Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:12 PM
grantcart (51,208 posts)
Romney on England: "It is a small island . . doesn't make things. . the world wants to buy".Last edited Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:11 PM - Edit history (1) On edit: Just for fun I emailed this to the Guardian writer who wrote about Romney's other gaffes. As reported by the Political Wire http://politicalwire.com/ Romney wrote, in his book, No Apology: "England is just a small island. Its roads and houses are small. With few exceptions, it doesn't make things that people in the rest of the world want to buy. And if it hadn't been separated from the continent by water, it almost certainly would have been lost to Hitler's ambitions." I made a prediction that the President's campaign would be leaking little tid bits, and wonder if this is one of them. Remember Mitt, No Apologies now.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:14 PM
Rosa Luxemburg (28,627 posts)
1. OMG
He is in deep water with the Brits now - send this to the British newspapers!
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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #1)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:41 PM
bulloney (4,113 posts)
66. And to think Mitt went there to show off his foreign policy skills. I guess he did.
Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #1)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 08:23 PM
roguevalley (40,656 posts)
118. God, I love England. I love London. Fuck Romney.
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:14 PM
TwilightGardener (46,416 posts)
2. Their trees...not the right size.
Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #2)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:15 PM
grantcart (51,208 posts)
3. yes I did spill my water over my keyboard on that one.
Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #2)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:16 PM
Coexist (24,542 posts)
6. omfg... lol
Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #2)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:28 PM
TeamPooka (18,891 posts)
19. spit take
This is the DU member formerly known as TeamPooka.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:15 PM
DURHAM D (29,869 posts)
4. Good lord.
I have no words...
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:18 PM
SunsetDreams (8,571 posts)
7. Wow!
So wrong for POTUS.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:19 PM
mainer (11,078 posts)
8. Surely this cannot be true.
Small roads? Small houses? He couldn't really have said that!
Could he?!! |
Response to mainer (Reply #8)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:21 PM
nichomachus (12,754 posts)
10. When you're flying over at 36,000 feet, they do look small
Response to nichomachus (Reply #10)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:24 PM
grantcart (51,208 posts)
13. and as was pointed out up thread, their trees are not the right height.
Response to nichomachus (Reply #10)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:19 PM
RebelOne (30,947 posts)
55. And when you are descending down through the fog,
which always seems to be there, you cannot see just how big London is. Been there, done that and it is far from a little island.
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Response to nichomachus (Reply #10)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 09:01 AM
iamthebandfanman (8,124 posts)
142. when you live like he does,
anything and everything is smaller
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Response to mainer (Reply #8)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:28 PM
malaise (225,676 posts)
18. He could
He probably complained about their tiny sandwiches.
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Response to mainer (Reply #8)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:03 PM
MissMarple (9,656 posts)
41. Well, certainly not ALL of them.
And sometimes small is just big enough. Seriously
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Response to mainer (Reply #8)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:17 PM
Jane Austin (9,198 posts)
82. Small houses like Downton Abbey, and all those other
manor houses that dot the landscape.
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Response to Jane Austin (Reply #82)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:31 PM
mentalsolstice (4,210 posts)
101. Lord Grantham would appear to be quite plebeian to Mittens. nt
Response to mainer (Reply #8)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 08:39 AM
4th law of robotics (6,801 posts)
141. Not all of them certainly but I did notice
from my travels to europe that the houses and roads there are noticeably smaller.
Not surprising since they cram more people in to less space than we do. |
Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #141)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:37 AM
enlightenment (8,830 posts)
154. It's true.
The smallest in Europe, on average, in home space built since 2003 (this is a 2011 study) and tiny compared to the average in the US. Furniture tends to be smaller; not as massively overbuilt and the available space is designed to be utilized efficiently. People in homes tend to spend time in the same rooms at the same time, too. Extra space is a very American concept - just because we have it doesn't mean it's necessary.
As for smaller roads; yes, many of their roads are 'smaller' - they have smaller vehicles, overall. And comprehensive, efficient public transport that minimizes the need for a vehicle at all for many people. I spend a lot of time in the UK and rarely feel like I'm being cramped or don't have enough space (rush hour on the London tube is a different story, I'll grant, but nothing is perfect). ![]() The largest square is the US; the smallest is the UK. US: 2,300sf Australia: 2,217sf Denmark: 1,475sf France: 1,216sf Spain: 1,044sf Ireland: 947sf UK: 818sf http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/average-home-sizes-around-the-151738 |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:20 PM
CaliforniaPeggy (136,264 posts)
9. And this idiot wants to be our chief diplomat and foriegn policy maker???
How to piss off your closest ally, casually!
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:22 PM
JoePhilly (27,787 posts)
11. Breaking News: Mitt Romney buys the UK, plans to use it as his own private island.
Response to JoePhilly (Reply #11)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:52 PM
Moonwalk (2,322 posts)
164. Bulldozes all the small houses to make room for one large compound. "That Buckingham place...
...was large enough for a guest house," Mitt says, "but it was just too old. It had to go."
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:23 PM
arcane1 (38,613 posts)
12. Peeve: who cares if the rest of the world wants to buy their stuff?
I've never understood this whole "compete globally" nonsense.
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Response to arcane1 (Reply #12)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:45 PM
TBF (31,860 posts)
30. "Compete globally" means
wealthy capitalists buy up everything of value in the world to resell at a profit. If you can't get something legally, you send in your army to secure it for you. Luckily England will likely remain off Romney's radar because he sees nothing useful there.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:24 PM
JustAnotherGen (27,352 posts)
14. Oh my
Michelle Obama is walking into a mess when she gets there! This guy is such an idiot. He oughta be ashamed of himself.
And I hope they let her tell the press - because the British press WILL ask about it - "For the first time in a long time, I'm ashamed of America." ![]() |
Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #14)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:00 PM
hifiguy (33,688 posts)
40. The FLOTUS will be her usual gracious, intelligent and elegant
self. And the British press will eat it up and praise her to the moon. Probably contrasting her with Mittwit in the process. It will be to laugh.
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Response to hifiguy (Reply #40)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:14 PM
JustAnotherGen (27,352 posts)
53. She can't get there fast enough!
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Response to hifiguy (Reply #40)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:47 PM
otohara (24,135 posts)
89. Face It England: He's Just Not That Into You
translation: and he/Ann have never found anything they'd like to buy from England.
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Response to otohara (Reply #89)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 10:25 AM
awoke_in_2003 (34,582 posts)
143. Yet the tailors...
of Saville Road make suits that the rich from around the world come to buy.
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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #14)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:53 PM
Rozlee (2,529 posts)
74. When Candidate Obama went there in '08
He was greeted as a rock star. Throughout the U.K., he was met by swooning enthusiastic crowds in the tens of thousands and even, at one place, by 200,000. I take it poor Mitts' visit is a bit more toned down. Well, at least the Brit comedians are having a field day.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:25 PM
AnotherMother4Peace (3,464 posts)
15. Reminds me of Randy Newman's parody song "Short People"
Short People got no reason
Short People got no reason Short People got no reason To live They got little hands Little eyes They walk around Tellin' great big lies They got little noses And tiny little teeth They wear platform shoes On their nasty little feet Well, I don't want no Short People Don't want no Short People Don't want no Short People`Round here Short People are just the same As you and I (A Fool Such As I) All men are brothers |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:26 PM
Motown_Johnny (22,308 posts)
16. and their health care system, worse than Socialism
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:27 PM
Aerows (39,961 posts)
17. Well, now
That's a statement that says "We support the UK", doesn't it?
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:34 PM
Enrique (27,461 posts)
20. England is not an island
who would read a book written by Mitt Romney anyway?
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Response to Enrique (Reply #20)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:42 PM
JaneQPublic (7,074 posts)
25. Mitt, Learn the difference between England, Britain, and UK...
Right after you learn the difference between USSR and Russia.
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Response to Enrique (Reply #20)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:06 PM
libinnyandia (1,374 posts)
45. That was my first reaction.
Response to Enrique (Reply #20)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:13 PM
NYC Liberal (19,216 posts)
50. If England is an island...
The US is a continent because it sits on North America.
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Response to Enrique (Reply #20)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:31 PM
localroger (2,069 posts)
86. Scotland is just a suburb. /nt
Response to Enrique (Reply #20)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 06:09 AM
JustABozoOnThisBus (20,774 posts)
137. Right. It's only half an island
... like Haiti.
I'm sure Romney didn't write any book. He probably just gave a nod to someone who wrote a check to the actual author. And if the book causes any waves, he will deny authorship. The actual author will find himself looking up at the undercarriage of a bus. |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:34 PM
madinmaryland (63,104 posts)
21. Wow! just Wow!
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:34 PM
Aerows (39,961 posts)
22. I'm waiting for him to say
an "adviser" said that, and he doesn't really believe it, even though his name is on the cover.
It's not like he ever thought that. An asshole that won't take responsibility for being an asshole on purpose is infinitely worse than an asshole by accident or an asshole on purpose that owns up to it. |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:38 PM
Gregorian (23,867 posts)
23. This guy is a disaster!
No Mitt, you'd have to go back to the days of England that you would love to see America go to in order to see the gross opulence that you are alluding to. When a chateau was really a chateau, and servants were really servants.
Mitt is GROSS and BOORISH! |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:40 PM
KansDem (28,498 posts)
24. I'm surprised he doesn't chastise them for driving on the wrong side of the road...
Response to KansDem (Reply #24)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 07:02 PM
GetRidOfThem (869 posts)
111. They don't.
We do!
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Response to KansDem (Reply #24)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 06:01 AM
JustABozoOnThisBus (20,774 posts)
136. And the front seat passenger gets the steering wheel
They make their cars backward.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:42 PM
PotatoChip (3,186 posts)
26. Good grief. How embarrassing.
This man better not get anywhere near the Presidency.
8 years of Shrub-style gaffes were more then enough. ![]() |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:44 PM
mwooldri (9,585 posts)
27. So wrong on many counts.
England is on an island that most people refer to as Great Britain. England has a land border (shock horror!) with two other nations.
Small houses? Compared to what? The roads are "adequate". Last I heard England had a rail passenger service that works. Kind of. And though not much gets made here anymore there are plenty of people in the rest of the world willing to buy stuff in the City of London. And if the island of Great Britain was still attached to the European continent (in the land sense), the whole of history would be very different. The Romans would have marched over here. We might have been part of a larger France. Who knows? That's an alternative reality. |
Response to mwooldri (Reply #27)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:14 PM
14thColony (1,515 posts)
52. Well...
While he is a moron, we do have the least living space per person in Europe. At least according to the most reputable source I know: QI.
Beyond that he's a moron of course. |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:45 PM
Hassin Bin Sober (23,818 posts)
28. Rumor is he wants to tear down England and install a car elevator.
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:45 PM
Raster (20,473 posts)
29. Mitt the twit!
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:49 PM
mainer (11,078 posts)
31. "Small houses! Small Roads! It's a nation of Hobbits!"
"Teeny people who don't do anything productive but drink and make merry all day!"
Well, he might as well have said it. |
Response to mainer (Reply #31)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:27 PM
Marrah_G (28,581 posts)
123. Sounds like heaven!
Response to mainer (Reply #31)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 04:43 AM
sarge43 (27,539 posts)
133. Like the Hobbits, they saved our collective ass.
At a terrible cost, they held the line. We owe them more than we can ever repay.
Romney is an ugly fraction of a man. My apologies to men. |
Response to sarge43 (Reply #133)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:49 AM
sibelian (7,804 posts)
157. Can I just say, as a Brit, and on behalf of my dead grandfather,
That you are the first American I have EVER heard say something like this and it means more to me than I can say. Thank you. |
Response to sibelian (Reply #157)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 04:23 PM
sarge43 (27,539 posts)
173. Thank you.
I'm sorry you haven't heard more Americans say thank you. We aren't all Romneys (thank God) and many of us do recognize the debt we owe. Not only your country's valiant defense, also law, language, literature and so much more.
You all have a great Olympic Games. |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:49 PM
ForgoTheConsequence (4,483 posts)
32. They make stuff I want to buy.
The Jaguar XK comes to mind.
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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:04 PM
AlinPA (15,071 posts)
42. I think beer and ale.
Response to AlinPA (Reply #42)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:47 PM
Aerows (39,961 posts)
69. Fish and chips
And wonderfully bitter pale ale.
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Response to Aerows (Reply #69)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:26 AM
spiderpig (10,419 posts)
178. Don't forget the mushy peas!
Response to spiderpig (Reply #178)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 05:13 PM
Aerows (39,961 posts)
179. I hate peas
But I like peapods in stir-fry!
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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:09 PM
Fawke Em (11,366 posts)
48. Their music, too.
Response to Fawke Em (Reply #48)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:58 PM
ForgoTheConsequence (4,483 posts)
75. good point!
Romney doesn't strike me as a fan of The Who or the Stones though. Bet he couldn't name a single song.
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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #48)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:16 PM
treestar (78,373 posts)
98. And we buy books by their authors
Many of them to be studied in academic settings!
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Response to treestar (Reply #98)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 03:57 PM
tblue37 (46,023 posts)
170. And popular titles, too--like, oh, let me see--
the Harry Potter series!
And many of our most successful TV shows are just cheap copies of better versions that were first made in England. |
Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:24 PM
progressivebydesign (19,458 posts)
60. For the ladies: LUSH UK, where it all began, plus Boden which has the most adorable clothes. n/t
Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:14 PM
calimary (61,725 posts)
96. They made stuff I've bought FOR YEARS. BEATLES music, for one.
The entire "British Invasion" in rock music in the '60s, along with Yardley of London cosmetics (I bought nothing BUT their eye makeup for years!), and Mary Quant and Jean Shrimpton who practically LIVED on American magazine covers for years, and Twiggy. All losers nobody ever heard of or was interested in, 'eh? Vivienne Westwood and Alexander McQueen and Stella McCartney, Burberry UK, Philip Treacy and those crazy much-talked-about hats. John Galliano.
Then, too, the MG (my first car, bought used and loved for years), Jaguar, Rolls Royce - the car AND the engines that power huge machinery and aircraft, Austins, the Mini-Coopers, Land Rovers, the Lotus, and more, and let's not forget the Aston Martin. Which brings us to the arts. How 'bout the guy who drove those Aston Martins - James Bond. Gee, that was a nothing dead-end brand that nobody was interested in buying, wasn't it? The BBC and all those dramas and comedies. Mr. Bean etc. Nope, not buying any of those, are we? Monty Python - naaaah. Useless boring uninteresting failures for sure. Absolutely Fabulous? Adele? Another bunch of nobodies. From Charlie Chaplin to Alfred Hitchcock to Cary Grant to BOB HOPE. Yep, he was born in Britain, and his real first name was Leslie. Elizabeth Taylor. Hell, half the rock world is British in origin. Sean Connery, with or without 007. Colin Firth. Patrick Stewart. Emma Thompson. Kenneth Branagh (one of the best actors EVER), Alan Rickman (another one of the best actors EVER) - and speaking of which, Harry Potter Et Al. Yeah, that was a big wash-out, wasn't it - in both book stores AND theaters. Nobody gave a damn about anything some J.K. Rowling wrote, did they? And let's not forget that complete loser Will Shakespeare... Oh yeah, and never mind that our top TV shows were all Americanized versions of BRITISH television, whether it was "All in the Family" or "American Idol." Those were BRITISH inventions. Yeah the Brits. They got NOTHIN'. NOTHING of interest. Nobody even pays attention to those boring stuffy British royal weddings either. Nobody tuned in for any of that. Americans don't give a shit about all that pageantry. That's why nobody ever goes over as tourists to visit London or Stonehenge or Stratford-on-Avon or that big-ass Holy Grail of Golf in Scotland where tom delay and all his little friends just HAD to go on an expensive freebie junket, or anything that they got in trouble for back home. Or Irish linen, English Breakfast tea and Earl Grey tea, Irish Breakfast tea (they should all hold their tongues in romneyland, what with their teabagger bits - where do they think THAT originated???), crumpets, scones and other high tea delights, plaid, heather, English lavender and English roses, corgis, cheddar cheese, and more. The ENTIRE UK, including Ireland and Scotland and Wales. And the Empire that spawned US Americans OURSELVES!!! WHAT AN ARROGANT ASSHOLE romney IS!!!!!! And his arrogant smug snooty wife, too. They're the quintessential Mr. and Mrs. Ugly American, if anybody ever was. Hey shitty mitty - you think Obama was going from country to country "apologizing" for America? I've got BIG news for you, asshole - we're ALL going to be going around the world apologizing for America if YOU somehow manage to buy your way into the White House. Your cash ain't nothin' but TRASH. Just like YOU. |
Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:43 PM
mentalsolstice (4,210 posts)
105. And my MINI
I know it's now German engineered, but it's still British built. For as long as I can drive, I don't want to drive anything else...just wish they would start shipping the diesel model over here.
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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 07:28 PM
smirkymonkey (58,549 posts)
113. And I simply couldn't do without my William and Kate tea towels!
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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 07:30 PM
REP (21,691 posts)
114. Aga Six- Four
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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 10:30 AM
awoke_in_2003 (34,582 posts)
144. DR Harris and Truefitt & Hill...
make some of the best shaving soap and creams you can buy.
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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:09 AM
HughBeaumont (24,461 posts)
150. For the past 50 years, they've done TV comedy 300 times better than Americans.
A killer stream of awesomeness from the mid 60s to the 2010s.
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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:45 AM
Elwood P Dowd (10,899 posts)
156. England and Scotland make some of the finest audio components in the world.
Quad, Linn Sondek, Creek, Rega, Spendor, Tannoy, Exposure, and Goldring just to name a few.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:50 PM
JBoy (8,020 posts)
33. Those little homes have no lifts for their car parks!
And the British don't enjoy making blokes redundant!
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:52 PM
ailsagirl (20,946 posts)
35. No words, just...
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:55 PM
WI_DEM (33,497 posts)
36. He also says if not for divide by continent Hitler would have prevailed!
Response to WI_DEM (Reply #36)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:45 PM
hughee99 (16,113 posts)
68. Given the military situation in 1939-40, I'm not sure Hitler wouldn't have taken the country,
of course, if it weren't for the divide, they probably wouldn't have been spending so much of their military budget on their navy for centuries, so who knows what the situation would have looked like.
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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #36)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:35 PM
pkdu (3,977 posts)
127. So , if not for the Atlantic Ocean , the US would still be British colonies ?
The man is an idiot with aHarvard degree
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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #36)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:28 AM
SunSeeker (44,166 posts)
130. Or it could be that Brits stuck around to fight for their country instead of going on missions!
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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #36)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:09 PM
4th law of robotics (6,801 posts)
160. That is probably true
The brits greatest victory at that point in the war was Dunkirk, a major evacuation.
The german army had just wiped out the much larger french forces with ease. It's doubtful, with a land connection that Britain would have been able to hold back the Huns. They just barely managed as is. |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:58 PM
bigtree (78,962 posts)
37. not the right size . . . that's his ocd thing
trees . . . .
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Response to bigtree (Reply #37)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:37 PM
vanlassie (3,169 posts)
124. I am starting to speculate about his obsession with
the "size" of things. Hmmm.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:58 PM
aint_no_life_nowhere (21,925 posts)
38. I guess Romney never bought phonograph records during his youth
The greatest music during the '60s was coming from that little island.
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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #38)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:59 PM
Jeff In Milwaukee (13,992 posts)
39. Percy Faith was from England?
Who knew?
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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #38)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:36 PM
XemaSab (60,212 posts)
102. He was probably listening to Perry Como
while everyone else was listening to Sgt. Pepper.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:04 PM
Douglas Carpenter (20,226 posts)
43. knr
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:05 PM
HooptieWagon (17,064 posts)
44. Mr Diplomacy...
Not ready for prime time.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:07 PM
coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)
46. Mitt is clearly referring to England post-1066. You know, the year when
Old Europe got all up in the Anglo-Saxons' grill?
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:07 PM
Bobbie Jo (14,341 posts)
47. Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?
Gold medal arrogance.
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Response to Bobbie Jo (Reply #47)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:15 PM
JNelson6563 (28,135 posts)
54. Perfect comparison!
And yes, special kind of arrogance.
I look at it this way, the Brits will love us all the more when we re-elect President Obama. ![]() ![]() Julie |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:11 PM
Liberal_in_LA (44,397 posts)
49. why would he write crap like that?
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #49)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:22 PM
Blue_Tires (55,416 posts)
168. I wonder if he has the stones to admit it was ghostwritten??
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:14 PM
Erose999 (5,624 posts)
51. England is lucky that a body of water separates them from Romney's ambitions.
Response to Erose999 (Reply #51)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:21 PM
hifiguy (33,688 posts)
57. Yeah, but you can't run for King.
So he'd still be out of luck.
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Response to hifiguy (Reply #57)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 08:20 AM
Erose999 (5,624 posts)
138. I don't think Romney would be above playing the game of thrones though.... I mean the Mormons could
probably posthumously baptize Henry VIII and make some sort of claim for the throne. I think this whole "Romney goes to London" thing is just his way of sizing up his chances. ![]() |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:21 PM
Chiyo-chichi (3,093 posts)
56. Not so much a "leak." It's in GoogleBooks for anyone to read. Here's more:
Last edited Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:06 PM - Edit history (1) http://books.google.com/books?id=PDpBpo5CVB4C&printsec=frontcover&dq=mitt+romney+no+apology&source=bl&ots=wGt5MR7o4i&sig=9O7kL5HZdlFWWfYQh4IfwUr_EzM&hl=en&src=bmrr&sa=X&ei=jKYRUPSQAoTerAHcwYHoCQ&ved=0CD4Q6wEwAA#v=onepage&q=mitt%20romney%20no%20apology&f=false
"China, Spain, Britain, and the Ottomans expressly or effectively retreated behind barriers to foreign trade, each convinced that competition had made them weaker. Their retreat from the marketplace of ideas and their retreat from the marketplace of goods inevitable led the their retreat from the pinnacle of leadership.” (40-41) “…the British culture of order, organization, and rigid structure—once assets in Britain’s conquest of nations in the undeveloped world—may have prevented it from developing the risk-taking approach and entrepreneurialism critical in free markets. Culture did indeed make a difference.” (41) “The history of leading nations that have fallen has even more to teach us, however, perhaps at a more fundamental level. In the face of evident decline, why do nations fail to act? Are there cases where nations instead have acted to halt their decline? What accounts for the difference between the two? The answers to these questions may be the most instructive because they can suggest a course of vigilance in the modern world very different from that of the Ottomans, the Spanish, the Portuguese, or even the British.” (42) So... according to Mitt... Britain has retreated from the marketplace of ideas, they are risk-averse and are not entrepreneurial because of their rigid structure and culture, and they are a fallen nation. This is the DU member formerly known as Chiyo-chichi.
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Response to Chiyo-chichi (Reply #56)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:48 PM
Viking12 (6,012 posts)
71. but the only people to have read the book are opposiiton researchers
so the information is kind of like a secret
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Response to Viking12 (Reply #71)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:51 PM
Chiyo-chichi (3,093 posts)
73. Fair enough.
This is the DU member formerly known as Chiyo-chichi.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:22 PM
alphafemale (16,664 posts)
58. Mitt the Twit is really a gift that keeps on giving, isn't he?
oh my
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:23 PM
sinkingfeeling (43,906 posts)
59. To be fair, every country's houses are small compared to his 11,000
square foot places.
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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #59)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:37 AM
SunSeeker (44,166 posts)
131. Oh come on, he lived in his son's basement...
Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #59)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:55 AM
JPZenger (6,819 posts)
159. There houses are so small, they even can't fit car elevators
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:27 PM
Douglas Carpenter (20,226 posts)
61. I just posted that quote on the Telegraph's comment section - I suggest we all post this quote on
the comment sections of all the British newspapers and tabloids that are carrying stories about Romney. Let this story clobber Romney while he is sojourning in the U.K.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:28 PM
Kalidurga (14,177 posts)
62. Mitt should have hired a plagiarist like GW did to write his book...
it might not have had so many gaffes.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:33 PM
OmahaBlueDog (10,000 posts)
63. K & R
Thanks, Grantcart
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:40 PM
mikeytherat (6,829 posts)
64. Don't want to buy? Hell, they make something I NEED to buy: Newcastle Brown Ale
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:41 PM
northoftheborder (7,301 posts)
65. Duzy Award material in this thread!
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:45 PM
Diclotican (5,095 posts)
67. grantcart
grantcart
wow, and he was on a sharm offensive in the UK some claim?.... Diclotican |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:47 PM
fishwax (28,681 posts)
70. what an idiot.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:50 PM
Chiyo-chichi (3,093 posts)
72. Another thing England makes that the world wants to buy: dressage saddles!
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:01 PM
longship (40,416 posts)
76. What? No dentistry gaff yet?
Have to contribute to a DUzy worthy thread.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:02 PM
tclambert (10,627 posts)
77. So, if Romney wins . . . war with England?
Isn't that how Republicans do diplomacy?
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:04 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)
78. Does this idiot have any idea of English pride in weathering the blitz?
They were hit by bombs that took out whole blocks of buildings back when "blockbuster" wasn't a summer movie or a video rental store.
Romney would have cut a deal with Hitler to buy and sell England for quick buck. |
Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #78)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 10:37 AM
awoke_in_2003 (34,582 posts)
145. No, he has no idea...
like many other deluded Americans, he likes to think that we swooped in like Underdog and saved the day. The Brits fought like hell until we decided to pull our heads out and join the fight.
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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #145)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 02:40 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)
169. Hitler declaring war on us made that decision for us.
Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #169)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 04:19 PM
awoke_in_2003 (34,582 posts)
172. Yep...
we probably wouldn't have jumped in had he not. We would have been happy just sitting back and making money on Lend/Lease
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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #172)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 08:08 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)
174. Not to mention the ambitions of the Right who wanted to Assassinate FDR.
That bonehead play set them back 100 years.
There's a general sense of urgency on their part. That's the only thing that explains how blatant they have been. Between SuperPacs and offering the the Tea Party as a solution to their draining the world's treasury. Maybe they're just so far behind the times that they never got the memo about a digital age and they think that if it doesn't make it to the 6 O'clock News then it never happened. |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:04 PM
Whisp (24,096 posts)
79. geeze that's bad
reminds me of a kid in school that didn't study and had to make something up on the spot.
what a doofus |
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:17 PM
allan01 (1,950 posts)
81. re:Romney on England: "It is a small island . . doesn't make things. . the world wants to buy".
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:19 PM
Mendocino (5,539 posts)
83. Ah yes, chickenhawk Romney thinks he's
an expert on war, based on his extensive experiences avoiding it.
This is the DU member formerly known as Mendocino.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:23 PM
tclambert (10,627 posts)
84. As long as he promises to protect the island of England from the Soviet Union,
he'll have all that diplomacy stuff mastered.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:27 PM
DearAbby (12,461 posts)
85. Romney staff offended their British hosts
by tossing a quarter at a local historian, to pay for a rat to gnaw that thing off her face.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:33 PM
limpyhobbler (8,244 posts)
87. oh my...how embarrassing
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:35 PM
Vinca (45,751 posts)
88. Amazing. I hope the Guardian picks it up.
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:48 PM
gkhouston (21,642 posts)
90. Well, Romney should certainly be an expert on putting out things no one wants to buy... n/t
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:53 PM
panader0 (22,072 posts)
91. Hey Mitt--what language did you write your book in?
Oh yeah, Amurcan...
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:59 PM
Courtesy Flush (4,558 posts)
92. Here it is in context
Just in case you want to be sure he's not being misinterpreted. (He's not.)
Starting near the bottom of page 39... http://books.google.com/books?id=PDpBpo5CVB4C&lpg=PP1&pg=PA39#v=onepage&q&f=false |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:00 PM
Spirochete (5,264 posts)
93. Well, it has been 200 years
since we've had a war with GB. We're liable to be in another one by the time Numbnuts is done over there. What a knob!
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:11 PM
Iterate (3,012 posts)
94. The quote's been picked up by other sites and spread via twitter
Response to Iterate (Reply #94)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:30 PM
grantcart (51,208 posts)
100. I have emailed to the Guardian.
thanks for the update
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:14 PM
wendylaroux (2,925 posts)
95. What is going on with this man?
Is he trying to loose? I mean, what the hell?
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Response to wendylaroux (Reply #95)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:19 PM
CountAllVotes (19,338 posts)
99. he wants to win
... not lose ...
He is not a practical candidate. Soon others will see this aspect of this idiot. *sigh* |
Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #99)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:49 PM
calimary (61,725 posts)
106. It's that CEO mentality talking. He's the chief executive. So might as well say "king."
The latter day version of absolute monarch as a "captain of industry." To whom everyone beneath him (and as CEO, that means EVERYONE is beneath him) bows and scrapes.
The CEO's word is law and no one questions it, especially since he likes firing people who serve him. That alone leaves him extremely ill-equipped to be a public servant, which the President of the United States is. |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:41 PM
Initech (86,664 posts)
103. They don't say y'all or like cheesy grits in England.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:41 PM
Rosa Luxemburg (28,627 posts)
104. Was he hoping that Hitler invaded England?
sounds like it
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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #104)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:57 PM
freshwest (53,661 posts)
108. He's with the Koch family, check out this by Thom Hartmann on MM & V. Devastating:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=44227
The transcript is there in addition to the video. Yes, Romney would have probably thought it be best if Hitler won, just like the Koch family. It's laid out so plain, it's mind boggling. |
Response to freshwest (Reply #108)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:07 PM
Rosa Luxemburg (28,627 posts)
110. it's very worrying
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:51 PM
freshwest (53,661 posts)
107. OMG this quote should be posted on the UK board. It would be delicious to hear them go at Mittens!
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:02 PM
nxylas (6,440 posts)
109. Watch his approval rating among Republican voters shoot up
"He sure showed those foreigners who's boss, ah hyuck hyuck".
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 07:34 PM
DippyDem (611 posts)
115. OMG!! I just saw this on The Ed Show! Grantcart sure is spreading it around! LOL!
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 08:06 PM
Deb (3,572 posts)
116. Dear England
Ignore the Village Idiot.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 08:19 PM
90-percent (6,483 posts)
117. that ones gonna leave a mark
"And if it hadn't been separated from the continent by water, it almost certainly would have been lost to Hitler's ambitions"
Just how ignorant can one man be? The entire British populations character and resolve was tested by Hitler and they beat him. By sheer guts and bravery and valor and determination. And an exceptionally wise and cagey Franklin Roosevelt. Churchill was pretty brilliant, also. To attribute their WW2 victory merely to the English Channel is one hell of an insult to all British people and their forefathers. I hope this gaffe has legs and longevity. And remind me never to ask Mitt to help me with my history term papers. -90% jimmy |
Response to 90-percent (Reply #117)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:43 PM
NBachers (13,516 posts)
125. Mitt would've got the Hershey Squirts every time the air raid siren went off
Nobody sings it like Dame Vera Lynn:
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 08:48 PM
peacebird (14,195 posts)
119. The Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Monty Python, Shakespeare, and too many thespians to mention...
Nah, that little island produces nothing people want to buy.....
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 08:54 PM
moondust (16,772 posts)
120. "Old Europe"
What if they remember our Republicans?
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:04 PM
Phlem (6,323 posts)
121. Don't diss on Marshall Amps Mitwit
Maybe they aren't made there anymore but it was the birthplace.
man what moran! -p |
Response to Phlem (Reply #121)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 04:53 AM
harmonicon (12,008 posts)
134. Better amps are still made in the UK.
I have a friend from Australia who came here specifically so that he could make guitar amps. Check out Matamp and Hayden. They both blow Marshall out of the water. Laney still makes some of their amps in the UK as well. There are other companies I'm forgetting as well, of course.
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Response to harmonicon (Reply #134)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:25 AM
aint_no_life_nowhere (21,925 posts)
153. I bought a Marshall 100 watt stack in London in 1968
at the Rose Morris Showroom on Shaftesbury Avenue. Great amp. I listened to pretty much all the amps they had including the sounds I heard from groups using them live in clubs and I thought Marshalls just had that crisp, crunchy sound like Hendrix got that you couldn't get with any other amp. I tried Laney, Orange, Hi-Watt, Sound City, Wem and I couldn't get that Marshall sound from anything else. The Vox AC 30 was a cool amp for its crisp crystalline sound and portability but it just didn't do it either. I had a U.S. made Sunn with two cabinets and that didn't give me that sound either, although Hendrix went through a period of using Sunn amps instead of Marshalls. I guess it depends on what sound texture you like.
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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #153)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:42 AM
harmonicon (12,008 posts)
155. It depends on the specific amp model and year as well.
Some of those companies used the same manufacturers at times, some manufacturers switched factories, etc. I know that early Orange amps were made by Matamp, and I think there was some overlap between Orange and Marshall at some point, as far as manufacturing goes.
Do you still have that Marshall? I hope for your sake you do. |
Response to harmonicon (Reply #155)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:25 PM
aint_no_life_nowhere (21,925 posts)
161. Unfortunately, I experienced a financial crisis in about 1980
and I had no choice but to sell the Sunn stack, the Marshall stack, along with a pre-CBS strat and telecaster, 1961 Gibson ES 335, vintage Gibson Les Paul Special with the P-90s, and vintage Epiphone Broadway. I even had to get rid of my beautiful 1960 Jaguar Mark II 3.8 sedan. I had no idea that collectors would one day put these things out of reach. They were very affordable when I originally bought them. The store in London gladly took 6 crisp $100 bills US for the Marshall stack when I bought it new.
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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #161)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:42 PM
harmonicon (12,008 posts)
162. I'm sorry to hear that.
The pricing of vintage instruments has become insane.
When I was first getting into music in the late 80's and early 90's, 70's and early 80's Fenders were seen as junk and were still really affordable. Now those same guitars are sought-after. It used to be that people wanted pre-CBS or nothing. Now, pre-CBS fenders are out of the price-range of even most pro musicians, unless they're of the wealthy sort. |
Response to harmonicon (Reply #162)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:49 PM
aint_no_life_nowhere (21,925 posts)
163. It is nuts
I paid $100 for the used pre-CBS telecaster when I bought it at a music store in Georgia in 1966. Good guitar. It wasn't considered collectible back then. Back then, a high school kid mowing lawns could afford a real good guitar. Nowadays, a kid mowing lawns can afford a piece of crap made in China.
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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #163)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:08 PM
harmonicon (12,008 posts)
166. I wish I would have had musicians in my family to give me some guidance at that time.
My first bass I got in '89 was a piece of crap made in who-knows-where. By the time I replaced it a year or two later, one tuner was falling apart, and it had serious gouges in the frets. Still, that bass - a Kramer - isn't worth squat now. For about that same price, I could have got a 10 year old USA fender, which would be worth double to triple now. *sigh* live and learn.
I really want a new guitar now, but I'm holding out until I can afford the vintage gibson that I really want, because I know that it won't go down in value, and if it's lasted 50 years, it will last 50 more just fine. Neither are likely true of many new guitars. |
Response to harmonicon (Reply #134)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:40 PM
Phlem (6,323 posts)
175. Yes
but I'v never heard of those so I'll have to check them out, Yeay! Like a kid in a toy store. I bought Marshall DSL100 JCM 2000 A while ago and it sits on a Laney top cab. It is just sweet, even w/o effects!
I'm clueless as to where they were manufactured. ![]() -p |
Response to Phlem (Reply #121)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 08:34 AM
Erose999 (5,624 posts)
139. Hiwatt and Vox too.
Response to Erose999 (Reply #139)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:05 PM
xtraxritical (3,576 posts)
165. Back in the day I had a Vox Berkeley II with a Beatle bottom.
The bottom had 4 - "12s and 2 midrange horns. This along with a Gibson SG standard. I could retire on that stuff now!
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:18 PM
Smilo (1,919 posts)
122. And yet........
he is quite happy to take their money.
Romney, has any Brit called you a wanker yet? Because they should. |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:26 PM
Populist_Prole (5,364 posts)
126. They also make the best jet engines in the business
Thousands of airliners flying with Rolls Royce engines. Rugged and reliable.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:19 AM
and-justice-for-all (14,765 posts)
128. That is bloody insulting as fuck!!
I hope that gets sent across the pond for them to print so they can show the citizens what are repuke fuckwads are saying about them.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:26 AM
Tom Ripley (4,945 posts)
129. I certainly want to buy a Dallas Rangemaster and the chair that Christine Keeler sat in
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:38 AM
Raster (20,473 posts)
132. "...doesn't make things. . the world wants to buy".
Yes, like your bullshit!
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:11 AM
Douglas Carpenter (20,226 posts)
135. Does Gov. Romney even know that England is NOT an island? It is located on one of the British Isles
which it shares with Wales and Scotland. There is no island of England. If this was an innocent comment by a tourist stumbling around Piccadilly Circus - it would be a forgivable faux pas. But this geographic ignorance in a book written by the potential leader of the free world?
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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #135)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 04:17 PM
tblue37 (46,023 posts)
171. I am reminded of Sarah Palin's comment about the "country" of Africa. nt
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 08:38 AM
Iterate (3,012 posts)
140. The quote is now mentioned in a ForeignPolicy blog!
"Romney book: Britain is a tiny island that makes stuff nobody wants"
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/07/26/romney_book_britain_is_a_tiny_island_that_makes_stuff_nobody_wants A gaffe seldom has legs or lasting impact in an election, but such an idiotic and easily refuted claim written by a candidate is a whole 'nother animal riding on the roof. "No Apology" just makes him known as proudly careless, incompetent, and willfully dumb. |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 10:45 AM
agentS (1,325 posts)
146. I'm gonna hear about this all week from my English friends!
Thanks Mr Rmoney, for once again making Americans look bad.
The book is called "no apology?". Should be called "no brains". No wonder the English think he's an asshole. He can't write worth a damn and act polite in public. |
Response to agentS (Reply #146)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 10:47 AM
agentS (1,325 posts)
147. That racist quote about Obama from RMoney's aide last week- I certainly believe it now!
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 10:56 AM
Walk away (9,494 posts)
148. I am hoping that Mitt's visit to Poland produces something classic
I'll be disappointed if there isn't a little verbal slapstick!
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:07 AM
Betty Jo (66 posts)
149. Bain Companies in England
How much money is Romey/Ann/Blind Trusts etc making from all of the Bain properties in England? It is very time consuming to try to figure all this out.Romeny needs to once and for all list all of the companies he has monetary interests in all over the world.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:20 AM
malthaussen (14,088 posts)
151. So, in a nutshell:
"Ann and I really appreciate our Anglo-Saxon heritage. Oh, and by the way: you suck."
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:22 AM
slackmaster (60,567 posts)
152. Oh now THAT'S funny
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:53 AM
JPZenger (6,819 posts)
158. And while Britain was fighting Hitler, your family was....?
When Britain and the Commonwealth Nations were standing up alone to Hitler during 1940-41, where was Romney's family? Weren't they hiding out in Mexico so they could have a few wives?
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:15 PM
Blue_Tires (55,416 posts)
167. I'll take a half-dozen of these, please:
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 07:27 AM
Londoncalling (66 posts)
176. He must have got a shock watching the Olympic Ceremony
He clearly didn't realise GB is the country of the Industrial Revolution...He saw a country with innovaction, creativity, culture, tolerance, that is self-mocking, humourous with Conservatives that want to legalise Gay Marriage and support Obama, because they think Mitt is a dim wit.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:42 AM
undeterred (34,658 posts)
177. He's an educated man who thinks the rest of the world is made up of idiots.
So while he is dumbing things down for us, he only makes himself look like a fool.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 05:32 PM
Marr (20,317 posts)
180. I don't understand why he'd go out of his way to insult a long time ally like that.
Surely he could pursue the support of his knuckledragging supporters without insulting friends.
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