Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:28 PM

Joe941 (2,848 posts)

It all makes sense (Jill Stein)

In the aftermath of the election Jill Stein started a fund raising campaign for recounts in 3 states. There was a big push right here on DU to donate. Question: do you think this could have been Russians infiltrating DU?

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It all makes sense (Jill Stein) (Original post)	Joe941	Feb 2018	OP
How many millions did she walk away with.	Wellstone ruled	Feb 2018	#1
What's the conversion rate	orangecrush	Feb 2018	#4
Conversion rate is this,She got to keep every damn penny.	Wellstone ruled	Feb 2018	#7
Yup.	orangecrush	Feb 2018	#15
Please elaborate.	orangecrush	Feb 2018	#2
After the election the esteemed (puke) Ms Stein raised money for a recount in WI, MI,	rufus dog	Feb 2018	#10
Thank you!	orangecrush	Feb 2018	#14
She ran a phony bid for election recounts, KNOWING that it couldn't change the outcome	pnwmom	Feb 2018	#11
Thank you!	orangecrush	Feb 2018	#13
She got to keep all her Funds she raised	Wellstone ruled	Feb 2018	#18
Thanks.	orangecrush	Feb 2018	#19
False on all accounts.	former9thward	Feb 2018	#20
She said she was donating the millions to her new "Election Integrity" project.	pnwmom	Feb 2018	#22
Which is similar to what other politicians do who retire.	former9thward	Feb 2018	#28
will except your reasoning .	Wellstone ruled	Feb 2018	#29
They have been here long before that.	gordianot	Feb 2018	#3
Like trump, she was laughing @ her supporters... all the way to the bank! nt	ecstatic	Feb 2018	#5
I have no doubt a (very) few of our DU "friends" are not what they purport to be.	Stinky The Clown	Feb 2018	#6
In all likely hood it was the Rooskies who hacked DU too	Joe941	Feb 2018	#8
Speaking of.....	mchill	Feb 2018	#9
I donated to her recount campaign. No one else was doing anything about it particularly on this	politicaljunkie41910	Feb 2018	#12
Wouldnt be surprised at all if Stein is swept up in all of this at some point.	BannonsLiver	Feb 2018	#17
I donated also and I was a volunteer for the Clinton campaign	triron	Feb 2018	#21
The reason we know she did have a nefarious motive was because she presented	pnwmom	Feb 2018	#23
I don't know.	Willie Pep	Feb 2018	#16
Why do you think she went to Russia and ate dinner with Gen. Flynn and Putin? n/t	pnwmom	Feb 2018	#24
Good point.	Willie Pep	Feb 2018	#25
oh puhleeeese	shanny	Feb 2018	#26
Wow, apparently you dont watch much news where	R B Garr	Feb 2018	#27

Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:30 PM

Wellstone ruled (34,661 posts)

1. How many millions did she walk away with.

7-15 million.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:34 PM

orangecrush (16,062 posts)

4. What's the conversion rate

to rubles?

She probably has a nice dacha ready for her by now, right next to Snowden.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:37 PM

Wellstone ruled (34,661 posts)

7. Conversion rate is this,She got to keep every damn penny.

Notice how her so called Running Mate has melted into the New Mexico Desert.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:28 PM

orangecrush (16,062 posts)

15. Yup.

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Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:32 PM

orangecrush (16,062 posts)

2. Please elaborate.

I'm not quite sure of what you are driving at.

I'm a bit slow when it comes to subtle nuance, further explanation would be very helpful.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:43 PM

rufus dog (8,419 posts)

10. After the election the esteemed (puke) Ms Stein raised money for a recount in WI, MI,

she raised the money, then basically walked away.

And to answer the OP, yes I thought at the time that was her final payoff from Putin.

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:27 PM

orangecrush (16,062 posts)

14. Thank you!

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:43 PM

pnwmom (107,335 posts)

11. She ran a phony bid for election recounts, KNOWING that it couldn't change the outcome

because in one of the three states she had ALREADY missed the key deadline. (And all three states would have to be flipped in order for Hillary to win.)

When money started pouring in, she doubled and then tripled the amount she said was necessary. And at the end, when her partial recounts had been completed, she had millions left over -- that she got to keep for future election activities.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:26 PM

orangecrush (16,062 posts)

13. Thank you!

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:56 PM

Wellstone ruled (34,661 posts)

18. She got to keep all her Funds she raised

that were not spent on a recount. Not a bad payday. How many Millions? Since her campaign has been terminated she does not have any more required filings.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 12:11 AM

orangecrush (16,062 posts)

19. Thanks.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 12:37 AM

former9thward (28,147 posts)

20. False on all accounts.

Last edited Sat Feb 17, 2018, 08:58 AM - Edit history (1)

A federal candidate can't keep money they raised for any personal use. It has to be used for future campaigns or donated to other campaigns or similar organizations. When a campaign is terminated it still has to file with the FEC until there is no money left in its account. The campaign organizations of Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Bush, Kerry, McCain, Romney and Obama are still filing with the FEC.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 12:45 AM

pnwmom (107,335 posts)

22. She said she was donating the millions to her new "Election Integrity" project.

Which she will control.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #22)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 08:59 AM

former9thward (28,147 posts)

28. Which is similar to what other politicians do who retire.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 01:35 PM

Wellstone ruled (34,661 posts)

29. will except your reasoning .

Know otherwise. Not going to argue.

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Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:33 PM

gordianot (14,967 posts)

3. They have been here long before that.

I suspect they are everywhere.

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Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:35 PM

ecstatic (30,601 posts)

5. Like trump, she was laughing @ her supporters... all the way to the bank! nt

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Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:35 PM

Stinky The Clown (65,788 posts)

6. I have no doubt a (very) few of our DU "friends" are not what they purport to be.

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Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:37 PM

Joe941 (2,848 posts)

8. In all likely hood it was the Rooskies who hacked DU too

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Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:39 PM

mchill (906 posts)

9. Speaking of.....

The night of the election and for weeks following, DU was down. Did I miss the explanation?

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Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:53 PM

politicaljunkie41910 (3,335 posts)

12. I donated to her recount campaign. No one else was doing anything about it particularly on this

discussion board. The Exit Polling results that we find acceptable in every other corner of the world pointed to the tallied votes not adding up. People on this board were too busy blaming one another to do anything but accept defeat. So when Jill Stein started a fund for a recount I and many others contributed, and I'd do it again knowing if the facts were the same. If you didn't participate; nothing lost, nothing gained. But you don't have a right to tell the rest of us what to do with our own money.

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:35 PM

BannonsLiver (14,684 posts)

17. Wouldnt be surprised at all if Stein is swept up in all of this at some point.

BTW, I don’t see anywhere that the OP told you what to do with your money.

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #12)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 12:42 AM

triron (20,899 posts)

21. I donated also and I was a volunteer for the Clinton campaign

Also felt similarly about exit polls. Not sure Stein had nefarious motive here.

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Response to triron (Reply #21)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 12:48 AM

pnwmom (107,335 posts)

23. The reason we know she did have a nefarious motive was because she presented

the recounts as a way to possibly flip those three states -- and the whole election.

However, she waited to start the fund drive till after the key deadline in PA had passed. So it was a foregone conclusion she wouldn't get a full recount there -- and that there was no possibility then of flipping all three states. But she kept on fundraising, and kept on pretending she could succeed, as long as she could get people to write those checks.

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Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:30 PM

Willie Pep (841 posts)

16. I don't know.

I can't make up my mind if Stein is a dupe of the Russians or actively worked with them. The Russians did support her campaign though as a way to get liberals to vote for her but I am not sure if she was personally aware of this.

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Response to Willie Pep (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 12:48 AM

pnwmom (107,335 posts)

24. Why do you think she went to Russia and ate dinner with Gen. Flynn and Putin? n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #24)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 12:50 AM

Willie Pep (841 posts)

25. Good point.

That is very, very suspicious.

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Response to Joe941 (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 01:06 AM

shanny (6,709 posts)

26. oh puhleeeese

What Jill Stein did or didn't do is the LEAST of our worries.

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Response to shanny (Reply #26)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 01:32 AM

R B Garr (16,533 posts)

27. Wow, apparently you dont watch much news where

they discuss actual events that have influenced our election. Real world things happening, like criminal indictments that would show your protection of Jill Stein to be rather bizarre at this point.

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