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sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 08:30 PM Feb 2018

Just Like Anyone Else's Kids.

Sandy Hook

Valerie JarrettSenior advisor to the president and director of the office of public engagement and intergovernmental affairs, 2009-2017

I was in the Oval Office when the president found out that 20 children and six adults had died. And I remember asking, Could you repeat the number? Because I couldn't absorb 20 children. Then I found out they were 6 and 7 years of age. It was almost as if I couldn't take it in.



Valerie Jarrett

Just two days later, the president went to Newtown. It was a rainy day so he couldn’t take a helicopter. We had to drive for an hour and 10 minutes. I remember that like it was yesterday. In the car, he looked at his remarks and he turned them over and he said, “That’s not what I want to say,” and he pulled out a yellow pad of paper and he started to write.

Barack ObamaPresident of the United States, 2009-2017

I knew one thing I needed to do was to name the children, to acknowledge them and make sure that people understood that this wasn’t an abstraction, that these were [kids] just like Malia or Sasha or anybody else’s kids that would hug you and be tucked in at night and read stories to. The notion that we as a society couldn’t protect them, not from a natural disaster but from something like this…

Joshua DuBois

I remember the sheer number of people affected. You had all of those students and teachers who were lost, but each one of them had multiple family members who were directly impacted. Three, four, five, some of them had 10 or 15 people there...And every single one, the president greeted. He would bring them in for a big hug. He’d put his hands on their shoulder and look 'em in their eyes. Some of the younger siblings who were just too young to understand what was going on, he’d try to get them to laugh a little bit or hand them a box of White House M&Ms from his pocket. [The president] just gave whatever he could in that time.



My President





http://www.history.com/the-obama-years/newtown.html

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Just Like Anyone Else's Kids. (Original Post) sheshe2 Feb 2018 OP
He is a normal, healthy human being. Trump is a psychopath and sociopath. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #1
Yes. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #2
+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #34
I am with you there, smirkymonkey. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #38
Wow. As soul battering as this is, we cannot forget this... Guilded Lilly Feb 2018 #3
well said, and thank you Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #4
I love this. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #8
Decency and empathy. Marie Marie Feb 2018 #5
My sons had his example during their formative years. rainin Feb 2018 #6
Obama traveled here to Connecticut to meet with the families of the victims, hug them.... George II Feb 2018 #7
I tried to find an old pic of mine. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #11
God, that just enrages me! smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #35
Thank you, she, for this Remberance Cha Feb 2018 #9
He hugged them all Cha. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #12
I know.. Cha Feb 2018 #15
Can we have a real president back? mcar Feb 2018 #10
Yes please. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #13
+1 treestar Feb 2018 #61
Democrats who failed the children Marjory Stoneman Douglas Cataract Feb 2018 #14
Your article is from 2013 sheshe2 Feb 2018 #18
This is how Democrats can co-opt the pro-life mantel. Cataract Feb 2018 #23
Does sheshe2 Feb 2018 #27
Of course planned parenthood is a pro life position. Cataract Feb 2018 #29
Thank you for explaining what you meant. Indeed "pro-life" is too often used as its exact opposite uppityperson Feb 2018 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #32
Wow. Seriously?... SidDithers Feb 2018 #19
Kudos for a job quickly done. Cataract Feb 2018 #25
"....and magnificently we will flow..." Iggo Feb 2018 #36
... SidDithers Feb 2018 #63
You joined DU for that? "anti guns is a pro life position"? Got lost going to Free Republic? George II Feb 2018 #20
Thanks. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #21
No. I joined Democratic Underground to voice my opinion. Cataract Feb 2018 #24
What do you mean "anti guns is a pro life position"? Pro-life is anti-choice uppityperson Feb 2018 #22
As that 2013 article notes, that bill lost by 6 votes; those 4 voting yes would not have saved it SunSeeker Feb 2018 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #33
You chose a vote from back in 2013 to criticize Democrats, not just criticize but..... George II Feb 2018 #37
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #40
It was the fourth. George II Feb 2018 #41
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #43
There were 24 working days of a filibuster proof Dem majority in Obama's first term. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #46
Dems did not "fall short." The cowardly GOP did, blocking every gun control measure. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #44
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #47
The assault rifle ban expired in 2004. There were three earlier mass shootings.... George II Feb 2018 #51
That is NOT why. Dems did not block the AWB. It was the REPUBLICAN filibuster that blocked it. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #49
No, that is NOT "all" you are doing. You blamed those 4 Dems for the failure of gun control. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #53
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #50
No, you are Dem bashing by misstating the facts. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #52
Remember the flack he caught for saying Trayvon would have been his kid? ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #16
You rarely if ever see twitler with children kimbutgar Feb 2018 #17
K&R for our last human President. dchill Feb 2018 #26
we have a nazi troll as POTUS. pansypoo53219 Feb 2018 #30
Last night I said this in post #7: George II Feb 2018 #39
i'm sure he wanted to play saturday morning, but saner minds prevailed spanone Feb 2018 #45
Not surprising to any of us, is it. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #48
The COn is about photo Ops malaise Feb 2018 #54
There are no pictures mainstreetonce Feb 2018 #55
Yes.. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #56
And Melania in her Nurse Ratched outfit. nt SunSeeker Feb 2018 #57
Ugh. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #58
You can't make this shit up... SunSeeker Feb 2018 #59
Jaysus. sheshe2 Feb 2018 #60
Beautiful post, she. Control-Z Feb 2018 #62

sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
2. Yes.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 08:48 PM
Feb 2018

Obama is a normal, healthy human being. He has a heart that shows on his face and a soul that is beautiful and endless.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
34. +1000
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 02:42 PM
Feb 2018

I am in tears over the fact that we had one of the best men on the planet as our leader and now we have the absolute worst. He is an extraordinary human being and I would give anything to have him back.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
3. Wow. As soul battering as this is, we cannot forget this...
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 09:32 PM
Feb 2018

How Republicans in Congress did NOTHING then, either. And nothing about every single act of domestic mass murder that has happened since.

Our Obama is not in power, and the memories of his amazing character make the wretch in the White House seem all the worse (though he has no problem living up to his vileness all on his own).

The Cretin is a culmination of the Republican anti-humanity from that time and multiplied ten times today.
But we have to try and focus on the change we will create when we get the skank and his blood money Party out of office.

This has been so unbearably tough. I often can’t stop the numbed disbelief from literally paralyzing my brain momentarily.
But by every and anything anyone holds dear, we can’t forget the pain, we have to use it to stay motivated to rip him out of a longer history than he already has fouled.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
5. Decency and empathy.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 11:14 PM
Feb 2018

Hey Republicans, I know that these words and their meaning are foreign to you so maybe you could look them up.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
6. My sons had his example during their formative years.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 11:20 PM
Feb 2018

They understand how lucky they were. We may never completely undo the damage of this monster.

George II

(67,782 posts)
7. Obama traveled here to Connecticut to meet with the families of the victims, hug them....
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 11:22 PM
Feb 2018

....and spend some time with other children who escaped the carnage. Then sat alone in a classroom reflecting, wiping a tear from his eye. That was a horrible week, but he helped us get through it.

Our current Pretender went to Florida with PutaUS for a grinning "thumbs up" photo op, then went to a night club last night.

Taking bets on him playing golf tomorrow, odds are 1-100 that he does.

sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
11. I tried to find an old pic of mine.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 11:32 PM
Feb 2018

Obama striding across the lawn in the pouring rain coming home from Sandy Hook. Tall, long strides the grief on face apparent. The weight of despair on his face. The weight of each child on his shoulders.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
35. God, that just enrages me!
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 02:44 PM
Feb 2018

Everything is just a fucking photo-op for him. He cares about nobody but himself. I hate him with a white-hot passion.

Cha

(297,123 posts)
9. Thank you, she, for this Remberance
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 11:29 PM
Feb 2018

of the way a President with a beautiful heart reacts to such horrible tragedy.

President Obama

sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
12. He hugged them all Cha.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 11:36 PM
Feb 2018

Every family, all the loved ones, all the children. Everyone.

He talked to them and cried with them.

Thanks for that pic.

 

Cataract

(19 posts)
14. Democrats who failed the children Marjory Stoneman Douglas
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 11:41 PM
Feb 2018

Even after Harry Reid had withdrawn the Assault Rifle ban from the legislation, these four Democrats failed the students of Marjorie Stoneman Douglas:

Heidi Heitkamp
Mark Pryor
Mark Begich
Max Baucus

Senator Heitkamp is all that remains from this inglorious group. Perhaps she needs a primary challenger from a pro life Democrat. Remember, anti guns is a pro life position.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/number-senators-voted-against-background-checks-proposal/



 

Cataract

(19 posts)
23. This is how Democrats can co-opt the pro-life mantel.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 01:27 AM
Feb 2018

Universal Healthcare is a pro life position.
Diplomacy is a pro life position.
Renewable Energy is a pro-life position.
Gun safety is a pro-life position.


Perhaps we should stop ceding the “high” ground and take it as our own. Surely you would agree that Democratic principles are far more pro-life than any policies today’s Republicans proffer.

sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
27. Does
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 02:37 AM
Feb 2018
Universal Healthcare is a pro life position.

Does this include planned parenthood? The right for a woman to chose? Her body her right?


Diplomacy is a pro life position.

Sorry not sure what this even means,

Renewable Energy is a pro-life position.

I am for solar! Let's get the ass in the WH out of there so we can get some. I call that pro choice....we chose solar to save the planet.


Gun safety is a pro-life position.


Hmm. Gun safety..Save the Gun? Not sure where you are going here, save the gun or perhaps we should regulate them and save lives.

Democrats are for pro choice. Our lives our choice.
 

Cataract

(19 posts)
29. Of course planned parenthood is a pro life position.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:25 AM
Feb 2018

Anti-war can be substituted for diplomacy

Gun Safety better phrasing than Gun Control.

I’m talking about co-opting the pro-life moniker to promote the entire safety net of policies. Of course a majority of Democrats are pro-choice. There is nothing wrong with retaining the phrase Pro Choice. I am talking about forcing the Republicans to invent another word for their pro birth position, just as the Republicans forced Democrats to drop the word liberal from their vocabulary and replace it with progressive.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
31. Thank you for explaining what you meant. Indeed "pro-life" is too often used as its exact opposite
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 02:32 PM
Feb 2018

Too many who call themselves "pro-life" are actually pro war, pro death penalty, pro guns, none of which are for life.

Unfortunately du gets influxes of trolls here to disrupt, which combined with unclarity of internet communication, can lead to some nasty non-welcomes.

Thank you for clarifying what you meant.

Response to uppityperson (Reply #31)

 

Cataract

(19 posts)
25. Kudos for a job quickly done.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 02:03 AM
Feb 2018

I hope my real name in my profile and in my email address didn’t give me away.

I’ve sat on the sidelines for over a year watching traditional Democrats lose a tremendously valuable SCOTUS seat as well as a presidency to a degenerate buffoon. I thought I’d re-enter the discussion and fight for my country and my planet. If I’m the wrong kind of Democrat for Democratic Underground, perhaps you should be more specific in the kind of echo chamber you wish to construct.

I think you’ll find that my only infractions were being too liberal, or perhaps believing that policy over party is the path best taken.

- Ron Genise

Iggo

(47,547 posts)
36. "....and magnificently we will flow..."
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 02:52 PM
Feb 2018

Just had to trip to a beautiful song.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. You joined DU for that? "anti guns is a pro life position"? Got lost going to Free Republic?
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:21 AM
Feb 2018

Enjoy your stay, and don't let the door...................

 

Cataract

(19 posts)
24. No. I joined Democratic Underground to voice my opinion.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 01:51 AM
Feb 2018

Are all posters here that welcoming, or just you?

Perhaps you haven’t noticed over the years how Democrats have had to flee their liberal roots from the 1930s to the 1980s when they controlled the House unabated. Republicans learned to use language to hoodwink lower information voters into thinking that liberalism was communism and that the Second Amendment was about freedom and not slavery. Somehow protest was unpatriotic and worshipping the military was patriotism. Our country was born in protest and the founding fathers rejected standing armies in time of peace.

Currently the Republicans own the phrase pro-life when every policy they put forth supports poverty, illiteracy, death and destruction.

I guess I joined to promote taking back not only the mantel of pro-life, but also the mantel of Christianity for actual Christians and patriotism for actual patriots.

I look forward to the challenge and to the discussions. But you may be right. The first two comments on my posting were disrespectful and uninviting.

But thank you for at least taking the time to wish me an enjoyable stay.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
22. What do you mean "anti guns is a pro life position"? Pro-life is anti-choice
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:59 AM
Feb 2018

not anti-gay. Please explain.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
28. As that 2013 article notes, that bill lost by 6 votes; those 4 voting yes would not have saved it
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:19 AM
Feb 2018

No doubt Harry Reid knew that the vote would be hopeless and let these 4 red state Dems vote No to help them hold their seats.

Of all the people to condemn over the Florida high school mass shooting, these 4 aren't among them.

Your post just smacks of opportunistic Dem bashing.

Response to SunSeeker (Reply #28)

George II

(67,782 posts)
37. You chose a vote from back in 2013 to criticize Democrats, not just criticize but.....
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 02:52 PM
Feb 2018

.....use this horrible incident to point to those four Democrats as "failing" the students in Florida.

And now you're doubling down on that and expanding it in this post, and also hinting that Democrats haven't tried to do better.

Response to George II (Reply #37)

Response to George II (Reply #41)

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
46. There were 24 working days of a filibuster proof Dem majority in Obama's first term.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:21 PM
Feb 2018

And they were not even consecutive. We used those precious few days to pass the ACA, which saved 45,000 lives each year.

Stop your Dem bashing.

Oh, and FUCK JILL STEIN.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
44. Dems did not "fall short." The cowardly GOP did, blocking every gun control measure.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:18 PM
Feb 2018

We could not overcome the Republican filibuster. Just what do you think Dems could have done in light of the filibuster?

Literally everything in your post is incorrect.

Response to George II (Reply #37)

George II

(67,782 posts)
51. The assault rifle ban expired in 2004. There were three earlier mass shootings....
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:33 PM
Feb 2018

....in 2009 (I don't rate them by gruesomeness)

You don't "effect change" by pointing fingers. As the saying goes, "you catch more flied with honey than you do with vinegar".

But if you do insist on pointing fingers, why not do so at the legislators that have been blocking gun control legislation for decades, the republicans?

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
42. That is NOT why. Dems did not block the AWB. It was the REPUBLICAN filibuster that blocked it.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:13 PM
Feb 2018

The argument that Republicans blocked gun control measures of every sort proposed by the Dems can be made "cleanly." Because Republicans fucking did. That is the truth.

The Dems did not "fall short." The cowardly Republicans did.

Stop bashing Dems. You are fooling no one here.

Response to SunSeeker (Reply #42)

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
53. No, that is NOT "all" you are doing. You blamed those 4 Dems for the failure of gun control.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:47 PM
Feb 2018

That is factually wrong. That is Dem bashing, which is counterproductive to progressive change.


P.S. FUCK JILL STEIN

Response to SunSeeker (Reply #42)

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
52. No, you are Dem bashing by misstating the facts.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:44 PM
Feb 2018

THOSE 4 VOTED NO BECAUSE THE VOTE WAS HOPELESS IN LIGHT OF THE FILIBUSTER AND THEY WANTED TO PRESERVE THEIR RED STATE SEATS. SO THEY COULD VOTE ANOTHER DAY. WHICH IS WHY REID VOTED NO.

Sheesh.

I am fine with you thoughtfully disagreeing on strategy, but that is not what you are doing. You are misstating the facts to bash Dems. The only "change" you will accomplish with that is to elect more Republicans.

If you really wanted things to "reflect well on the Party and its ideals," you wouldn't be posting this bullshit.





P.S. FUCK JILL STEIN



ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
16. Remember the flack he caught for saying Trayvon would have been his kid?
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 11:45 PM
Feb 2018

Yeah, this is what he meant by that statement. So to hell with those RW assholes who mocked him for showing some empathy.

kimbutgar

(21,111 posts)
17. You rarely if ever see twitler with children
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 11:47 PM
Feb 2018

Children can spot a bs person immediately. They instinctly know if one is a good person. I have only seen one pictureof twitler with his grandchildren and they are not happy. His granddaughter looked creeped out holding his hand.

And don’t get me started on him not owning any animals.

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. Last night I said this in post #7:
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:00 PM
Feb 2018

"Taking bets on him playing golf tomorrow, odds are 1-100 that he does."

Guess what?

malaise

(268,898 posts)
54. The COn is about photo Ops
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:56 PM
Feb 2018

He has not one shred of empathy. The entire visit with medical folks and the one set up 'victim' lasted fifteen minutes. These are sets in his reality TV presidency. It's as fake as most of his bullshit.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
55. There are no pictures
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 04:00 PM
Feb 2018

Of Trump with survivors or victims.
He said he saw them in the hospital.

The only picture I could find was with doctors.

sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
60. Jaysus.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 04:50 PM
Feb 2018

Look at all those bright smiling faces and huge thumbs up for the 17 dead victims. #@#$%&*(

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