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NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:30 PM Feb 2018

They Know

Despite their efforts to praise Trump, his administration, and his policies, the Republican powers-that-be know the truth.

They know Trump is a mentally-deficient, pathological liar who is totally unfit for office. They know he is a racist, a misogynist, and a sexual predator who has zero respect for women, POCs, the disabled, and veterans, along with people from “shithole countries”.

They know he has lowered our nation’s standing in the world, has distanced us from our traditional allies, and is not trusted by the countries who were once our staunchest supporters.

They know his policies are detrimental to our national security, our financial well-being, and our ability to protect ourselves from our enemies – foreign AND domestic.

They know he is too stupid to govern, and too self-serving to lead. They know his advisors and Cabinet appointees are incompetent, inept, and have no qualifications for the influential positions they hold.

They know he is totally ignorant of the workings of government, and is completely devoid of any knowledge whatsoever of how our international dealings operate.

They know he is a loose cannon whose own ego is more important than the welfare of those he swore to serve, and whose policies are detrimental to the citizenry he swore to protect.

They know he is an idiot, and many of his own party have called him so – but only behind closed doors.

They know his assault on the middle-class is literally ruining the lives of millions, and is preventing millions of hard-working Americans from surviving, no less getting ahead.

Above all else, they know that when it comes to Trump & Co’s ties to Russia – and all of the lies that have been told, and the cover-ups that have been exposed – there is a whole universe of “there” there.

They know ALL of this – and more. They read the same headlines we all read, they look at the same polls we look at. They see the same inane “tweets”, the bizarre statements, the humiliating behaviour of their “pResident” and his lackeys on the world stage.

They know. And that is the heartbreak of the Trump “presidency” – the fact that his own party knows beyond any doubt what damage is being done by the narcissistic buffoon they elected and continue to support. They know that people are suffering – like Dreamers who live in fear of being be deported, the sick who are facing death due to lack of healthcare, the down-and-out who can no longer rely on their government for any assistance – and yet Republicans persist in looking the other way as their fellow citizens suffer and die.

They know. And those who claim they don’t know are lying hypocrites. Many have decided to put party above country; many have simply decided to put their own financial and/or political interests above the nation they claim to love.

But they ALL KNOW. And after a year of scandal after daily scandal, news story after news story, headline after headline, any Republican who tells you otherwise is a collaborator – no different from those who collaborated with the Nazis and said of the concentration camps, ”Don’t blame us. We just didn’t know”.

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They Know (Original Post) NanceGreggs Feb 2018 OP
K&R n/t FSogol Feb 2018 #1
You have nailed it, my dear Nance! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2018 #2
K&R revmclaren Feb 2018 #3
Of course they know, dflprincess Feb 2018 #4
The sad, deplorable legacy of the Koch Brothers FakeNoose Feb 2018 #49
Have You Noticed... WiffenPoof Feb 2018 #66
Adolph and Uncle Joe Koch Hassler Feb 2018 #69
Yes, reading Democracy in Chains - staggering insight into what the Kochs asiliveandbreathe Feb 2018 #76
Plus tRump knows where the bodies are buried, so to speak and he'll take them all down SammyWinstonJack Feb 2018 #55
They just arent finished with their dastardly deeds. Grammy23 Feb 2018 #5
They have knowing and are lovin' it. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #6
Sure they know. They also all took the dirty Russian money! Drahthaardogs Feb 2018 #7
This is truth. volstork Feb 2018 #11
Pure poetry, To Every Season They Know of Treason Pepsidog Feb 2018 #8
+1000 triron Feb 2018 #20
Yes, they do MrScorpio Feb 2018 #9
Target has the nope shirt, onlyadream Feb 2018 #10
K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #12
Aiders. Abettors. Traitors. dchill Feb 2018 #13
YOU KNOW IT NANCE Skittles Feb 2018 #14
Can your articles be shared to other sites? NellieStarbuck Feb 2018 #15
As long as I am credited as the author ... NanceGreggs Feb 2018 #19
Thanks NellieStarbuck Feb 2018 #48
That's because they are all sociopaths also. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #16
It's capitalism, you know, that encourages sociopathy. Nearly all PatrickforO Feb 2018 #27
It sucks that we will end up killing all BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #32
There are different types of capitalism... TwistOneUp Feb 2018 #67
K&R... spanone Feb 2018 #17
The DONOR base knows, and they just don't care. Volaris Feb 2018 #18
Pox is registered as an entertainment entity as is Rash Limbaugh (NT) The Wizard Feb 2018 #42
Then they should be required by law to have the shows hosts personally Volaris Feb 2018 #53
And therefore every one of them is in electoral and legal jeopardy. lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #21
Yup cp Feb 2018 #22
They know! pandr32 Feb 2018 #23
Yes not fooled Feb 2018 #24
Yes, they do know. PatrickforO Feb 2018 #25
Maybe the Republican leaders know it (I am not convinced however)... jimmil Feb 2018 #26
They knew, and they didn't care. They didn't even bother to ask for his tax returns. dalton99a Feb 2018 #28
Amen. NT Bleacher Creature Feb 2018 #29
And they know that Republican voters will still fall in line... Beartracks Feb 2018 #30
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Feb 2018 #31
"mentally-deficient, pathological liar who is totally unfit for office" Gothmog Feb 2018 #33
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤ NurseJackie Feb 2018 #34
Your pieces always hit the nail on the head. 3catwoman3 Feb 2018 #35
Republicans win when they put a 'useful tool' in the WH. Say G.W.Bush, and now Trump. YOHABLO Feb 2018 #36
K&R betsuni Feb 2018 #37
K&R DangerousRhythm Feb 2018 #38
****** Cha Feb 2018 #39
Spot on, as usual. joshdawg Feb 2018 #40
They know all this and don't care because The Wizard Feb 2018 #41
(im)Plausible Deniability Dem_in_Nebr. Feb 2018 #43
Well said and true. MarianJack Feb 2018 #44
every point so true Rene Feb 2018 #45
True, they don't believe their own arguments treestar Feb 2018 #46
+1,000 malaise Feb 2018 #47
K&R. Paladin Feb 2018 #50
And we know they will not deal with his crimes when Mueller releases his findings BSdetect Feb 2018 #51
New York DownriverDem Feb 2018 #59
Paul Ryan and the GOP knew about Trump and Russia and still went right along w/it. Botany Feb 2018 #52
Dead On, Nance ProfessorGAC Feb 2018 #54
You are spot on jimmyzvoice Feb 2018 #56
This is the most heart breaking coeur_de_lion Feb 2018 #57
They may know, but DownriverDem Feb 2018 #58
+++++++++++++ crazylikafox Feb 2018 #60
Draw up The List, freeze all their assets, ban them from ever running for public office again. ancianita Feb 2018 #61
Cue 'Everybody Knows' by Leonard Cohen. blm Feb 2018 #62
We KNOW MFM008 Feb 2018 #63
yes they know, and they don't care vlyons Feb 2018 #64
minngal marieo1 Feb 2018 #65
k and r niyad Feb 2018 #68
Agreed Firestorm49 Feb 2018 #70
Scarey to think but I'd say maybe a third of GOP reps do NOT know LiberalLovinLug Feb 2018 #71
Great rant as usual K&R n/t lordsummerisle Feb 2018 #72
Everyone knows apkhgp Feb 2018 #73
standing ovation! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2018 #74
They know, and they don't care! Initech Feb 2018 #75
K&R orangecrush Feb 2018 #77
NG is a national treasure Funtatlaguy Feb 2018 #78

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
4. Of course they know,
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:36 PM
Feb 2018

they just don't care. They will use Trump to achieve all the Koch brothers' dreams and will all be well rewarded for it.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
49. The sad, deplorable legacy of the Koch Brothers
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:58 AM
Feb 2018

These two men have messed up our country more than Putin ever could.



Hassler

(3,376 posts)
69. Adolph and Uncle Joe Koch
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 02:50 PM
Feb 2018

The Koch's values are in where their wealth came from: Stalin and Hitler.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
76. Yes, reading Democracy in Chains - staggering insight into what the Kochs
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:42 PM
Feb 2018

have in mind for our country - The Deep History of the Radical Right's Stealth Plan for America - Nancy MacLean..

Can only read so much of it at a time....

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
55. Plus tRump knows where the bodies are buried, so to speak and he'll take them all down
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:26 AM
Feb 2018

with him. Only conclusion that makes any sense.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
5. They just arent finished with their dastardly deeds.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:41 PM
Feb 2018

Once those are accomplished, he is as good as gone. But the damage will last for decades.
Oh, and the stench from the holy hell they cooked up together will cling to them. There is not enough Lysol in the Universe to rid them of the smell.

sprinkleeninow

(20,237 posts)
6. They have knowing and are lovin' it.
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:49 PM
Feb 2018

Not gonna do a frikken thing either to rectify it.

He's fulfilling their long wrought scheme.

I continue to wait for The Excellent Mr. Mueller.

Thx for all your OPs.

~sprink
💙🇺🇸💪🗽

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
7. Sure they know. They also all took the dirty Russian money!
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:53 PM
Feb 2018

So they put up with it. When the truth comes out, they are all in trouble.

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
16. That's because they are all sociopaths also.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:05 AM
Feb 2018

A sociopath is someone who is completely aware of what is right and what is wrong behavior but they choose the "wrong" behavior regardless of who it harms as long as it benefits their own specific, personal agenda.
https://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
In 2001 I asked my psychologist what a sociopath was since I was sure I was dating one and he explained it to me. The one thing that I'll never forget is that he told me, "Most of the politicians are sociopaths too" trying to comfort me in a way.. I think this applies to today's GOP more than just about any other time in my life.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
27. It's capitalism, you know, that encourages sociopathy. Nearly all
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:31 AM
Feb 2018

CEOs are sociopaths, just because the cannot fulfill their fiduciary responsibility under their corporate charters without being so.

We're a funny species - the only one I know besides lemmings that rush blindly toward self-destruction.

Why is that, I wonder?

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
32. It sucks that we will end up killing all
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:59 AM
Feb 2018

animal and plant life too. Climate Change will be the nail in the coffin.

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
67. There are different types of capitalism...
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 02:10 PM
Feb 2018

Personal capitalism, where one tries to make enough money to retire at an early age is not necessarily "a bad thing".

Being a greedy fscking pig, trying to monopolize markets, cutting other people's throats economically, laying off people just to keep your stock prices high for bragging rights in your country club's locker room - this type of capitalism is shit.

Used to be going public was a way of raising capital for big projects that benefitted many peeps. Now it's a rite of passage for power-hungry would-be "elites". Nine out of ten times, IMHO, going public is unnecessary.

And the real sad part of it is the frat boys and the fundagelicals control all the VC firms, and thus control who can go public.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
18. The DONOR base knows, and they just don't care.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:07 AM
Feb 2018

Reduction or diminishment of Govt empowers them and their private enterprises.
As for the voter base...Some of them might know, but I think a lot of them dont. That in and of itself is fucking unforgivable, but let's lay blame where it's TRULY due...at the feet of our nation's propaganda outlets. Propaganda has always been legal in america (first amendment, and facts as counterweights) because it was believed the general populace was minimally educated enough to smell the difference. After this debacle of a presidency (and you thought president Cheney was bad), perhaps that assumption and the legality it allows will be allowed to change.

For me, I'd prefer a law that states that if you're gonna run a newsroom, it has to operate as a non-profit, or it can't be called news. If you wanna make money for shareholders, then you have to call it entertainment. Before and after every commercial break. And if not, have fun in prison.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
53. Then they should be required by law to have the shows hosts personally
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:07 AM
Feb 2018

Read a disclaimer stating such before and after every commercial break.
Rush would be off the air in 3 weeks, because he'd refuse to do so.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. And therefore every one of them is in electoral and legal jeopardy.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:09 AM
Feb 2018

Sweep them away and send them to Gitmo.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
24. Yes
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:26 AM
Feb 2018

the predators who are backing dump because he enables their sociopathic agenda are the same type of human who in previous eras was the vandal, the invader, the slaughterer, and the plunderer of their fellow beings.

Modern society just enables them to act at arm's length and be able to distance themselves from the consequences of their actions. The evil is no less, however.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
25. Yes, they do know.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:28 AM
Feb 2018

They have known all along. They do not care if we die. They do not care if the earth dies. All they care for is money and power, the two great illusions of this life.

When the tables turn and they are on trial for their crimes against humanity, we shall not forget their hatred of those who are different. We shall not forget their treason. We shall not forget their rape of our treasury so the rich can have a little more. We shall not forget those who have died unable to pay for basic medical care. We shall not forget the homeless veteran. We shall not forget those maimed in harm's way. We shall not forget those who have gone hungry, or have lived under grinding poverty. We shall not forget those whose lives are devastated when their employer moved overseas. We won't forget the desolate cities and small, dead towns. We shall not forget the crumbling bridges, highways and dams.

No...we won't forget.

jimmil

(629 posts)
26. Maybe the Republican leaders know it (I am not convinced however)...
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:30 AM
Feb 2018

But you stick your nose into some folks conversations about Gump and there are a lot of people who are completely convinced Obama was a liar, a traitor, and black (perhaps the worse sin in their eyes), while Gump is not being given the chance, the media is bought and paid for by George Soros (he must be the richest man in the world by far to do this), and he has cut "our" taxes by tens of thousands. I have had evidence in my hand (ie. the Clinton charity IRS forms that are available to the public since it is tax free corporation) and tried to show some Gump supporters and they refused to even LOOK at them. They said it was all a lie by Obama and Hillary. They are willfully stupid. They want to be stupid. They love being stupid. They cannot stand for anyone to tell them they are wrong. They will support Gump, Republicans, Libertarians, Communist, anyone against the Democratic party and it's policies, as they are marched off to slave camps. And they will love it and love them still.



Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
30. And they know that Republican voters will still fall in line...
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:42 AM
Feb 2018

... because the airways are full of "BoogeyBoogeyBoogeyHillaryObamaLibrulComingToTakeYourGunsEmailsBenghaziiiii
UppityFolksBeAfraidSoshulistMedicineTreeHuggerFeminaziJayzusBiblezFreedumb!!!!"

======

Gothmog

(145,131 posts)
33. "mentally-deficient, pathological liar who is totally unfit for office"
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 01:01 AM
Feb 2018

that is a perfect description of trump

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
36. Republicans win when they put a 'useful tool' in the WH. Say G.W.Bush, and now Trump.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 02:17 AM
Feb 2018

The rich are out buying new houses and yachts. Republicans don't give damn about the country, they care about money.

The Wizard

(12,542 posts)
41. They know all this and don't care because
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 08:07 AM
Feb 2018

Trump promised to keep the coloreds in their place. The stunning vitriol and hatred these people carry is poisoning our nation's soul and undermining us for the benefit of the puppet master Putin.
Hatred and fear are powerful motivators.

Dem_in_Nebr.

(301 posts)
43. (im)Plausible Deniability
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:30 AM
Feb 2018

Kind of reminds me of a song I heard in the 60's and 70's:

We didn't know (Tom Paxton)

We didn't know at all.
We didn't see a thing
You can't hold us to blame.
What could we do?
It was a terrible shame
but we can't bear the blame
Oh no, not us, we didn't know.

Link to lyrics
[link:http://www.mydfz.com/Paxton/lyrics/wdk.htm|

treestar

(82,383 posts)
46. True, they don't believe their own arguments
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:50 AM
Feb 2018

Or so-called arguments. They think others can't see the holes in logic and that they can get others to their side with these fallacious arguments. That makes them feel powerful.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
59. New York
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:48 AM
Feb 2018

New York is having their own investigation. That will not end when Mueller releases his findings. trump will not be able to stop it or pardon anyone when it comes to the New York investigation.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
52. Paul Ryan and the GOP knew about Trump and Russia and still went right along w/it.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:03 AM
Feb 2018
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/paul-ryan-keeps-it-family-kevin-mccarthy-russia-trump

Paul Ryan Keeps It All in the Family

In the transcript published by the Post, McCarthy speculates that the Russians hacked the Democratic National Committee’s computers and, in the process, discovered whatever opposition-research materials the Democrats had gathered on Trump.

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy said, according to Entous, a superb reporter who heard a tape recording of the colloquy. “Swear to God.”

Dana Rohrabacher is a Republican from California with a peculiar amalgam of views: pro-marijuana, dubious about climate change, pro-torture. For this last position, in 2007, Keith Olbermann awarded him his periodic “Worst Person in the World” award, on his old MSNBC show. Like Trump, Rohrabacher has been highly solicitous of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Last year, Politico ran an article on Rohrabacher called “Putin’s Favorite Congressman.”

In the Post piece, McCarthy’s remark is met with laughter, and Ryan cautions his colleagues, “This is an off the record . . . No leaks! . . All right?”

And then, amid more laughter, Ryan says, “This is how we know we’re a real family here.”

ProfessorGAC

(65,001 posts)
54. Dead On, Nance
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:11 AM
Feb 2018

And, there have to be some who actually do know that the damage isn't worth the minimal amount they've actually gotten accomplished for their paymasters.

And, it the economy turns down, and we end up expanding wars, they're going to pay for it within the same crowds of people who put them where they are.

Some of them who are still planning to stay have got to start saying no and worry less about being primaried. Every R district in the country is dominated by knuckle draggers.

jimmyzvoice

(159 posts)
56. You are spot on
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:27 AM
Feb 2018

The scariest thing about all of this is not Trump but the Republicans that support him no matter what.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
57. This is the most heart breaking
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:34 AM
Feb 2018

Aspect of the Fredo "presidency". They will do anything to stay in power, even allow the buffoon to destroy our standing and peoples lives.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
58. They may know, but
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:45 AM
Feb 2018

their supporters, if they know, don't care. For others, it's all about overturning Roe v Wade. That's all that matters to them. Not to mention that repub religious voters were promised pence if they voted for trump. pence is a radical religious RWNJ. The court cases will file themselves if pence becomes president. Focus and vote for the Dems next November. We do not have time for infighting. Get the Dems wins and then we can fight for the changes we want.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
64. yes they know, and they don't care
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:16 PM
Feb 2018

They don't care, because all they care about is money. They are completely degenerate

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
65. minngal
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 12:19 PM
Feb 2018

Of course, they all know and probably most of the people that voted for him know and just choose to ignore it!!

Firestorm49

(4,032 posts)
70. Agreed
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 02:56 PM
Feb 2018

The hard part is for them to get their heads out of their asses far enough to see daylight. You see what you want to see. You believe what you want to believe. Facts be damned. Unfortunately, we are all guilty.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
71. Scarey to think but I'd say maybe a third of GOP reps do NOT know
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:26 PM
Feb 2018

And have convinced themselves that he is not an idiot, but a genius. Mostly because they are as dumb or dumber than than Dolt45 and he looks like a king compared to themselves. The Freedom caucus, and their compatriots.

And yes, the other 2/3 are well aware of his cognitive abilities.
But they will continue to milk what they can from their ill-gotten majority, scraping the last bit from the treasury and of any future treasure into the pig trough and gorge themselves of as much as they can, while also setting up laws that will take years, decades to undo, especially with their stolen justice on the SCOTUS.

apkhgp

(1,068 posts)
73. Everyone knows
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:57 PM
Feb 2018

I wish I could write as well as you do.
I wish I could editorialize politics, the social scene, and what 45 is doing to this country.
This is one website, but it has become a harbinger of truth at a time when smoke and mirrors are being used to destroy this country.

I am really not one for vast words on what I see happening today. I leave that to more accomplished writers. I am thankful that I can spend some time here sending a couple of my thought out over cyberspace.

Thank You

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
74. standing ovation!
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:19 PM
Feb 2018

Wow, second standing ovation I’ve given tonight, Nance!

This Kicks!!!!!!!!!! Ass!!!!!!!!!

Initech

(100,065 posts)
75. They know, and they don't care!
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:27 PM
Feb 2018

They are currently drunk with power and they won't give it up easily. And unfortunately when they sober up, the orgy of destruction they will have left behind will be too huge to clean up.

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