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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:26 AM Feb 2018

Soon, Trump voters are going to have a head on collision with reality.

Mueller is reality. In my opinion this is one of the most dangerous periods in our countries history for this reason.

The Republican party , Trump, Fox news, propaganda campaign against their voters has been completely successful. Trump voters now believe in fake news. They don't care about the Russia investigation, fake news. They don't care about the bad things they hear about Trump. Fake news. Trump voters are under the complete control of propaganda. It is a major threat to our democracy.

When the Mueller investigation ends it's going to be brutal on Trump and the people who have worked for him. It will be shocking to Trump voters watching so many people getting indicted, pleading guilty, articles of impeachment being brought forth against Trump.

We are going to witness what happens when propaganda hits head on with reality. This will be historic.

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Soon, Trump voters are going to have a head on collision with reality. (Original Post) shockey80 Feb 2018 OP
Sorry to tell you this vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #1
In the end, reality ALWAYS prevails. dchill Feb 2018 #13
For us it does vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #21
Reality TV shows always get cancelled. dchill Feb 2018 #23
I don't want to think of us as a reality show vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #25
facts too bdamomma Feb 2018 #28
Reality IS fact. dchill Feb 2018 #29
true. bdamomma Feb 2018 #30
Not if the nazi's and Putin are able to use fake news to reverse everything here as Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #36
Bring 'em on! Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #42
Ask al gore and John Kerry about that Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #47
DC repubs DownriverDem Feb 2018 #20
Of course nobody believes him vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #22
This. CentralMass Feb 2018 #34
Fuck 'em Zorro Feb 2018 #2
Yep pandr32 Feb 2018 #26
I am waiting for Mueller to indict and arrest Jr. and Jared. That is when heads will explode. LonePirate Feb 2018 #3
The evidence lying around in public view is pretty damning. byronius Feb 2018 #27
If it happens, they won't be aware. NT enough Feb 2018 #4
Yep because Fox and Breitbart wont report it nt maryellen99 Feb 2018 #6
When there's major GallopingGhost Feb 2018 #15
even after the indictments were dropped.. getagrip_already Feb 2018 #50
Obama: ".. reality has a way of catching up with you ... " uponit7771 Feb 2018 #5
reality is real and once their fantasy bubble pops they'll be all alone in the hell they've created. Afromania Feb 2018 #7
OK - except a good 30 % of voters are cultists and when the alt reality of a cultist is threatened Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2018 #8
If they didn't believe all that was fake news rock Feb 2018 #9
It's going to take a while. kentuck Feb 2018 #10
There's only one reality Mr. Ected Feb 2018 #11
Reality belongs to no one. dchill Feb 2018 #14
Existentially, of course Mr. Ected Feb 2018 #16
Reality is the Highlander. dchill Feb 2018 #18
Mueller is a mac truck, trump is a yugo. nt Javaman Feb 2018 #12
A De-Trumpification program will be needed similar to denazification dalton99a Feb 2018 #17
I honestly don't think most of them are capable of a reality check, any longer. (nt) Paladin Feb 2018 #19
Reality By Belief frames has always collided with Reality By Science frames. RBB ancianita Feb 2018 #24
Morning joe had Brief interviews with voters on the street in Nunes' district. Ilsa Feb 2018 #31
Shockey80, I'm hoping you're right - - but, sadly, I can't quite believe that. Texin Feb 2018 #32
You are exactly correct except for one thing CanonRay Feb 2018 #33
Two words on how to change SOME Trump supporters: chuckstevens Feb 2018 #35
I'm not so optimistic. zentrum Feb 2018 #37
deplos enid602 Feb 2018 #38
You give Trump supporters too much credit. They wouldn't know reality if it bit them on the ass. Nitram Feb 2018 #39
The GOP is still PO'd about Bork. rickford66 Feb 2018 #40
Im hoping his traitorous acts are on video or recorded via phone calls kimbutgar Feb 2018 #41
I blog on a local right wing site watoos Feb 2018 #43
There is a good chance phones were tapped. shockey80 Feb 2018 #44
you assume the gop will act...i don't think so...they will deny and coverup dembotoz Feb 2018 #45
I suspect Bayard Feb 2018 #46
or.. notKeith Feb 2018 #48
Reality check for Trumpers lindalou65 Feb 2018 #49
No. They won't. vi5 Feb 2018 #51
+1 Conservatives are a lost cause. ffr Feb 2018 #54
There is no hope for most of them (98%) awesomerwb1 Feb 2018 #52
Millions of ignorant goobers with tens of NoMoreRepugs Feb 2018 #53
I feel the exact opposite: They'll rally 'round their leader even more. Jake Stern Feb 2018 #55
This will be fun to watch Gothmog Feb 2018 #56
The problem is that they won't jimlup Feb 2018 #57

vercetti2021

(10,150 posts)
1. Sorry to tell you this
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:28 AM
Feb 2018

Mueller is the enemy trying to take down their beloved messiah. They live in some warped reality that the FBI is the enemy and Humpty dRumpty is the victim.

Sadly...that is the case now. Reality doesn't exist to the alt-right.

vercetti2021

(10,150 posts)
25. I don't want to think of us as a reality show
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:39 AM
Feb 2018

I want this to be reality itself just what we're living it isn't that

Eliot Rosewater

(31,096 posts)
36. Not if the nazi's and Putin are able to use fake news to reverse everything here as
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:56 AM
Feb 2018

has been done elsewhere.

Deplorables are not going to sit back and accept justice on their corrupt leaders.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
42. Bring 'em on!
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:09 PM
Feb 2018

I'm not scared of these cowards and we can take anything they can throw at us! They can do whatever they're going to do, whether it's whine, march, riot, or (most likely), cling to their guns and threaten everybody with them. I refuse to live in fear of them, and Trump is not getting away with this. Let the whole world see who they really are when justice is done!

DownriverDem

(6,205 posts)
20. DC repubs
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:34 AM
Feb 2018

are traitors for protecting trump. The majority of the country does not believe a word trump says.

byronius

(7,369 posts)
27. The evidence lying around in public view is pretty damning.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:41 AM
Feb 2018

And I think you're right, that's a big step.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
15. When there's major
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:18 AM
Feb 2018

breaking news on CNN, I'll sometimes turn on Faux for a second to see if they're reporting it. Hardly ever; it's usually some phony "scandal" headline involving the Clintons or President Obama.

getagrip_already

(14,225 posts)
50. even after the indictments were dropped..
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:52 PM
Feb 2018

if you went to foxnews.com the main headline was the fbi failing to pursue the shooter lead in florida. The other main headlines were just random crap, including some redneck family that got into a fight on a cruise ship and had to be ejected.

The only place the indictments appears was a small box in a series of vid clips. But no comentary or analysis was provided. you had to watch the clip, which I didn't bother to do.

So yeah, no coverage is pretty much the norm on major stories that don't match their agenda.

Afromania

(2,767 posts)
7. reality is real and once their fantasy bubble pops they'll be all alone in the hell they've created.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:44 AM
Feb 2018

Well, technically not all alone, but any voice they had will be muted because the rest of the country understands that those people can't be trusted not to get us all killed over their dangerous ass "ideologies".

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
8. OK - except a good 30 % of voters are cultists and when the alt reality of a cultist is threatened
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:46 AM
Feb 2018

they entrench even deeper. What I am hopeful for though is that the majority of us who are NOT cultists will finally rise up and say ENOUGH. So many examples I could cite where conflict was resolved not by extremists seeing the folly of their ways, but by being marginalized and disempowered. Ive said all along that the problem is not white nationalists and far right extremists, its that theyve been empowered/enabled by the mainstream republican party.

rock

(13,218 posts)
9. If they didn't believe all that was fake news
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:56 AM
Feb 2018

That would make them wrong, stupid, and easily duped. Consider their choices. And remember they are wrong, stupid, and easily duped.

dchill

(38,315 posts)
14. Reality belongs to no one.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:18 AM
Feb 2018

We can only attempt to recognize it. We belong to IT - all of us, whether we believe it or not.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
16. Existentially, of course
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:23 AM
Feb 2018

But our reality will be born out by indictments, prosecutions and imprisonment.

Their "reality" will be exposed in the process.

dalton99a

(81,062 posts)
17. A De-Trumpification program will be needed similar to denazification
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:25 AM
Feb 2018

of Germany after WWII. But we know this will not happen, and most Trump voters will be Trump voters - willfully ignorant, racist, hateful assholes - until they die off.

But fuck them. The welfare and well-being of the cult is not my concern.

ancianita

(35,812 posts)
24. Reality By Belief frames has always collided with Reality By Science frames. RBB
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:39 AM
Feb 2018

rolls right off the RBS and keeps on rolling, picking up new generations of children who've been brainwashed by religions used by parents as a substitute for their own efforts at moral teaching.

The head-on will be just what the religious need when they hear their children tell them they've been duped by so many for so long they don't even know who their friends in government really are.

But as Obama said, they'll cling to their religion and their guns

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
31. Morning joe had Brief interviews with voters on the street in Nunes' district.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:45 AM
Feb 2018

That's the "Central valley" per NBC. The few talked to are voting R, don't pay attention to russia story, call some msm news outlets "fake".

It makes me weep that ordinary people like this can be played. Nunes will win again, I'm afraid, unless he's indicted, and soon.

Texin

(2,585 posts)
32. Shockey80, I'm hoping you're right - - but, sadly, I can't quite believe that.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:46 AM
Feb 2018
If, and that is the biggest small word in the English language these days, Mueller is allowed to survive and complete his investigation of this obscenity, they still would be unmoved by the evidence and they will be convinced that this is a judicial purge of the tRump crime family and the other traitors to the Constitution who threw in with him or downright recruited him on behalf of one of the country's most formidable adversaries. I am totally unpersuaded to believe that these folks will ever change their beliefs about Shitler.

They have been brainwashed because they WANT to believe the propaganda. It fits with their own particular world view and their own prejudices and belief system, along with their bent toward authoritarian doctrinaire. They want their very on Papa Doc - and by, god, they've got him in Shitler. They'll gladly go down with the ship of fools.

CanonRay

(14,036 posts)
33. You are exactly correct except for one thing
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:46 AM
Feb 2018

after the Mueller investigation is over, even after Trump is out of office, they STILL won't believe it. They are that conditioned to his bullshit. He'll never accept he is guilty, and neither will they. Big trouble IMHO.

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
35. Two words on how to change SOME Trump supporters:
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:47 AM
Feb 2018

Money laundering.

If the left can frame what happened as Trump "sold out his country for personal financial gain and was a blackmailed puppet of Putin", it will turn some against him.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
37. I'm not so optimistic.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:00 PM
Feb 2018

Wish I was, but propaganda usually wins. It changes shape just enough to slip in again. Not sure Mueller can definitively nail everyone who is a criminal. Power structures protect vested power.

Nitram

(22,663 posts)
39. You give Trump supporters too much credit. They wouldn't know reality if it bit them on the ass.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:04 PM
Feb 2018

They'll just chant that "the system is rigged."

rickford66

(5,497 posts)
40. The GOP is still PO'd about Bork.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:06 PM
Feb 2018

The elephant never forgets. The only reality they know is reality TV.

kimbutgar

(20,871 posts)
41. Im hoping his traitorous acts are on video or recorded via phone calls
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:07 PM
Feb 2018

I hope it makes their heads explode!

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
43. I blog on a local right wing site
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:14 PM
Feb 2018

and I agree there is no arguing with them. However, when Jr. and Jared and others get indicted a big key will be how many patriotic Republicans will step up to the plate? If they all make a pact to go down with Trump I say, game on. Those Trumpers are going to have to double down on their blue pills and I will double down on my red pills. Reality and truth must prevail.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
44. There is a good chance phones were tapped.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:16 PM
Feb 2018

We have to remember these are very stupid people we are dealing with in the Whitehouse. They were using their cell phones during this investigation. The chances are very good someone was listening.

Bayard

(21,801 posts)
46. I suspect
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:20 PM
Feb 2018

Current mass shootings will be a drop in the bucket to what will ensue. You have to hope most will have more sense, but there will be some that think open rebellion and retribution is the way to go.

lindalou65

(253 posts)
49. Reality check for Trumpers
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:49 PM
Feb 2018

a Winston Churchill quote that sums up the reality Trumpers will face: "The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."






























 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
51. No. They won't.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:56 PM
Feb 2018

They don't live in reality. They don't exist in reality. They live in a world where everyone that is not like them is out to get them and take away what is theirs.

Short of Fox News being forced off the air and the internet being censored, nothing is going to bring these morons back to fact-based reality.

There will always be someone else to blame and excuses to be made.

awesomerwb1

(4,256 posts)
52. There is no hope for most of them (98%)
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 01:12 PM
Feb 2018

Not with Faux, Brainfart,national enquirer, winger radio and Russia manipulating reality.

They'll believe in extraterrestrials and bigfoot before they believe anything bad about cheetolini.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,257 posts)
53. Millions of ignorant goobers with tens of
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 01:18 PM
Feb 2018

millions of guns and hundreds of millions of rounds are
a true threat to all of us IMO.... do not underestimate the ignorance of some of the American public.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
55. I feel the exact opposite: They'll rally 'round their leader even more.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 01:26 PM
Feb 2018

In fact I fear an insurrection of some sort if a Dem president is elected in 2020. With the courts freshly packed with fellow RW ideologues and the fact that the Feds can really bungle a prosecution get ready for more Bundy style armed occupations except this time it won't be some wildlife preserve in Oregon, it'll be government buildings and offices.

Also expect to see racist, right wing law enforcement openly sympathizing with the seditionists.

The Pandora's Box has been opened and it's going to be near impossible to stuff it back in.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
57. The problem is that they won't
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:42 PM
Feb 2018

they are now so insulated from reality that they can't face it. I waste some time on the cesspool of a site skinner still runs called

discussionist.com

It is impressive to see how impervious to reality they are.

The site is overrun with Trumpites. These people are incapable of reality. Fox News and Brietbart and Limbaugh have helped make them that way. They are frightened and afraid and they think the world is against them. They will call it a "leftist plot to take over the government" They are all but shaking with anger and irrationality. They couldn't see reality if it smashed them in the face.

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