnatch.

unblock

(52,116 posts)
6. the news doesn't do anything to protect him.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:44 PM
Jan 2018

if donnie is satisfied with whatever response rosenstein gave, *that* will buy him more time to continue the investigation (if he isn't corrupted or intimidated, that is).

if donnie is not satisfied with the response, donnie will try to do something. what, exactly, remains to be seen, but something.


frankly, under the circumstances, i'm fine with rosenstein declaring his loyalty to donnie if he did so as a stall while the investigation continues. if that's what happened.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. As David Cay Johnston says,
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:44 PM
Jan 2018

Trump will do what ever is most convenient for him and his Image. He has mentioned that Donald will most likely fire anyone who might seem to be a threat to him.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
8. It may not help Rosenstein, but it will help define and make all the more
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 05:46 PM
Jan 2018

believable by all the more people, a charge of obstruction of justice by the Mueller investigation.

We are already in a constitutional crisis.

If Trump fires Rosenstein, it will be construed not as a just exercise of Trump's authority but as an obstruction of justice. And that may be how Trump is finally moved out of the White House.

Pence is a religious fanatic, but probably more likely to respect the limitations on the executive branch set forth in the Constitution.

The challenge for us Democrats is to clearly tell the American people who we are, what we stand for and why it is imperative that they vote for our candidates.

That's where our focus should be. What are our principles and values?

We did not make them clear enough in 2016. Because if we had, we would have won the presidential election in the key states.

(And while we are at it, but for the electoral college, Hillary would be in the White House. Let's amend the Constitution to get rid of the electoral college and let's require a paper trail in all elections.)

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