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Factcheck.org can't take its head out of Romney's ass (updated)
Fact-Checkers: Case Not Closed On Romney’s Departure From Bain
Pema Levy
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The Associated Press offered new evidence Wednesday contradicting Romney’s claim that he had “no role whatsoever” at Bain once he left to run the 2002 Winter Olympic Games. TPM, the Boston Globe and others earlier produced SEC filings showing that Romney listed his “principal occupation” as “Managing Director of Bain Capital, Inc.” in 2000 and 2001.
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But the group FactCheck.org, which holds that there is no evidence that Romney took an active role in Bain after 1999, was unswayed by the AP’s new report.
“We would reassess our judgment should somebody come up with evidence that Romney took part in specific management decisions or had any active role (not just a title) at Bain after he left to head the Olympics,” FactCheck.org Director Brooks Jackson wrote July 12. “We’re still looking for it,” Jackson told TPM Wednesday.
Jackson argued that all the AP story showed was that Romney still had ownership, retained corporate titles and was negotiating a severance package — all of which was already known. “None of this shows he actually did what the Obama camp claims he did,” Jackson said, referring to ads that say Romney shipped jobs overseas. “Where is the evidence that Romney had any part in managing these companies that Bain acquired or invested in after 1999? There isn’t any. There is none.”
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http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/fact-checkers-romneys-departure-from-bain.php
Pema Levy
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The Associated Press offered new evidence Wednesday contradicting Romney’s claim that he had “no role whatsoever” at Bain once he left to run the 2002 Winter Olympic Games. TPM, the Boston Globe and others earlier produced SEC filings showing that Romney listed his “principal occupation” as “Managing Director of Bain Capital, Inc.” in 2000 and 2001.
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But the group FactCheck.org, which holds that there is no evidence that Romney took an active role in Bain after 1999, was unswayed by the AP’s new report.
“We would reassess our judgment should somebody come up with evidence that Romney took part in specific management decisions or had any active role (not just a title) at Bain after he left to head the Olympics,” FactCheck.org Director Brooks Jackson wrote July 12. “We’re still looking for it,” Jackson told TPM Wednesday.
Jackson argued that all the AP story showed was that Romney still had ownership, retained corporate titles and was negotiating a severance package — all of which was already known. “None of this shows he actually did what the Obama camp claims he did,” Jackson said, referring to ads that say Romney shipped jobs overseas. “Where is the evidence that Romney had any part in managing these companies that Bain acquired or invested in after 1999? There isn’t any. There is none.”
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http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/fact-checkers-romneys-departure-from-bain.php
The TPM piece mentions that even Glenn Kessler walked back his defense of Mitt.
Since FactCheck.org is determined to ignore all evidence in its lame defense of Romney, maybe the organization can reconcile these two statements:
Romney Interview Directly Contradicts His Previous Statements About Bain Tenure
By Igor Volsky
Mitt Romney told CBS News‘s Jan Crawford Friday evening that he did not attend Bain Capital meetings after he left the company in February of 1999 to run the Winter Olympics. But this answer appears to contradict sworn testimony he delivered in 2002 “as part of a hearing to determine whether he had sufficient residency status in Massachusetts to run for governor”:
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http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/07/13/516951/romney-interview-directly-contradicts-his-previous-statements-about-bain-tenure
By Igor Volsky
Mitt Romney told CBS News‘s Jan Crawford Friday evening that he did not attend Bain Capital meetings after he left the company in February of 1999 to run the Winter Olympics. But this answer appears to contradict sworn testimony he delivered in 2002 “as part of a hearing to determine whether he had sufficient residency status in Massachusetts to run for governor”:
– 2002: “(T)here were a number of social trips and business trips that brought me back to Massachusetts, board meetings, Thanksgiving and so forth.”
– 2012: “I was in Salt Lake City for three straight years. I don’t recall even coming back once to go to a Bain or management meeting. We were, I was out there running the Olympics and it was a full time job, I can tell you that.”
– 2012: “I was in Salt Lake City for three straight years. I don’t recall even coming back once to go to a Bain or management meeting. We were, I was out there running the Olympics and it was a full time job, I can tell you that.”
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http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/07/13/516951/romney-interview-directly-contradicts-his-previous-statements-about-bain-tenure
Yes, Romney Perjured Himself
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002960206
Upcated to add:
Romney’s Bain case crumbles a bit more
By Greg Sargent
The Associated Press reports this morning that Mitt Romney “stayed in regular contact” with his partners at Bain in the months after the 1999 date that he has given as the time he left the company. The story also claims he “continued to oversee his partnership stakes even as he disengaged from the firm, personally signing or approving a series of corporate and legal documents through the spring of 2001.”
The story doesn’t move the ball too much, but it adds to the information that complicates his case that he bears no responsibility for any of the controversial Bain deals that took place during that period — and that he played “no role whatsoever” with the firm.
Factcheck.org, which has been among the toughest critics of Obama’s efforts to tie Romney to those Bain years, took a look at the latest revelations, and offered a mixed verdict. Factcheck.org director Brooks Jackson had this to say to TPM:
As it happens, that is the argument that many Dems are making. Again: There are two separate questions here. The first is: Is there any evidence that Romney had a direct managerial role in the controversial deals in question? The second question is: Even if the answer to the first question is No, is it nonetheless fair to hold Romney partly responsible for — or associate him with — Bain’s activities during a period in which he was listed as the company’s CEO and chairman, particularly now that more evidence has emerged that he retained some kind of relationship with the company?
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/romneys-bain-case-crumbles-a-bit-more/2012/07/25/gJQA5nvP9W_blog.html
By Greg Sargent
The Associated Press reports this morning that Mitt Romney “stayed in regular contact” with his partners at Bain in the months after the 1999 date that he has given as the time he left the company. The story also claims he “continued to oversee his partnership stakes even as he disengaged from the firm, personally signing or approving a series of corporate and legal documents through the spring of 2001.”
The story doesn’t move the ball too much, but it adds to the information that complicates his case that he bears no responsibility for any of the controversial Bain deals that took place during that period — and that he played “no role whatsoever” with the firm.
Factcheck.org, which has been among the toughest critics of Obama’s efforts to tie Romney to those Bain years, took a look at the latest revelations, and offered a mixed verdict. Factcheck.org director Brooks Jackson had this to say to TPM:
“None of this shows he actually did what the Obama camp claims he did,” Jackson said, referring to ads that say Romney shipped jobs overseas. “Where is the evidence that Romney had any part in managing these companies that Bain acquired or invested in after 1999? There isn’t any. There is none.”
As for whether Romney is ultimately responsible for decisions made while he was still head of Bain, Brooks says that’s not his business.
“Look, if someone wants to argue that Romney had moral responsibility for decisions someone else made while he retained corporate titles, fine. We’ll leave judgments about moral responsibility to others.”
As for whether Romney is ultimately responsible for decisions made while he was still head of Bain, Brooks says that’s not his business.
“Look, if someone wants to argue that Romney had moral responsibility for decisions someone else made while he retained corporate titles, fine. We’ll leave judgments about moral responsibility to others.”
As it happens, that is the argument that many Dems are making. Again: There are two separate questions here. The first is: Is there any evidence that Romney had a direct managerial role in the controversial deals in question? The second question is: Even if the answer to the first question is No, is it nonetheless fair to hold Romney partly responsible for — or associate him with — Bain’s activities during a period in which he was listed as the company’s CEO and chairman, particularly now that more evidence has emerged that he retained some kind of relationship with the company?
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/romneys-bain-case-crumbles-a-bit-more/2012/07/25/gJQA5nvP9W_blog.html
Yeah, documents can show and people can cite involvement, but that's not good enough for FactCheck. Why? Because Romney said he wasn't involved, and it's not FactCheck's job to call Romney on his claims that he had no involvement as sole owner, chairman, CEO and President.
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Wow and thanks for the added info!!
and FactCheck must have gotten a BIG Check for their collusion. 
