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Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:10 PM

 

HERE'S the collusion - I'd forgotten about this

If you watched Joy Reid this morning, you might have seen Malcolm Nance talking about how the Russians "hacked" our mental state. Can't remember his exact words, but he really spent a bit of time on how they'd gotten inside our heads and had clearly spent some time doing it.

I was just looking for some of my bookmarks showing 2013 activity and collusion and ran across this.


18:30 11/29/2017
Kremlin's 'chief troll' boasted last year of 'insane' plan to elect Trump
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141924937

The so-called chief voice and troll for the Kremlin on Twitter laid out what appears to be a confession of Russia collusion just four days after President Donald Trumps election.

Kremlin propagandist Konstantin Rykov boasted on Facebook that he helped recruit Trump in 2012 to run for president as part of an effort to reshape the global order, reported the Washington Monthly.

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What was our idea with Donald Trump? Rykov posted. For four years and two days .. it was necessary to get to everyone in the brain and grab all possible means of mass perception of reality. Ensure the victory of Donald in the election of the US President. Then create a political alliance between the United States, France, Russia (and a number of other states) and establish a new world order.

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Rykov claimed Trump himself suggested using data firm Cambridge Analytica, which is under investigation in both the U.S. and Britain for its election activities, to micro-target persuadable voters on social media.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/kremlins-chief-troll-boasted-last-year-of-insane-plan-to-elect-trump-and-laid-out-evidence-mueller-still-probing/



And here's a great post by Tommy Carcetti with lotsa relevant links:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029891329

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Reply HERE'S the collusion - I'd forgotten about this (Original post)
RandomAccess Feb 2018 OP
Cha Feb 2018 #1
Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #2
malaise Feb 2018 #3
RandomAccess Feb 2018 #4
RandomAccess Feb 2018 #7
PJMcK Feb 2018 #5
RandomAccess Feb 2018 #9
PJMcK Feb 2018 #10
RandomAccess Feb 2018 #16
Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #24
Thedemby Feb 2018 #6
RandomAccess Feb 2018 #8
Thedemby Feb 2018 #12
RandomAccess Feb 2018 #14
justhanginon Feb 2018 #21
dchill Feb 2018 #31
meadowlander Feb 2018 #11
Poiuyt Feb 2018 #19
renate Feb 2018 #28
RandomAccess Feb 2018 #35
asiliveandbreathe Feb 2018 #13
RandomAccess Feb 2018 #17
dchill Feb 2018 #33
BSdetect Feb 2018 #15
poboy2 Feb 2018 #18
mr_lebowski Feb 2018 #20
RandomAccess Feb 2018 #36
getagrip_already Feb 2018 #22
GeorgeGist Feb 2018 #23
panader0 Feb 2018 #26
SunSeeker Feb 2018 #32
Sam McGee Feb 2018 #25
SunSeeker Feb 2018 #30
bobbieinok Feb 2018 #27
SunSeeker Feb 2018 #29
elleng Feb 2018 #34

Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:14 PM

1. Thank you, RA.. for Tommy's

links, too!

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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:14 PM

2. Great research there.

Anyone who thinks Trump just stumbled into this, is out of touch with reality and needs an intervention.

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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:20 PM

3. Remember Tommy's post well

said it deserved 500 recs

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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:21 PM

4. Here's a twitter thread with a bit more info

 


(THREAD) This is the most stunning revelation in the Trump/Russia investigation yet. My brother Brian @krassenstein predicted something like this was coming very soon, just days ago & here it is! Konstantin Rykov who is known as a Kremlin Propagandist with close ties to Putin (1)

https://mobile.twitter.com/EdKrassen/status/934421422641999873

UNROLLED: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/934421422641999873.html
Sorry, but you'll need to go to the original Twitter thread to see the photos, which are important for understanding

….published a message on Facebook just days after Trump won the election. It is a roadmap & confession saying that he and the Kremlin took part in a conspiracy to make Donald Trump the President of the United States.(2)
It all began with the following Tweet that Trump made after @BarackObama won the 2012 election. (3)

Rykov, responded to Trump, saying “I’m ready. What should I do?”. From that point forward, collusion (or I should say a Conspiracy Against the United States) commenced. Trump replied to Rykov with an image of him giving the thumbs up. (4)

From there, the conspiracy arose, and Rykov actually admitted as much in a Facebook post he made on November 12, 2016 (see below) and another post he made on November 14, 2016 (see following tweet in this thread) (5)

FB Post from Nov 14, 2016 Rykov (6)

Rykov obviously either didn’t realize that what he did would be viewed in the United States as an attack on our democracy, or he was completely telling a lie. The latter wouldn’t seem to make any sense though. Perhaps he was just feeling proud of himself and wanted to boast. (7)
To me it’s obviously a legitimate confession, but one which Rykov didn’t think would actually come back and bite the Kremlin and Trump in the rear end. Boy was he wrong! (8)
As we recall, Cambridge Analytica had sought to work with WikiLeaks in releasing emails form Hillary Clinton’s server. This FB post by Rykov suddenly has more meaning than ever before (9)
If I were Robert Mueller, it becomes a huge piece to a puzzle that is being put together by his prosecution team, and more importantly it is a huge piece of evidence to show Trump conspired against the United States of America. (10)
Thanks to my brother Brian @krassenstein and also WashingtonMonthly for helping put this together. From here on out, I fully expect things to snowball very quickly! (11)
Here is Artem Klyushin congratulating Konstantin Rykov shortly after the election results were posted saying “once again amazed at the genius”.

FYI: Artem Klyushin is a Russian billionaire and heavy critic of US/Russian sanctions. It's all coming together! (12)

To this day Artem Klyushin (@ARTEM_KLYUSHIN) continues to attack the MSM as being FAKE NEWS and continues to support both @realDonaldTrump and Roy Moore. (13)
Konstantin Rykov also runs Moscow's largest brothel and celebrated in Moscow with Artem Klyushin the night Trump won the election. Kylushin met Trump in June of 2013, November of 2013, and he attended a Trump speech in Iowa in 2015. (14)
Artem Klyushin made the following tweet around the same time his Rykov said it was time to "start helping Trump." (15)

Additionally there are several allegations (which seem to be credible) that Kluyshin & Rykov were behind the 2013 Russian-prostitute scheme at the Ritz Moscow that aimed to get Kompromat on Trump. (16)
Here is a photo of Yulya Alferova, Donald Trump, and Artem Klyushin at the 2015 Trump Speech in Iowa. (17)

Artem Klyushin was also confirmed to be in a 2013 meeting with the Agalarovs and Trump, talking about #MissUniverse (among other things). (18)
Yulya Alferova (@AlferovaYulyaE) is the wife of Artem Klyushin, and she posted in Junary of 2014 that Trump "would make a great President", showing she most likely knew of the plan at this point. (19)

According to @SethAbramson, Rykov said in November 2016 that he and Klyushin have been trying to help Trump for years. The fact that Trump was working with them forms the basis of the criminal conspiracy.
Simply put, DONALD TRUMP IS DONE!

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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:23 PM

7. I can't believe it --

 

I'm sitting here, reviewing this post before hitting POST, and suddenly I notice "From Russia With Love" is running through my brain. On its own -- wow. That's never happened to me before, some song popping up while my attention is completely focused on something related.

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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:21 PM

5. The collusion took place at Trump Tower in New York City

The June 2016 meeting hosted by Junior and featuring Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort, Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner and a confusing number of Russians is the smoking gun.

Junior is going to sit in the hot seat. So will the others.

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:25 PM

9. And before that, starting in 2013

 

as those links show.

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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:26 PM

10. I meant the collusion with the Trump campaign (n/t)

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:52 PM

16. Ah, okay

 

But I'm still not at all sure there wasn't collusion with the campaign (Manafort?) before that. Or just with Putin, or some of Putin's oligarch messengers, some of whom seem to be Maralago members.

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 04:20 PM

24. CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA. Centre of it all. Coincidence Brannon grilled just before indictment dropped?

Per indictment: Information obtained from persons known and UNKNOWN ...TO THE JURY,...but not Mueller.

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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:22 PM

6. Maga since 2012

Saw something this morning where it was reported that Trump applied to copyright "Make America Great Again"
In 2012. That would fit with this. Can not remember where I saw it.

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Response to Thedemby (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:24 PM

8. Probably right here --

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210247179

(Could your memory be worse than mine??)

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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:27 PM

12. Memory?

I'm over 65. Good memory no longer expected

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Response to Thedemby (Reply #12)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:36 PM

14. I understad

 

All too damn well. I'm in the same boat.

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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 03:42 PM

21. I was going to agree with you guys but I've already forgotten what I am agreeing to.

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Response to justhanginon (Reply #21)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 05:10 PM

31. I could tell you, but then I'd have to...

actually remember what I was going to tell you.

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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:26 PM

11. They weaponized our morons.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 03:00 PM

19. That brings forth an interesting image in my head

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 05:01 PM

28. I love that!

I have nothing to add... I just love that.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 07:59 PM

35. I think you win the internet today

 

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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:35 PM

13. Excellent reporting, RandomAccess, more relevant information from

Just Security site....written by Bob Bauer - President Obamas WH counsel...easy read...

https://www.justsecurity.org/52591/decoding-russians-indictment-potential-trump-campaign-liability/

....snip.....

Russian entities have spent millions and “employed hundreds” to carry out this work. Internet Research Agency, apparently directing the program, is now revealed to have been among the largest Super PACs operating in the 2016 elections.  This is now clearly one of the major campaign finance scandals in American history.

Meeting, trump tower, so many unwitting Americans....NOT!!!!!!!

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Response to asiliveandbreathe (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:53 PM

17. Thanks so much -- great info

 

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Response to asiliveandbreathe (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 05:13 PM

33. "unwitting" "un-witted."

The witting will be dealt with in another indictment.

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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:42 PM

15. Clearly the russians are not about to just give up on their plans.

And how did dumbass drumph know about Cambridge Analytica?

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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 02:55 PM

18. Thank you for this post. -eom

 

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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 03:19 PM

20. For clarity, Rykov didn't mean Trump responded to him personally ...

That pic of Trump giving the thumbs up was a public tweet ... so Rykov was basically saying he took it as a 'sign' that Trump tweeted that at the moment he did, not that it was a photo sent to him personally.

Don't report that part wrong if sharing this story is all I'm saying, it'll likely get debunked and people won't listen to the rest of what you're saying

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 08:01 PM

36. Good point

 

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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 03:52 PM

22. you say collusion...

I say conspiracy..
Lets call the whole thing over (and send trump to jail)

Lets see, Muehler can prove:

-- There was a meeting at Trump tower where the russians offered election assistance in exchange for sanctions relief
-- The russians delivered help for trump to win election
-- Trump delivered sanctions relief, and even dismantled the dept that enforced them

That sounds like a conspiracy to me. A criminal contract/covenant signed and executed. And since muehler established a state of warfare waged on the US, treason would qualify.

Anyway, I saw that JR interview. I think Nance called it altered perception. Basically it's a tactic where they create a bubble of beliefs through various means and then convince a candidate that those are his/her ideas and insert them in the bubble. Instant resonance.

But that is more of a manipulation; where trump is merely a useful idiot. In reality, he is an active agent of a foreign governemt. Perhaps not completely willing, but fully participating nonetheless.

Now, we just need to convince enough of the 37% to walk away from him that the gop will finally do something about him. Because while he hovers at 37%, the senate won't have enough votes to remove him. He has to be in the mid to low 20's to convince them (nixon was at 23% for example).


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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 04:06 PM

23. Keeping an eye on Macron ...

Then create a political alliance between the United States, France, Russia (and a number of other states) and establish a new world order.

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #23)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 04:33 PM

26. I believe Le Pen was the Kremlin's choice, not Macron.

I don't worry about Macron.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #26)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 05:13 PM

32. Yup. Macron was attacked by the Kremlin the same way Hillary was.

Fortunately for France and the world, Putin was not successful in installing his patsy, Le Pen.

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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 04:32 PM

25. It's an open and shut case of collusion and conspiracy

 

Russians interfere to support Trump, attack Hillary.

Meeting in Trump tower to get more dirt on Hillary and talk about lifting sanctions (codeword: adoption).

Flynn meets with Russians, says wait until after the election, we'll drop sanctions.

Trump refuses to enforce Congressional sanctions, and, abolishes Dept of State office that enforces sanctions.

Case closed. Cuff 'em, Danno.



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Response to Sam McGee (Reply #25)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 05:10 PM

30. Great pic.

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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 04:35 PM

27. Thank you for info on how far back collusion goes

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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 05:09 PM

29. There is a TON of evidence of collusion. Trump isn't impeached because Republicans are traitors.

All Republicans care about is having Trump there to sign into law their extreme right wing agenda. They have literally sold their soul to the devil, namely their extreme right-wing donors like the Mercers and the Kochs.

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Response to RandomAccess (Original post)

Sat Feb 17, 2018, 05:35 PM

34. 'get to everyone in the brain and grab all possible means of mass perception of reality.'

U.S. brains were 'got.'

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