Has Rachel given a possible explanation for Devin Nunes's bizarre behavior ?

[OnDoutside]

Last night Rachel said

1 that Carter Page, on his last interview with Chris Hayes (10/30/17), said that the truth will come out

HAYES: Did you bring an attorney to you when you spent five hours before
the senate?

PAGE: Nope. No. I`m very, very open and happy to give all the
information I can. In the interest of really getting the truth out there,
because I think when the truth comes out, when Speaker Paul Ryan says the
FISA warrant or the details about the dodgy dossier and what happened and
all this documents around that is going to be released, that`s what I`m
really excited about. And I think the truth will set a lot of people free.

2 that Carter Page had been under FISA surveillance since Oct 2016.

Rachel was struck by the fact that Page was so confident that Ryan would square this all away.

Now Rachel never joined the two together, but isn't it possible that the deal to keep Page's mouth sealed was taped by the FBI ? More to the point since Page was so confident Ryan would do this, Nunes, Ryan and possibly more, are on tape agreeing to this ?

I have not yet seen any evidence as to why Nunes would run around like an idiot for Trump, so this is at least a possible scenario.

[C_U_L8R]

1. After yesterday's fiasco

I don't think Ryan is gonna be sticking his neck out for any of these dumb trumps. Whether there's evidence incriminating Ryan, well, that would be a beautiful thing to behold. And not surprising.

[Kirk Lover]

18. It kinda looks like maybe. Ryan is sticking his neck out as far as I'm concerned...He

went so far as to say a cleanse of the FBI ( I think it was that word)...now why would he really want that? Why is he trying to discredit this FIsA process? Perhaps yes he is caught up in it himself in some way. I think I'll have a little fun with this theory to the tRUMPers on twitter.

[LiberalFighter]

21. Oh I hope there is incriminating evidence.

Or at least the strong suggestion that there is.

[dchill]

2. The only explanation I can think of is that...

Putin has a stranglehold on them ALL.

[OnDoutside]

3. In Ryan's case I could only imagine any Putin ties would be campaign contributions, whereas in this

case, if there is a wiretap of Page agreeing to keep silent because Ryan agreed to take part in this Memo charade, then he is implicated in Obstruction of Justice too, along with Nunes (and more) who was probably the lapdog go-between.

[dchill]

5. I'm thinking campaign contributions that were...

divvied up among many other GOP Congress members. Ditto on the Senate side through McConnell. And the NRA.

[OnDoutside]

7. That looks entirely likely but I suspect they could say they accepted the money from a US

organisation. IMO I think there's more to it than that.

[triron]

15. follow the money as Rachel says.

[Sancho]

8. this....

Ryan and others were all in on obstruction.

Not to mention that Ryan and friends were probably well aware of Russian contributions and interferences in 2016. Right now, McTurtle and Ryan probably don't really know how much of their conspiring is on tape, but they are worried.

[OnDoutside]

10. Definitely. It's worth remembering that even Never Trump Republicans were shocked when the

latest turn started a couple of months ago, that the likes of Ryan etc went down this road.

[JI7]

4. also remember when Nunes was first doing the run around back and forth with the White House

he said he told Paul Ryan about it. Paul Ryan has never really talked about this and explained himself.

Lawrence odonnell has talked about this many times and how people who interview Ryan almost never ask him about it. one time someone on msnbc did and ryan gave some quick yes/no type answer and moved on to a different issue.

[OnDoutside]

6. That's a great point, I'd forgotten that.

[lindysalsagal]

9. Maybe Rachel ignores Nunes because he's just carrying frump's water.

Rachel never wallows in unimportant details. Nunes is just a toady.

[OnDoutside]

11. It's not Nunes she ignored, it's the tying the link from Page being under surveillance to Page

saying to Hayes that

when Speaker Paul Ryan says the FISA warrant or the details about the dodgy dossier and what happened and
all this documents around that is going to be released

Clearly for Page to be so confident of that, he MUST have been given some indication that this would happen, and why specifically mention Paul Ryan ? Logically, I would have thought he'd have said Trump.

[Progressive dog]

12. Rachel did pretty much explain Devin's obstruction,

at least to my satisfaction.

[OnDoutside]

16. Obstruction by Nunes yes, but it's more than that. It was Rachel who

drew our attention to what Page said to Chris Hayes.... and the potentially draws Ryan in as well.

[Progressive dog]

19. The Page interview with Hayes

sure could make a suspicious person think Ryan might be involved. Rachel is good at reporting and explaining.

[flying_wahini]

13. But then Carter/Trump team was under surveillance since Oct '16 then the $$ Putin distributed

Via the NRA donations would be enough to hang them all. And the wiretapping goes along with it.
Ryan/McConnell knew (or surmised) where the $ was coming from and didn't declare it. Devin was personally responsible for passing out lots more CASH (not as easily traced) & other NRA 'checks'were donated to campaigns.
To me this explains why Comey went after Hillary because if he didn't the Repugs would guess he was tracking them. In the end Comey didn't want to out HRC because it would blow his cover that he was onto the Putin/Trump connections. Also Comey thought HRC was going to win by a landslide and it wouldn't matter, anyway. I don't think Comey ever thought she could lose it.

IMO I believe ALL those meeting were taped. ALL OF THEM.

[OnDoutside]

14. But they may not have known Carter was under continuous FISA warrants until much later.

And don't forget there was a major bombshell when Papadopoulos was indicted - they never knew he had been cooperating since last July. They may have thought Page was the only potential flip , and sought to promise him they'd get him off if he kept quiet.

[LiberalFighter]

22. Ohhhh Yes!

[Tatiana]

17. Lawrence O'Donnell: "Why Did He Do It?"

His argument begins around 5:07. O'Donnell contends (and I agree) that all of Nunes's actions are dictated by Paul Ryan.

We are looking all over, but we need to keep our eyes on Trump and Lyin' Ryan.

[hydrolastic]

20. Ryan's Role

The Field is vast when it comes to speculating what Ryan knew/knows. From the RNC money and the NRA to the Nunes fiasco. He's in there somewhere with his half smirk on.