What is going to happen next on Breaking Bad?

[patrice]

For example, what is going to happen to the character Hank Schrader, played by Dean Norris?

Your own plot hypotheses???

If you don't know what this is about, you can check it out at: http://www.amctv.com/shows/breaking-bad

[HereSince1628]

1. Is this an effort to get GD away from Aurora related posts?

[patrice]

5. Nope. I am pretty much for people working their stuff out . . .

though I have hidden the gungeon from my feed & I'm not jumping into any Aurora threads.

BB is about the only tv I watch, other than the golden oldies. It's kind of interesting for the social issues it encompasses and a look inside the methamphetamine industry that it provides.

I can get Glenn Close in Damages with my Roku, so I will probably watch that from start to finish again sometime.

[alcibiades_mystery]

2. I loved Hank's face at the end of the last episode with "Right under his nose..."

It's as if it suddenly dawned on him that investigation begins at home.

There has certainly been a weird disconnect throughout the series between Hank as super-investigator and Hank as completely oblivious to Walt's doings. Even if there were some flashes of "Huh" from time to time (when he reads WW in Gale's journal, when Walt notes that Heisenberg might still be out there, etc.), Hank is almost constitutionally blind to Walt's activities, whereas he has something like investigator superman vision on everything else. Certainly, this aspect of the show was well-supported by Walt's docility vis-a-vis Hank in seasons 1 and 2, but still. That look at the end of the last episode maybe signals the scales starting to fall off his eyes, the Great Schraderian Conversion. Yes, Walt has been acting rather strangely, and, really, is that gambling story even marginally believable?

[patrice]

7. Yes. Affection can really affect how you think. & then there's Hank's pity for Walt & being in the

family protector role.

I need to work out the international connections to Gus better. That's what got me to wondering other stuff about Hank, because he has just touched some of that.

[Nevernose]

3. We finished season 3 last night

I think what makes the show so fascinating is the unintentional moral ambiguity. They keep trying to make Skylar sympathetic, but it backfires in the creators horribly. Another example is the murder of Badger and Tomas; instead of thinking "gosh, that's terrible," my wife and I were left thinking, "you know, if it were legalized, none of that would have happened.". Great show.

[BOG PERSON]

4. the show is pretty morally UNambiguous imho

i mean, it's very clear that WW is a 100% wicked person who brings ruin to everybody he's close to. it's very clear that the "love" for his "family" that supposedly drives his actions, is perverted and destructive. at this point in the series (the start of season 5) WW is basically doomed and he deserves to lose everything.

[patrice]

10. Predictable.

[patrice]

12. BTW, I have never noticed anything even slightly h about your o. nt

[Nevernose]

14. You just defined moral ambiguity:

The love for his family is twisted and perverted. That's a whole lot of ambiguity right there. Using the illicit drug money to fund his and Hank's treatment is morally ambiguous. Skyler's hatred of what Hank is doing but desire for the money to take care of her family is morally ambiguous. An example of what I think the creators intended to be clear cut but isn't comes when Hank is through interviewing a suspect. He says something to the effect of, "That guy's a waste of human life. He spends all day thinking about meth." yet what's Hank's whole professional life devoted to? Thinking about meth.

You're right about one thing, though: although we're only getting to season 4 tonight, Walt is becoming more and more of an asshole, and it is becoming harder and harder to sympathize with him. He's the very definition of antihero.

[BOG PERSON]

24. i dunno

WW's love for his family i dont find particularly ambiguous, i see that as sort of a lame rationalization for the awful things he does. that "anything's alright if youre doing it for family" way of thinking is standard mafia morality, isnt it? yet nobody looks at the mafia in shades of grey, except people who are in the mafia themselves.

skyler's hatred of walt but desire for the money i see as an instance of hypocrisy. she is corrupt and it's going to eat at her because getting to the top of the meth trade is not life-affirming for her the way it is for walt.

i agree that the motivations of these characters are complex, but the consequences of their actions are catastrophically simple, and it is my impression that the people making the show want us to judge them in light of the consequences of their actions. because they've taken enough time to show whaat those consequences are (e.g. the plane crash, the meth-head parents, hank's paralysis)

wait until you finish the fourth season. i am positive you will agree w/ that WW has what's coming to him

[patrice]

33. That's a good observation: the anti-hero redux. Did you see Glenn Close in Damages? a female . . .

anti-hero attorney, with all of the moral ambiguity, but this time in service to a more morally correct goal, busting corporate corruption and in super-brain to super-brain combat with many powerful men.

[patrice]

8. LOVE the ambiguity + the traditional family nobility in Walt's character, including his relationship

to Jesse. And now Walt & Jesse are the closest thing to authentic man to man friendship that either of them has ever had.

Walt IS ill fated though, so it's going to be interesting to see how all of that works out.

Good writers! Good scripts. Good strong ensemble casting!

BB and Jon Stewart are about the only reason I'm keeping cable anymore.

[Incitatus]

38. You can watch full episodes of both shows on their sites. nt

[pokerfan]

17. Wait a minute... Badger is dead?

When did that happen?

[Nevernose]

20. No, sorry

The pudgy dude with the mohawk.

[pokerfan]

23. Oh yeah, Combo

I would be bummed if Badger got it.

Another satisfied client:

[lame54]

18. I'm almost through season 4

[Dawgs]

25. The last two episodes make season 4 (the worst so far) worth it.

[lame54]

27. 4 does play differently...

it's a season long arch as opposed to single episode stories that link together

[BOG PERSON]

6. skyler's going to commit suicide.

everybody else (except Walt Jr and the baby, and maybe Saul) is going to kill each other.

[patrice]

9. Uh, that would be politcally incorrect, but I bet you know that. :-)))

[pokerfan]

26. If Skyler had a gun

at the end of last Sunday's episode I wonder who'd she shoot, Walter or herself?

"It gets easier. I promise you that it does. What you're feeling right now, about Ted, everything. It'll pass. So when we do what we do it's for good reasons. And we've got nothing to worry about. And there's no better reason than family.

[BOG PERSON]

28. that last scene was absolutely chilling

bryan cranston is such an awesome actor.

[Incitatus]

39. I don't think she would leave her baby and Walt Jr. like that.

I expect her to take the kids and leave Walt.

[BOG PERSON]

41. i feel like she had a chance at one point to cut all ties w/ WW

but she turned it down for whatever reason. so that now, simply walking away from it all is not enough to atone for what she's done, or what she's enabled. you're probably right she won't commit suicide. maybe she'll finally tell everything to hank.

[pinboy3niner]

11. A top Romney advisor will make an outrageous racist statement in London

Oh, wait...that was last episode.

[patrice]

13. Hmmmm, in order to throw Hank off of the MONEY trail? or, Or, OR - to POINT to the money trail????

[pinboy3niner]

15. Oh...you mean THAT 'Breaking Bad'

I always get that mixed up with the Rmoney campaign, for some reason...

[patrice]

43. Oh yeah! Silly me. That's BREAKING really bad too! Sorry to be so slow. ;-)

[Dreamer Tatum]

16. Walt will eventually kill Hank

Skyler will likely vanish with the baby, if not the son as well.

The jump-forward in which Walt has his breakfast alone tends to imply that he is actually alone. I suspect that is the first scene of the last episode, where there is some sort of showdown and I imagine that Walt will be killed or will take his own life.

[bluedigger]

21. Walt will never take his own life.

The whole series has been about his rejection of that possibility. Hank will take him down.

[Dreamer Tatum]

22. I think Walt will find a creative way for Hank to die, this season.

Hank is getting too close, and offing him would be another milestone in Walt's transition.

[Incitatus]

37. I'm expecting Walt to kill hank.

I was thinking there will be some kind of confrontation that will quickly escalate and result in an up close and personal killing.

[patrice]

30. Or Hank kills Walt??? Or someone else kills Hank & Walt goes after them &, since we are in the

post-modern era here, THEY kill Walt and Jesse becomes the guy in Mexico who runs it all?

I have no idea what's going to happen to Skylar and the kids.

[Shrek]

40. No, Hank will kill Mike

And take his place as the new former cop / assistant drug kingpin.

[Dreamer Tatum]

42. No way. But Hank may indeed kill Mike.

Hank may learn about Walt but could let him go and then face the guilt of it...

lots of ways for it to go. But Hank will never turn.

[zappaman]

19. The only thing I know for sure

is that Walt will lose the one thing he has said he cares about practically every episode...his family.
HOW he will lose them is what keeps it interesting.

[patrice]

31. That has to happen. I don't believe the writers have anything else they can credibly do, so you're

right, it has to happen in some bizarre, but credible, way.

[RainDog]

29. Would love to see people in the TV Chat forum

to talk about BrBa.

There's a really nice recap of the last episode from Vulture there and a thread with lots of spoiler info that I started before this season began - and I've added episode promos too along the way.

[patrice]

32. You bet! I didn't know. Next time. Thanks for the info!

[Blue_In_AK]

34. I so absolutely love this show.

I hadn't watched it before, so we spent the past two months or however long it was catching up with the marathon. Now we're totally (ironically) "hooked."


Everyone knows this is the last season, right?

[spanone]

35. from the gundeon to the lounge......

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[Liberal_in_LA]

36. They'll be sitting in a restaurant then the screen will go dark... ala The Sopranos

or they'll gather in a church, and we'll find out it was some mystical mumbo jumbo thing... like 'Lost".