Dead goose falls from sky, knocks Maryland hunter unconscious

[SunSeeker]

A Maryland waterfowl hunter was flown to the hospital Thursday after he was struck unconscious by a duck he had just shot out of the sky, authorities say, CBS Baltimore reports. Robert Meilhammer, 51, was hunting with others in Easton near the Miles River shortly before 5 p.m. when the dead goose fell from the sky.

The Maryland Natural Resources Police said the hunter was sent to the University of Maryland Shock Trauma Center where he was treated for head and facial injuries. Meilhammer has been listed in stable condition, officials said.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robert-meilhammer-dead-goose-falls-sky-knocks-baltimore-maryland-hunter-unconscious/

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So many analogies to what's going on in the news...

[MFM008]

1. Darwin awards

Continue.......

[SunSeeker]

2. Yep, kinda how that Nunes memo is going to come back to flatten Trump.

[Hortensis]

7. Doing a quick search to hopefully confirm he wasn't

badly hurt (neck?), and he doesn't seem to be at this point, I ran across a surprisingly serious, informative article from USA Today.

The incident would have happened quickly: An object 90 feet in the air takes less than 3 seconds to fall to the ground if you ignore the effects of wind, according to a free-fall calculator that does the math on the equation you learned in physics class. At the point the bird hit Meilhammer, it would have been traveling at more than 50 miles an hour; gravity increases any object's speed as it gets closer to the ground.

I needed a physics lesson from USA today, because my high school class was clearly far too long ago. I always kind of imagined that if I fell out of a 9-story building I'd have time for last wishes for my family. Less than 3 seconds. Apparently not.

[Lucinda]

12. WOW!

That could seriously do some damage...

[Hortensis]

17. 50 mph! Hey, who remembers WKRP in Cincinnati,

the station's Thanksgiving Turkey Drop promotion?!

"As god is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly."

"Oh, the humanity!"

[tavernier]

18. We always play that at thanksgiving

for the kids to see. Guaranteed laughs!

[Hortensis]

20. You just made me wonder, have our grandchildren

all seen it? Gotta find out, thanks. Thanksgiving would be perfect.

[NutmegYankee]

24. Sadly this contributes to the myth that they can't fly.

I've seen them jump off and take flight many times, and they fly very well.

[GulfCoast66]

27. Those are wild turkeys

Many domestic ones are bred to be so large flight is impossible

[dhol82]

103. Still remember when some person in my area decided to reintroduce wild turkeys

Found one sleeping on the railing of my deck. Could not believe that there was a freaking turkey sleeping on the railing of my deck.
Later saw one of the flock fly up about fifty feet into a tree.
Sadly, the flock that was introduced was not a transplanted wild flock. It was a bunch of hatchling birds. The Fox and hawks had a banner year.

[AllaN01Bear]

35. "nobody told me they couldnt fly"

and this isnt the onion.

[dhol82]

102. That was an amazing episode

[Shemp Howard]

14. For what it's worth...

...there is no way a falling goose would be in free-fall. There would be too much air resistance. A round, falling rock, yes, that would be close to free-fall. Ouch!

But a falling goose, no. I'm thinking that being hit be a falling goose would be something like being hit by a falling seat cushion. It would sure smart. But it would be nothing like being hit by a round, falling rock of the same weight.

[GulfCoast66]

28. I disagree

Those things are big, heavy and bony. I have shot them before. And if the bird was flying towards him which seems most likely it was already moving at 40-60mph.

[DeminPennswoods]

86. Have you ever seen a goose up close?

They, especially the Canada geese, are huge.

[Orrex]

141. Um, no.

He didn't die and wasn't removed from the gene pool. Nor was he doing something stupid (i.e., his death wasn't caused by his own idiocy).

Not a Darwin Award at all, in fact.

[Raine]

3. Karma!

[SunSeeker]

4. Exactly.

I love these kind of stories.

[GulfCoast66]

29. A man behaving totall legally is badly hurt

And you love the story? That is kind of sad.

He may be a good democrat or even a member of DU for all we know.

[SunSeeker]

42. I love karma.

Shooting animals for sport may be legal, but it's immoral. Much like being an asshole.

[Kirk Lover]

44. Yeah I don't like the lets kill just for fun shit either. nt

[USALiberal]

115. He killed an animal who injured him. No problem IMO. nt

[GulfCoast66]

121. And I guess you would be fine with someone slipping in the meat department

Of a grocery store and breaking their leg?

[USALiberal]

123. Stupid argument. But I assume you know that. n/t

[GulfCoast66]

126. Not as stupid in taking pleasure in someones injury

Maybe you and all the folks on this thread taking pleasure from this fellows injuries are vegans. If so, the you are not a hypocrite, just cruelly insensitive.

But if meat eaters then hypocrites. Because non hunting meat eaters just pay others to do their dirty work.

[NickB79]

38. Only monsters birdhunt, right?

[SunSeeker]

41. Nope, not monsters. But not a fan of hunting for sport.

Sorry if that ruffles your feathers.

[NickB79]

47. If you eat meat, hunting it is more humane than buying it

And I say this having grown up on a family farm: all meat production is inherently inhumane, no matter how organic or free range the label may say.

[SunSeeker]

50. There is no evidence this guy was hunting to survive.

I doubt he was killing geese to eat them. Geese do not taste good.

[doc03]

54. If a goose is prepared properly they are pretty good. A buddy of mine gave me

a goose breast he cooked. He said he marinated it 12 hours and cooked it in a slow cooker it was sort of like beef roast.

[SunSeeker]

61. You make my point. Goose is only good if you make it taste like something else (beef). nt

[doc03]

63. Hey it doesn't taste like chicken like everything else does LOL

[Julian Englis]

64. Wild goose taste fine.

He didn't make your point.

[SunSeeker]

66. Fine, but not good.

And its only fine if you cover it in herbs and spices, or a marmalade glaze, etc., to cover the gamey taste.

[Ilsa]

106. I think duck is too naturally fatty.

I've cooked and eaten duck. I'm fine with the taste, but it seems greasy.

[OhioBlue]

137. you don't have to make it taste like beef... it just does.

The first time I prepared a dish with goose meat, I made it like I would chicken only to be surprised that it tasted more like beef. My husband hunts and we eat what he kills. I now prepare it more like I would use beef. Goose and noodles, goose stew, shredded bbq, etc. I don't use any more seasonings than I would in a dish prepared with beef.

I feel eating wild game is more humane and healthy than buying meat from the supermarket.

[Julian Englis]

57. Every goose hunter I know eats what they kill

I don't hunt but I know a lot of people who do. And everyone I know who hunts deer, waterfowl, or upland birds eat what they kill. I personally know no one who kills just for the thrill of it. Among my outdoor friends who hunt, such people who kill for the thrill of it are regards as embarrassments.

[SunSeeker]

60. Killing wild animals is not good for the environment and is an expensive way to feed yourself.

When wild animals kill other wild animals, they pick out the weak and the sick. When humans kill wild animals, they pick out the best and most magnificent specimens. That hurts that family of animals. It is also done randomly and can leave babies without a mother.

And it is a very inefficent way of feeding yourself if that is your goal. It is much cheaper to just go to the store and buy yourself a farmed goose or duck than to spend money on guns, ammunition, gas, licenses and a myriad of other things like this guy obviously did when he went with his group of buddies to go shooting at wild waterfowl. Sorry, not buying your story. When you go to that much trouble to kill a wild goose or duck, you are not doing it to eat, you are doing it for the jollies.

[Julian Englis]

65. You're pretty much wrong on all points other than it many cases it can expensive

Folks don't hunt most animals when they have offspring. Deer, upland game, and waterfowl hunting seasons occur when they are with offspring--they're in better shape then. Generally, it's the weaker,slower, or more dumber critters that are shot.

Going after game can be expensive, but for most it is more than putting meat on the table. You might as well say tennis is a waste of time because there are shorter, better workouts.

Further, it is always. I know a number of people in norther Michigan who do put most of a year's supply of meat on their tables in the form of venison they harvest by hunting. They do it because they can't afford not to.

Attack golf if you want to attack an environmentally activity that harms animals and has little benefit. Golf courses routinely exterminate all sorts of wildlife directly.

[SunSeeker]

67. That man shot that goose out of the sky because it was big and easier to hit.

Not because it was slow, weak, or dumb. Sheesh.

[Drahthaardogs]

79. Ever try to shoot a goose? It's hard.

Regardless that weak stuff is bullshit too. In Alaska, wolves eat Everything until it's gone, then they move on. Over time, prey repopulate the area.

[SunSeeker]

83. Wolves kill to survive.

The problem is, we have left wolves with so little of their natural wild prey that they are turning to domesticated animals, causing Alaskans to turn on the wolves. It is a very sad situation there, really.

[Drahthaardogs]

85. I lived in Alaska for a decade and you

Have absolutely no idea what the hell you are talking about.

[SunSeeker]

90. Um...

Where wolves are protected under the Endangered Species Act, the most common cause of death for wolves is conflict with people over livestock losses. While wolf predation on livestock is fairly uncommon, wolves that are suspected of preying on livestock are often killed, sometimes even entire packs.

 https://defenders.org/gray-wolf/threats

[Drahthaardogs]

108. We were talking about Alaska

.

[EX500rider]

116. Alaskan wolves

Alaska is home to an estimated 7,000 to 11,000 wolves. Wolves have never been threatened or endangered in Alaska.

http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=wolf.main

[SunSeeker]

134. WaPo: Storied Alaska wolf pack beloved for decades has vanished, thanks to hunting

For decades, the wolves of the storied East Fork pack were beloved by researchers and tourists alike at Alaska’s Denali National Park. They frequented the park’s entrance and roads and became the stars of hundreds of thousands of family vacation photos.

Since the 1930s, scientists have documented every detail of the pack’s lives: their hunting ranges, mating rituals, even the content of their droppings. They traced family lineage through dozens of generations, giving individual wolves names like “The Dandy,” “Grandpa” and “Robber Mask.”

Now the researchers must record one final detail in the wolves’ long history: They may all be dead.
The last radio-collared male was found shot dead near a hunting camp in May. Now, park officials can’t find the last three pack members: a mother wolf without a collar and her two pups. It’s impossible to know for sure what happened to them, officials said, but it’s unlikely that the mother and her pups will survive without the support and protection of a pack. The family’s den is empty and overgrown with weeds. Porcupines have taken it over since June 28, when the group was last seen.

The wolf pack is the most recent fatality of a controversial Alaska policy that allows hunters to kill wolves and other large predators in the state’s national wildlife refuges, wildlife advocates say. Park officials estimated 49 wolves lived in Denali National Park this spring, only three more than the park’s all-time low of 46 in 1986 and a significant decline from the early 2000s when it was common to count more than 100. In 2015, only 5 percent of Denali visitors reported seeing a wolf — down from 45 percent in 2010.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/08/09/storied-alaska-wolf-pack-beloved-for-decades-has-vanished-thanks-to-hunting/?utm_term=.9869673885c2

And the fact that Alaska's wolves have not been listed as endangered is not for lack of trying by concerned wildlife groups. Apparently, even a 75% decline in numbers does not warrant an Endangered listing by USFWS:

Despite a 75 percent decline in population levels on the Prince of Wales island in the Alaska Panhandle over the past 10 years, the US Fish and Wildlife Service insists the Alexander Archipelago wolf is not endangered.

https://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2016/0106/Just-89-of-these-Alaskan-wolves-remain-but-are-they-endangered

[Doremus]

75. Wish I could rec this post. On point, all of it. Thank you. nt

[Drahthaardogs]

77. Wrong. Wrong, and just fucking wrong.

Here in the Midwest they have a snow goose hunt that is unlimited because they are literally destroying the Arctic. Our agriculture practices have caused their population to explode to levels their nesting grounds cannot handle


Please don't spread bullshit. .

[SunSeeker]

87. That unique instance does not justify hunting all waterfowl.

Environmental and animal advocates see hunting as barbaric, arguing that it is morally wrong to kill animals, regardless of practical considerations. According to Glenn Kirk of the California-based The Animals Voice, hunting “causes immense suffering to individual wild animals…” and is “gratuitously cruel because unlike natural predation hunters kill for pleasure…” He adds that, despite hunters’ claims that hunting keeps wildlife populations in balance, hunters’ license fees are used to “manipulate a few game [target] species into overpopulation at the expense of a much larger number of non-game species, resulting in the loss of biological diversity, genetic integrity and ecological balance.”

Beyond moral issues, others contend that hunting is not practical. According to the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS), the vast majority of hunted species—such as waterfowl, upland birds, mourning doves, squirrels and raccoons—“provide minimal sustenance and do not require population control.”

[Drahthaardogs]

109. Bullshit.

Real "environmental advocates" are the ecologists and biologists paid to manage these animals.

Hunting is not barbaric and is an important management tool.

You are probably the same guy who cries about an elk hunter but enjoys skiing.

[SunSeeker]

138. Hunting for sport is barbaric and cruel, even when done in the name of culling a herd.

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There are much more humane ways to cull populations of animals.


P.S. I don't ski.

[EX500rider]

74. These is no evidence someone buying steaks at the store is doing it to survive either..

So what?
Cow/goose both animals people eat.

[SunSeeker]

78. There's a big difference between killing wild animals and eating farmed animals.

We have precious few wild animals left. There is no shortage of cattle.

[EX500rider]

81. Wild Geese aren't on the endangered species list either.

[SunSeeker]

84. All waterfowl face pressure from habitat distruction.

Duck numbers are declining:

The total pond estimate was 5 million, which was 21% below last year’s estimate of 6.3 million and similar to the long-term average of 5.2 million. Despite an early spring over most of the survey area, habitat conditions were poorer than last year because of below-average precipitation and subsequent drying of wetlands. Most prairie and parkland regions were at best fair for waterfowl production.

https://flyways.us/status-of-waterfowl

[EX500rider]

88. I see you skipped over this bit:

2016 duck population and pond estimates from the annual Waterfowl Breeding Population and Habitat Survey are now available. The estimate of 48.4 million breeding ducks was similar to last year’s estimate of 49.5 million, and 38% above the long-term average.

Not quite disappearing now are they?

[SunSeeker]

91. You quoted a paragraph that confirms decreasing numbers.

Where I went to school, 48.4 million was less than 49.5 million. That's 1.1 million less ducks from the prior year.

[EX500rider]

94. Those are estimates. It also says numbers are up 38% over long term average.

[SunSeeker]

95. That long term average includes a lot of really bad years for ducks.

Being 38% above that average does not mean duck numbers are increasing. It just means they haven't fallen below a low average figure, which, by the way, is also based on "estimates."

The fact is, they declined by a million.

[EX500rider]

96. No the fact is the estimate was close to the last year, they don't go around and count every bird.

So close to 50 million of them, not quite scare are they?

[SunSeeker]

98. 1.1 million is a lot LESS ducks. It is certainly not MORE.

I guess "close" is in the eyes of the beholder.

[EX500rider]

99. Actually it could be more as it is an estimate.

A 2% difference is not that alarming as it a estimate.

Either way 50 million ducks doesn't help your "don't hunt them" due to scarcity.

[SunSeeker]

100. It supports my argument if you care about facts. I didn't say ducks were "scarce." nt

[EX500rider]

101. You may think so but a estimate that is within 2% of the last one doesn't say what u seem to think.

That is within margin of error.

[SunSeeker]

107. "Margin of error"? OFFS. It's not political poll.

Now you're just making shit up.

[EX500rider]

112. Hardly, when you have a figure of close to 50 million that is an estimate..

....you can bet the margin of error is more then 2%+-.

Or were you under the impression all the ducks walked by someone counting them? lol

[SunSeeker]

113. Oh, I see, you're "betting" there's a 2% margin of error.

[EX500rider]

118. Oh. I see, you think they counted every duck...

[SunSeeker]

129. No, wildlife experts know how to accurately sample to determine popluation size.

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And if the population was increasing, they wouldn't have determined the population dropped by 1.1 million ducks.

[petronius]

144. The population estimates do include a margin of error; for the numbers listed above,

the reported standard error is about 0.8 million. For what it's worth, the 2017 report from US F&WS is available here, and the 2017 total duck estimate is again lower. Not, however, in a way that led the report writers to suggest a long-term decline:



All of which is sort of moot, though, since the fellow in the OP was almost certainly clonked by an Atlantic population Canada goose, rather than a duck. The 2017 FWS report indicates that breeding pairs of CG in that region are holding steady, but that the total population is decreasing (with a caveat that total population estimates are uncertain due to the presence of transient birds from other populations.)

[SunSeeker]

145. It's not called a percent margin of error like in polling.

And the poster I was having a conversation with was just making up a 2% figure.

Bottom line, as you have confirmed, is the duck population declined.

And yes, the hunter probably shot a Canada Goose, not a duck. But even a small duck could knock him out if it fell from enough of a height.

[Marengo]

93. Ever tried authentic kao e? If you havent, your opinion might change.

[Kirk Lover]

45. I don't give a fuck who it is.... Killing for fun is FOWL.

[TheFrenchRazor]

71. karma's a goose! haha. nt

[Cha]

5. Wow.. what are the odds!

Glad he's okay but.. really, I think I'd think twice about shooting birds from the sky again.

It's true..

[SunSeeker]

6. Yep, a goose or duck dropping poop, let alone their bodies, will mess you up.

[johnmont]

135. hunt

Remember the Flintstones movie!

[johnmont]

136. goose

His goose was cooked!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

62. Karma Cafe? No entree for me.

I'll have just deserts, thanks.

[Cha]

82. Just Desserts Works, too.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

92. However you spell it, I've earned it.

Whatever it is.

[flibbitygiblets]

8. Dann! Wasn't Dick Cheney

[catbyte]

9. The only tragedy is that the goose was dead.

[BHDem53]

10. Someone should have yelled GOOSE! instead of DUCK!

[Canoe52]

13. Lol!

[Crunchy Frog]

11. The goose didn't die in vain. n/t

[lapfog_1]

53. Given the lacerations to the hunter

The goose might well have died in vein.

[colorado_ufo]

15. I dearly love all animals.

I do not hunt, but I do know that waterfowl hunting is highly regulated, and the licenses help support wildlife and wildlife habitat. Also, waterfowl Hunters almost always eat what they take in the way of game. They are not Trophy Hunters.

[USALiberal]

23. And I am sure many die in agony and some take days to die. nt

[GulfCoast66]

30. Same as when they are taken or just injured

By an eagle, hawk, coyote, bobcat or any other predator. And we are the only one that even considers their pain and attempt to limit their suffering.

Hell, many predators will start eating an animal that is still living.

[USALiberal]

58. LOL, the damn hunters are not trying to survive. Get it yet? Or need more differences?

[GulfCoast66]

114. Cant speak for this fellow

But I know several people who depend on venison, wild hog and waterfowl in the freezer to help feed their family.

Hunting is expensive for city dwellers like me, but to rural folks of moderate means hunting can really help them financially.

[EX500rider]

117. Whats the difference between eating a cow or goose?

[USALiberal]

120. Most people hunt for entertainment, not to survive. n/t

[EX500rider]

125. So they like to be involved in the procuring of their own food..

...but everybody eats to survive, what they choose to eat is up to them.

[joet67]

16. Normally I dont shoot straight up over

my head. WTH?

[linuxman]

40. Physics much?

A bird in flight shot directly above you would not drop onto you.

[joet67]

143. Normally I dont shoot a bird 🦅 in such

a position that it would hit me in the head. There. I do hope that it satisfactorily explained for the literalist crowd.

[tavernier]

19. Too bad an elephant didnt fall on Don Jr.

[smirkymonkey]

21. Karma is a bitch.

Serves him right if he was out killing innocent animals/birds just for sport.

I actually find this pretty funny (not the animal abuse, but the fact that he is finally getting what he deserved).

[liberalnarb]

52. WTF?

[GulfCoast66]

32. If the animal was not going to be consumed

He was breaking the law.

Very few hunters kill animals just for the hell of it and leave them lay. And those that do are reviled by the entire hunting community and are most often turned into law enforcement by other hunters witnesses their repulsive behavior.

We would have many fewer waterfowl if not for hunter based conservation efforts.

[Blues Heron]

22. That's what he gets for scattering all that lead around

Nasty habit hunting is

[GulfCoast66]

33. You might want to edit or delete your post

As it is totally inaccurate. It has been illegal for 40 years to shoot waterfowl with lead as it poisons dabbling ducks that consume it.

This guy was using steel shot most likely.

[Marengo]

34. Maryland requires non-toxic (no lead) shot for waterfowl hunting.

[lindysalsagal]

26. ...and the duck was listed in dead condition.

Ok ok there's going to be duck hunting. Gottit.

It sickens me that people get off on using high-tech ballistics against small, defenseless wild animals just "for fun."

If it's really going to be "sporting", and worthy of bragging rights, set a few wild tigers against a couple of humans armed with only claws and sharp teeth.

[Archae]

43. "Small defenseless?"

Ever been attacked by wild ducks or geese?

I have. By both.

They can get REALLY vicious if they want to, ducks and geese are very territorial, and will attack cats, dogs, and humans!

And it looks like, "Oh, I don't like hunting, even as regulated as it is and how much hunters contribute to wildlife habitats, so I'm going to condemn all hunters."

The old ways, of using "punt guns" to slaughter entire flocks with one shot are gone, but canned hunts still exist, even though almost all hunting organizations condemn canned hunts.

[SunSeeker]

69. Pray tell, Archae, how do those "REALLY vicious" wild geese defend themselves against bullets?

[Archae]

70. Just say it then.

*YOU* don't like hunting, so that makes it "evil."

[SunSeeker]

97. So you now admit the geese in this story were defenseless to this hunter's bullets?

Not sure what my views on hunting have to do with whether or not these geese were defenseless. Or why it is so important to you that I "say it."

But if you want to know, I'll tell you. I think hunting for pleasure is immoral and cruel.

[EX500rider]

124. Actually the goose wasn't entirely defenseless...

...as it could fly away at 40mph. At altitudes up to 9,000ft. This one must have zigged when he should have zagged.

Canada geese fly at an average speed of about 40 miles per hour when migrating, but may increase their speed to 70 miles per hour if they catch a strong tailwind.

https://americanexpedition.us/learn-about-wildlife/canada-goose-facts-information-photos/

[SunSeeker]

128. Wow, you really are sticking with that?

Let's assume he was shooting at a particularly speedy Canada Goose going 40 mph. A bullet travels on average 1,700 mph. A goose can't outfly a bullet. A hunter needing to have decent aim is not a "defense" by the goose.

[Stinky The Clown]

31. :sniggle: :sniggle: :snort: :giggle:

I hope Mr. Meilhammer makes a :snicker: full recovery.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

36. DU's reaction to hunting stories always makes my day.

The hyperbole is exquisite. And who knew we had so many psychic vegans who can discern exactly what kind of person this guy is! It's amazing.

[NutmegYankee]

49. I know...

They just see nice little packages of meat at the grocery store and never have to realize a cow was marched into a stall and punched through in the head with a metal spike or a chicken was hung upside down and got its head sliced off with a circular blade.

[Drahthaardogs]

133. Don't you know?

They only remove on leg and let the animal live.

Three legged cows are EVERYWHERE!

It's how the get leather and gelatin too!

[MicaelS]

68. It is very enlightening to see the

"Animals matter more than people" come out of the woodwork when stories like this appear.

And don't get me started on the ones that think their pets matter more than people crowd.

I adhere to the Clinton phrase "Putting people FIRST".

[Ferrets are Cool]

37. Best news of my day so far. nm

[Crunchy Frog]

39. Leadbelly - Grey Goose

[Blue_true]

46. Wow.

See something falling and can't figure out where to run away. Hopefully that guy is childless.

[jmowreader]

48. Was it a duck or a goose? The story says both.

[doc03]

51. A duck is a duck a goose is a goose? So he shot a duck and a goose fell on him?

[panader0]

55. I believe that a goose weighs more than a duck.

Maybe it was a duckgoose.

[doc03]

56. Wild geese are much bigger than ducks.

[jberryhill]

89. African or European Duck?

[Yonnie3]

104. It's complicated

see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck,_duck,_goose

[Beartracks]

59. The author uses duck and goose interchangeably.

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[Orrex]

140. Fowl journalism

That bothered me as well.

[Beartracks]

142. Lol

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[Hekate]

72. He shot a duck and a goose fell on his head? Something doesn't compute, but pass the gravy nt

[suffragette]

73. LOL. Yeah, quite a difference in size. Mmm, plum sauce

for me.

[Hekate]

80. Roast goose is the traditional English Yule dinner...

Back in grad school my English Lit class got together at Christmas to treat ourselves to roast goose and all the trimmings, including Yorkshire Pudding (which is not at all what we call a pudding), Plum Pudding with hard sauce, and so on. That was fun, and tasty too. I think we toasted Charles Dickens.

I really don't care if people hunt their duck (or goose) dinners. Claiming the hunters would let it go to waste is a foul canard.

My daughter and her significant other have a flock of ducks in their backyard. Nine of them got smoked for Thanksgiving, and happily eaten by as many people as they could gather for the day.

What a weird, warped, and self-righteous thread this turned out to be.

[Yonnie3]

105. I agree about the thread

Nice to read your congenial post.

I've never had a full up English Christmas dinner, it sounds good. I've had both domestic and wild goose and much prefer the domestic. The same for duck and turkey. My sister did the grad English, but would have more likely quoted Chaucer. Her husband (the English Prof) could do the Dickens, but seems immersed in the Scots, Burns for one.

I spent time in South Wales for work so I know what the puddings are like. What a biscuit is there surprised me.

[GulfCoast66]

119. Hunting threads always do in my experience

If we hunting members of the Democratic Party allow our party to be seen as anti hunting we will never achieve the majority again.

I am a dedicated liberal and always will be. But a only somewhat interested Democratic leaning guy or girl in a rural will be driven from the party if the see us as anti hunting.

[suffragette]

139. Ive only had roast goose once. Duck, countless times. Enjoy it many different ways: with buns

And plum sauce, with sauce a la orange or roasted with herbs.
And duck fat is like liquid gold, makes the best fried potatoes.

Agree about the thread. Some of my brothers used to hunt and we ate rabbit, deer and elk they shot. Nothing ever went to waste. They had it butchered and we packed the freezer. Made some into jerky. Haven’t had elk jerky for a long time. They even had the horns carved into buttons.

[orangecrush]

76. Poetic justice

[aikoaiko]

110. I wonder what the terminal velocity is of an average dead goose

:Shrug:

[Snackshack]

111. Bird shot while flying...

...surprises hunter by falling to the ground.

[LuckyCharms]

122. Trump said that the fall killed the goose.

[SunSeeker]

130. Of course. It fell on the bullet. LOL

[GWC58]

127. I dont hunt, period!

Nor do I own ANY type of firearms.

[Sneederbunk]

131. Metaphor: Goose is the memo and the hunter is the GOP.

[SunSeeker]

132. Yep. nt