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Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 03:09 PM Feb 2018

Why a person who commits domestic violence should not be allowed to deal

with secure information or national intelligence.

When a person hits another person, it is a sign that the hitter is impulsive, in other words, lacks self control.

We all are taught and know that we should not hit other people. At least, most of us are.

If the part of our brain that controls our conduct, the rational part that thinks about consequences or possible consequences of our actions, is in charge, we don't hit others. We talk to them. We might hold out our hands and hug them and say we are hurt, but we don't hit.

Sometimes that rational part of our brain is considered to be our conscience, maybe we refer to it as our ethical or moral compass or our consciousness of right and wrong, of socially correct or acceptable and not socially correct or acceptable behavior, is in charge of our body and ourselves, we don't hit other people.

But if we lose control, if our rational, conscious mind, if our conscience, if our love and compassion for others is momentarily or longterm not in charge of our behavior, we do the first thing that comes to us, and for some people, that is hitting another person or an animal out of anger, when that person is angry.

The hitting is a symptom of a bigger problem, lack of self-control, impulsiveness. We say the person lacks "judgment."

And it is this other problem, the indication that hitting others is a sign of impulsiveness and lack of self-control, a tendency to react irrationally to a challenging situation or a crisis or a threat to one's authority that is one of the major reasons that a person who has committed domestic violence or hit or shot at another person should not have access to highly classified information.

The hitting itself is a problem in and of itself. But the lack of self-control of a person who commits violence, especially domestic violence which is more common than you would think, indicates a lack of judgment. Such a person cannot be trusted to act rationally.

That is why we differentiate between violent acts in self-defense which we justify and assault and attacks and violence that is not in self-defense.

Please comment. I tried to say this clearly, but I don't know whether I succeeded.

We don't want people with questionable self-control being involved in our intelligence services. I say that as one who never worked in intelligence. But I think it would take supreme self-control and good judgment to have anything to do with it.

We hear a lot about the "deep state," but it is the fact that only the most mature among us qualify to work in organizations like the CIA and FBI that help to make it safe for us to have those organizations.

That is why Porter and others who have not passed security checks should not have access to classified information.

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Why a person who commits domestic violence should not be allowed to deal (Original Post) Sophia4 Feb 2018 OP
Don't forget the whole susceptible to blackmail issue as well. nt HopeAgain Feb 2018 #1
My thoughts exactly (but credit to Sophia4 for good writing) MaryMagdaline Feb 2018 #2
Excellent. Just excellent. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #3
That, and the fact that the FBI is specifically concerned with whether someone The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #4

MontanaMama

(23,289 posts)
3. Excellent. Just excellent.
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 03:14 PM
Feb 2018

I would add that anyone who justifies domestic violence by another is not a rational thinker either and also may lack self control.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,538 posts)
4. That, and the fact that the FBI is specifically concerned with whether someone
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 03:22 PM
Feb 2018

can be blackmailed. Any time you have a skeleton in your closet that might cause great embarrassment if it became public, you're blackmailable, which would make you a poor security risk. Rob Porter's lack of self-control seems to be limited to his close relationships with women. While this behavior is both reprehensible and indefensible, it does not seem to have bled over into his professional life, at least not yet. I'm not convinced that he really can't control his anger at all, but that he can't control it only with respect to a woman with whom he is personally involved. Maybe this comes from a sense of male privilege or his belief that he has an absolute right to dominate and control a woman - and his anger is triggered when, in his mind, she isn't submissive or obedient enough. His workplace behavior might have been, and apparently was, perfectly normal. He might never fly off the handle at work, even at a female co-worker. I suspect his anger issues have to do with women he thinks he "owns."

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