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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI for one am perfectly fine with Anglo-Saxon culture being tossed in the trash
There would be no crying from me over it.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,656 posts)Yavin4
(35,427 posts)BTW, the name "Normans" doesn't really strike fear. "Huns", "Persians", "Vikings", now those are cool names. "Normans"? Not so much.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)They were Vikings permitted to settle there by the French king (Charlemagne or LouisII?) in order to defend the coast from other Vikings. Their leader, Rollo, became RobertI Duke of Normandy after baptism. He was the great great great grandfather of William the Conqueror.
All the invading tribes- Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Danes, Vikings, were all of Northern Germanic origin, and modern english language had its origins in German.
Not to disrespect the Celts, but when the Romans withdrew from England it left a void in government and defense. Many northern Europeans moved in and set up small kingdoms. The Angles and Saxons were the ones who were ultimately successful in driving out the Danes and eventually uniting the country under a single government that organized common law, developed a means of record keeping for taxation, and provided a national defense.
Yavin4
(35,427 posts)However, Sir Mitt of Romney refused to have his taxes recorded for fear of mocking.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)It was an agrarian society, land was wealth. In theory, the King owned all the land. However, it was impossible for one person to oversee. The King doled out land to Lords as rewards for loyalty and service. The peasants worked for their lords, who gave them "protection" and alloted them a small place for a vegetable garden, cow, and shack. A percentage of profits from the estates were sent to the shire Dukes. The King's representative, the "Shire Reeve" (later- "sheriff" appraised the profits, recconciled the number with what the area should be producing, and sent the taxes to the King. The Shire Reeve also kept an eye on the properties the King still held title to, keeping out squatters, poachers,etc. So basically, if you were paying taxes it was because the King gave you land... ignoring the forced labor of the peasants. The Kings grew wealthy, despite squandering vast amounts of money on war (which did have a payoff if they won... more land = more taxes), and elaborate estates and entourages. Not until the emergence of a wealth accumulating, relatively landless, mercantile class did there begin a resentment of taxes, and a demand for representation in government, largely in order to limit King's spending and taxing. In the Dane- held region, roughly central Britain, there was also a tax to the Danish King... Danegeld... that was assessed to all.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,294 posts)This phrase is alleged to have been the litany of despair raised up in every medieval church and monastic institution, starting after the first Viking raid upon Britain and continuing during the years of Scandinavian attacks upon Western Christendom. It has been shown, however, that the phrase is apocryphal 1.
No 9th century text has ever been discovered containing these words, although numerous medieval litanies and prayers contain general formulas for deliverance against unnamed enemies. The closest documentable phrase is a single sentence, taken from an antiphony for churches dedicated to St. Vaast or St. Medard: Summa pia gratia nostra conservando corpora et cutodita, de gente fera Normannica nos libera, quae nostra vastat, Deus, regna, "Our supreme and holy Grace, protecting us and ours, deliver us, God, from the savage race of Northmen which lays waste our realms"
http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/vikfury.shtml
Plenty of fear, whether at the time, or post-dated.
flamingdem
(39,312 posts)Pan Celtic flag
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1278319/Celtic-loyalists-push-ban-English-flags-Cornwall.html
Celtic supporters push for ban of 'foreign' English flags in Cornwall
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1278319/Celtic-loyalists-push-ban-English-flags-Cornwall.html#ixzz21gsM3udV
Cornish flag wavers
muriel_volestrangler
(101,294 posts)The point is that a few people in Cornwall wanted to boycott shops using or selling the St. George's flag of England. This is the Cornish flag:
flamingdem
(39,312 posts)but didn't read the article carefully. I know about the black and white flag for Kernow and thought - oh this is the color version I've never seen. Truth is I haven't paid attention to the St. George flag. I'm a cornophile not an anglophile.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)An idiot thing to say.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,829 posts)Swede
(33,230 posts)nt
Chan790
(20,176 posts)The Vandals' brand of surf-rock-influenced jokey pop-punk is too cute for my tastes.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Well...cyber-goth, anyway.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Carthage delenda est..
Autumn
(45,012 posts)I thought they just stole stuff from everyone else.
flvegan
(64,407 posts)Nope. Never gets old.
Dr. Strange
(25,917 posts)Judges say 10 points.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)DearAbby
(12,461 posts)fer crissakes. Granted, it isn't sharks with friggin lasers....but let me enjoy the moment.
ananda
(28,854 posts).. with some Irish and German in the mix.
I like my Irish Catholic and Anglo-Saxon cultural heritage.
But I don't like anyone using it to promote a racist agenda.
That really disgusts me.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Downton Abbey, Midsomer Murders and on and on and on.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)the trash.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)tossing your thread in the trash can.