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What we know...and what Mueller knows (Original Post) syringis Feb 2018 OP
well if you don't know burnbaby Feb 2018 #1
Hello Burnbaby syringis Feb 2018 #6
Cue the Jaws theme... lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #2
I hear ya! FakeNoose Feb 2018 #7
Nice! lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #10
The problem I have with Meuller exboyfil Feb 2018 #3
We dont know what information Mueller got in the deal YessirAtsaFact Feb 2018 #4
Very simply, in my humble opinion, better Feb 2018 #5
There may be more charges coming later FakeNoose Feb 2018 #8
I'm sure that Mueller has taken all of this into consideration and knows exactly what he's doing EffieBlack Feb 2018 #11
YES! Excellent graphic Cha Feb 2018 #9

syringis

(5,101 posts)
6. Hello Burnbaby
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 11:54 AM
Feb 2018

1- it is not my chart, I found it on the net.

2- By experience. Only prosecutors knows all the elements.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
3. The problem I have with Meuller
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 11:29 AM
Feb 2018

is that Flynn's plea bargain involves a confession for a post-election action (lying to the FBI). I don't know why he didn't go with a charge that involved the campaign that occurred during the election. That would have had considerably more political weight (assuming he had such a charge to use).

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
4. We dont know what information Mueller got in the deal
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 11:34 AM
Feb 2018

It could have led to pre-election criminal conduct

better

(884 posts)
5. Very simply, in my humble opinion,
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 11:47 AM
Feb 2018

because the charge Flynn dropped at his feet happened to have occurred post-election. If he'd been caught lying to the FBI during the campaign, I'm pretty sure he would have been charged with it. In short, Mueller played the hand he was dealt.

And, as YessirAtsaFact (great username, by the way!) wisely noted, it's quite possible that Mueller discovered a great deal, including about crimes during the campaign, as a result of flipping Flynn. Flynn's post-election crime, in the context of the OP, was the tip of the iceburg. And just because the tip was post-election doesn't mean everything that can be traced up to it below the waterline was.

FakeNoose

(32,579 posts)
8. There may be more charges coming later
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 05:56 PM
Feb 2018

We don't know yet and Mueller isn't showing his hand. (Smart guy that Mueller.)
When Flynn pled guilty to the single charge it was clearly stated that there may be more later.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
11. I'm sure that Mueller has taken all of this into consideration and knows exactly what he's doing
Tue Feb 6, 2018, 11:56 PM
Feb 2018
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