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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, in reality it wasnt Hillary who was part an oligarchic conspiracy. She was a target of one.
Things that make you hmmmmm, on Saturday morning.
Really, how stupid people can be. Its dangerous.
mcar
(42,276 posts)Many on this board heeded and passed on the warning. Too many on the left bought the Russian propaganda.
George II
(67,782 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)Gee, how about some apologies? How about learning a lesson and vowing to not be part of KKKarl Rove's dirty work ever again?
That's too much to ask, isn't it?
mcar
(42,276 posts)And yet they are still lecturing Democrats saying we need to reach out to them and beg them to come back into the fold.
Cary
(11,746 posts)... for forgiveness.
It's not my duty, or yours, to appeal to or rehabilitate radical idiots. They have equal access to the facts. It should habe been obvious to them that campaigning against Hilary Clinton was campaigning for #fakepresident.
They should go over to the radical right. They at least would be more honest.
mcar
(42,276 posts)ffr
(22,665 posts)They should stick to reporting and not giving their bias. Or just get out of the business. They helped usher in tRump with their false equivalencies.
Squinch
(50,897 posts)I keep envisioning at the debate where Hillary called #fakepresident a puppet of Putin, and he said "no puppet, you're a puppet."
tanyev
(42,502 posts)It's so obvious!!1!
yardwork
(61,531 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)Skittles
(153,103 posts)boston bean
(36,217 posts)We were allowed to be drowned out and punished for it.
Mob rule is what it was, for real. Russian mob rule.
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)because I pointed out who I thought was not just a Bernie supporter. The lies about Hillary here were the things that should have gotten people out on suspension not pointing them out.
The alert teams here were all in coordination knocking off every Hillary supporter they could
murielm99
(30,712 posts)And look how many have chosen not to return. We need those voices.
Skittles
(153,103 posts)it was so freaking OBVIOUS
Trueblue Texan
(2,416 posts)I lost a friend of over 35 years because she refused to fact check and was pushing the Russian propaganda with venom. Even if you're NOT a Democrat, don't you at least love your country enough to want solid, accurate information? Over and over she and others proved the facts didn't matter. The future of our democracy didn't matter as much as keeping a Democrat out of the White House, ESPECIALLY a Democrat named Hillary Clinton.
Squinch
(50,897 posts)Cha
(296,713 posts)ffr
(22,665 posts)dalton99a
(81,372 posts)They succeeded in sowing division and getting rid of a few good posters
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)They don't get personality changes when they leave RT. Same messages, different contexts is all.
Cary
(11,746 posts)WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)a vast right wing conspiracy.
dalton99a
(81,372 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Media confine their dog-race coverage to Trump and Repubs in congress, but their silence about the huge right-wing centimillionaire and billionaire forces is extremely revealing anyway to anyone who notices it.
Most Repubs in congress aren't such true believers in libertarian extremism that they WANT to commit political suicide. So why are they?
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)Damn Bill for not being able to keep his pants zipped. She was on track to crack that 25 years ago...no wonder they hate and fear Hillary so much.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)I figured there was the US-based kook brothers-type pro-puke conspiracy. And of course over the past year it became apparent that donnie was the beneficiary of putin's largess. And that putin funded trolls and bots and got info on facebook etc.
Nevertheless, I am floored to find out that there was literally a detailed, vast conspiracy directed squarely at HRC. Hiring an actress to portray her imprisoned in a cage??????? Geezus.
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)everyone was so entranced with the animal in the background...and because she is a woman and who can listen to her?...very few paid attention.
Be prepared. You are going to be shocked by the many threads of this conspiracy as it unravels.
DURHAM D
(32,603 posts)From the get go and they have never stoppped working on his behalf.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)might know from the Russian playbook.
DURHAM D
(32,603 posts)boston bean
(36,217 posts)WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)and she seems to have a new coach because she doesn't scream as much.
yardwork
(61,531 posts)The only purpose of their organization is to divide Democrats and get Trumpsters elected.
obamanut2012
(26,030 posts)DURHAM D
(32,603 posts)betsuni
(25,357 posts)madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)dalton99a
(81,372 posts)stonecutter357
(12,693 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)and their Sane Progressive videos who bombarded this place with alerts and obviously bogus news are now unmasked.
And still we have people defending that shit, even after indictments. Its a cancer DU will probably never really excise.
boston bean
(36,217 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)and defend it now that the proof is on the fucking table! Maddening.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)with no recognition that it is now proven just how much Hillary was abused and who benefited from it. Its unreal. Now we have Trump.
Cary
(11,746 posts)Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.
dalton99a
(81,372 posts)that psychotic piece of shit
Maven
(10,533 posts)A site whose moderator has LOCK HER UP in their sig line.
They will be back. But we are ready for their bullshit.
Mosby
(16,249 posts)The putin pov:
https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/muellers-investigation-a-farce-files-joke-indictment-against-russian-trolls/
Pretty soon the whole farce is going to collapse, they better hope they have some good creative fiction writers to spin it when the prosecutions start.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)and even if/when the time comes that the man-child is taken with handcuffs on, they will still believe that it is a conspiracy against him and that Hillary is behind it all.
These people refuse to open their minds to the possibility that they may have been wrong in their choice of candidate, it is so painful for them to admit the guy is trash, the same trash he showed throughout the campaign and continues to.
I wish I could understand what the appeal of the man-child is to so many people, what do they see that I don't? It can't be just the bigotry, the misogyny, the corrupt character, his lack of vocabulary and intelligence, his cheating, etc., those are traits that most humans would run away from, what is it that attracts them? It can't be just hate to democrats, even an idiot can see that no matter how much you dislike someone, you are definitely not going to partner with a cheater...anyway...
ffr
(22,665 posts)Stick with knowledge and justice. Don't waste your time or elevate the condition of the willfully ignorant and intolerant. Fuck them! Focus your energy on righting the wrong. Drown out the chaff.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)When they level an accusation, it comes in the form of a poorly-written, unsubstantiated memo.
When we speak of an accusation leveled against a Republican, it comes in the form of a 37-page indictment from one of the greatest legal teams ever assembled.
They fart pretty loud, but they don't have the shit to back it up.
George II
(67,782 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,296 posts)revolved around the RW hit-piece - "Hillary: The Movie" and its use as a "political ad". The SCOTUS essentially ruled to ultimately allow the transformation of a "corporation" into a "person" that had "First Amendment rights".
boston bean
(36,217 posts)Clarity2
(1,009 posts)to get caught up in Mueller's indictments. There's no doubt he's bought by the russians (guccifer 2.0 etc). My trumpster brother was convinced Hillary killed JFK jr., and I could not figure out for the life of me wth he got that one from. Apparently Roger Stone. Lots of Youtube videos went up in Oct 2016 about Hillary murder conspiracies including that one. It sure as hell was a multi pronged mass attack from Russia & the right wing.
I'd like to know who posted them originally and why they are still up (and yet Youtube takes down video of accusations towards Russian billionaire).
I already reported one of them, and told youtube I will report every one I see to Bob Mueller. I'd love to see Hillary get a lawyer to go after websites for libel for all these fake conspiracies. And sue Fox News. It's sickening what TRUE stories Trump suppresses with his pit bull lawyer & money.
BumRushDaShow
(128,296 posts)who gleefully hopped from tv show to tv show wringing his hands in delight about info regarding Hillary that he purportedly had.
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)Another one that must be locked up. I suspect getting the goods on him is a delicate matter since it involves FBINY office, and may end up being one of the last. I hope not though. But I will patiently wait.
hexola
(4,835 posts)Been in the background of some of this stuff too...
Never heard of him. I looked him up, and see he resigned from fbi in 2001 and was critical of Bill Clinton. Whats the connection?
BumRushDaShow
(128,296 posts)I missed this -
That detail was in a memorandum released on Thursday by Joon Kim, the acting US attorney for the Southern District of New York, seeking to enforce the settlement agreement Prevezon struck with the government in May for roughly $5.9 million.
Prevezon is also represented by Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who met with top Trump campaign officials in June 2016 at Trump Tower to lobby for repealing the 2012 Magnitsky Act.
The Prevezon case garnered high-profile attention because of its ties to a $230 million tax-fraud scheme uncovered in 2008 by the Russian tax lawyer Sergei Magnitsky, whose suspicious death aroused international media attention and spurred the passage of the US law, which was designed to punish those suspected of involvement.
http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-director-louis-freeh-russia-prevezon-money-laundering-2017-11
Of course you do have a cadre of "famous" criminal defense lawyers who take cases for some nefarious types including mob figures and the like, but the above is a rather interesting choice.
Also thanks to hexola for the heads-up on that one!
hexola
(4,835 posts)hexola
(4,835 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,296 posts)There is dirty, Sopranos-like NY/Jersey stuff going on with Freeh and Ghouliani. Could be that when the Clintons moved to NY, feathers were ruffled, and they went gangland style on 'em.
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)I never saw Kallstrom in the media leading to the election. So Kallstrom, Freeh and Giuliani are 3 peas in a pod...Kallstrom takes bribery money from trump in the form of a donation, and along with Giuliani, frames Hillary all over the media as corrupt in the ny fbis eyes. Right before the election.
Why arent heads rolling? Follow the money!!! Funny that that kind of partisan bias isnt acceptable in FBI DC, but its hard to tell just how many current agents at the time had that attitude since giuliani and kallstrom carefully chose their words of former and current.
Ironic that before I came back to this thread I was reading this old article I found on twitter that links to your article. https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump?__twitter_impression=true
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)Just keeps getting deeper. Mueller has his hands full.
Wounded Bear
(58,576 posts)she's been in the Fox/Repug crosshairs for 30 years.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)I still clearly remember how this site changed overnight after Bernie announced his campaign in 2015. It was surreal, but now we see we were correct in suspecting foul play. Using Bernies campaign for divisiveness was just the first phase, but it was a very obvious one.
musette_sf
(10,198 posts)that it was Operation Chaos 2016. Though I've now been proven to be right, I would have rather it hadn't happened at all.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)A sickening thing to be forced to watch happen.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)My disappointment is obvious, no need to go into detail... so I'll just leave it at that.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)and actually support Democrats. In the meantime, someone who favored Trump and Stein as the peace candidates at JPR is starting in on anti-Biden spam now.
Maven
(10,533 posts)She wanted to help Americans and defend our country from the likes of the billionaire predator class and Putin. And she would have been awfully effective at it. Thats why they wanted to destroy her.
Nitram
(22,755 posts)Trump pre-emptively accuses his opponents of doing what he just did or is planning to do. It's damned transparent.