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Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:31 AM

 

For these reasons, I believe Mueller will indict Trump.

Trump has made a complete mockery of the presidency, our democracy and our laws. He has done and is doing things that no normal person ,normal president would never think of doing. He is mentally abnormal to say the least. He has become a major national security threat.

Trump has proven our laws do not fully protect us from a mentally abnormal, dangerous president. That has to change.

The number one protection we have against a dangerous president is the power of impeachment. Republicans in congress have proven they may not use this power. Republican voters and republicans in congress have proven that millions of people will follow a madman till their destruction. History has shown us that millions of people willing to follow a madman to their deaths is not unique. It's common.

Mueller is a patriot. He will put country first. He is a marine. Never fuck with a marine. Mueller is going to bring serious charges against Trump. One of the charges may be conspiring with the enemy against America. Traitor. Mueller will recommend impeachment but he knows that may not work.

I believe he will indict Trump on many charges. That will go to the Supreme Court because no one knows if a president can be indicted or not. I believe mueller will bring such a strong case against Trump the supreme court will side with Mueller.

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Reply For these reasons, I believe Mueller will indict Trump. (Original post)
shockey80 Feb 2018 OP
katmondoo Feb 2018 #1
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greymattermom Feb 2018 #3
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cilla4progress Feb 2018 #5
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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:33 AM

1. I can only hope

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Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:33 AM

2. I hope it is soon.

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Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:34 AM

3. Another option

is for Mueller to take down Trump's family, one by one, then take down his money. Leave him to live in poverty with Melania. Then she will leave with Barron. He won't have 150K for his sex habits, so he'll have to go it alone. He'll sell Mar a Lago and all of his golf courses.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:02 AM

4. if i understand the doj policies, mueller would recommend indictment but rosenstein would be the one

who actually indicts him.

as for the supreme court, the strength of the case against donnie has little to do with it. even if the case is overwhelming, the supreme court properly needs to consider the risk of some future prosecutor bringing a weak case against the president, and also consider the risks to the constitution of taking away from a president's constitutional responsibilities to stand trial for crimes for which he is officially presumed innocent.

actually, those are two separate questions:
1) can a sitting president be indicted -- i think the answer is an easy yes. there's virtually no reason to object to this.
2) can a sitting president by tried -- i think the answer has to be yes, but this is a far more legitimate question as it can be a major distraction from a president's legitimate duties, so at least there is a constitutional argument for no. of course, *this* president has demonstrated that he has ample spare time to golf and such, so i don't think the "distraction from constitutional duties" argument plays well in this case.

having said all that highfalutin statesmanly crap, the supreme court may very well act on purely partisan lines.

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Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:13 AM

5. The only way our country can redeem itself

After this mess is a complete and total takedown of the trump global crime syndicate. As long as it takes, Mr. Mueller. As long as it takes.

Aspiring democracies around the world are watching.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:30 AM

6. Sorry, but nothing in your argument supports your assertion.

Trump has made a complete mockery of the presidency, our democracy and our laws. He has done and is doing things that no normal person ,normal president would never think of doing. He is mentally abnormal to say the least. He has become a major national security threat.


It's not Mueller's job to "protect the Presidentcy". It's his job to investigate whether crimes have occurred.

Trump has proven our laws do not fully protect us from a mentally abnormal, dangerous president. That has to change.


The danger of a "mentally abnormal, dangerous president" is also not relevant if there are not crimes involved.

The number one protection we have against a dangerous president is the power of impeachment. Republicans in congress have proven they may not use this power.


It would be presumptuous of Mueller or any law enforcement officer to assume non-action on the part of another Government body, and then take action to compensate for it.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:34 AM

7. None of the things you mention support your assertion.

I doubt trump will be indicted. I think it will be up to the Congress to impeach and convict him.

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