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kpete

(71,984 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:28 PM Feb 2018

Source inside WH: "Everyone knows the jig is up."

Hope this is true...


@JYSexton
Just got in touch with one of my old sources inside the Trump Campaign who raised alarms about Russian interference. According to him, "Everyone knows the jig is up."





More from this thread below:






He told me the feeling when Mueller got appointed was that maybe this investigation might end up with a hazy narrative of what happened, but the minute people read the Manafort indictment "the air came out of the balloon."

The feeling inside Trumpland isn't that Trump is desperate, but that he's convinced himself there was no collusion. They've rumored about delusion for awhile, but that seems to be the prevailing opinion now.

Nobody I talked to was engaged in these meetings or negotiations with Russian nationals. They'd always heard these rumors and innuendo and were always suspicious of Manafort, Flynn, et al. The rumors and innuendo, however, have all been reflected in what's made it out.

For a lot of the workers and staffers inside the campaign it's become a paranoid life filled with lawyers. A lot of them who got in to have a job in national politics or a future media gig in "Trump TV" regret having helped Trump and fallen into this.

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Source inside WH: "Everyone knows the jig is up." (Original Post) kpete Feb 2018 OP
Delusion about collusion? Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2018 #1
Confusion! dchill Feb 2018 #2
Pack you bags. You're hired! N/t Jeroen Feb 2018 #30
In Profusion! NRaleighLiberal Feb 2018 #31
Conclusion? OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #68
Covfefe ! dweller Feb 2018 #86
For all involved with subterfusion OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #88
Better yet Subdiffusion 👈🏻 Unhumble Winner OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #89
Sounds like a hit song! 👍 FM123 Feb 2018 #4
to this hit.... spanone Feb 2018 #10
👍 FM123 Feb 2018 #20
from 1956....i was in kindergarten & i remember it 😎 spanone Feb 2018 #22
I believe this is the song that Doctor Demento got his name from paulkienitz Feb 2018 #52
he used to play it pretty often spanone Feb 2018 #53
Ha! My brother's favorite song when he was seven or eight years old. maddiemom Feb 2018 #57
It's just an illusion BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #61
Collusion delusion what's your function...... Fullduplexxx Feb 2018 #42
Orange protrusion Hassler Feb 2018 #69
I questioned that, too. Cha Feb 2018 #79
Kick! smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #3
Trump TV is proud to bring you 'Life in Prison, Huge Ego Will Get You Time' Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #5
MSNBC can do prison shows on Trump and his cohorts in prison. "Trump on the Rock!" n/t RKP5637 Feb 2018 #36
It took them a year to figure that out? Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #6
Duped useful idiot defense Freethinker65 Feb 2018 #7
Grain of salt until inner circle person Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2018 #8
Keep in mind, Trump may NOT have been guilty of collusion... brooklynite Feb 2018 #9
Yeah when they're all in jail, Cheeto can keep on saying that FakeNoose Feb 2018 #11
One would surmise they kept the useful idiot in the dark GusBob Feb 2018 #12
Not sure that matters.. honest.abe Feb 2018 #14
Welcome to DU, honest.abe! calimary Feb 2018 #66
Call me a fool but I don't think Trump obstructed justice on Air Force One because he was worried about Don Jr. nocalflea Feb 2018 #15
"Russia, if you're listening..." poboy2 Feb 2018 #16
I watched him collude on TV. There isn't a way to make that go away. lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #21
Yes! Chicago SunTimes: Donald Trump and Benedict Arnold Cha Feb 2018 #80
They'll get Benedict Donald on obstruction of justice uponit7771 Feb 2018 #47
If Trump isn't guilty, he deserves an academy award for playing a guilty person stevenleser Feb 2018 #76
lol.. ain't it so! Cha Feb 2018 #81
If this is true, which I suspect it is.. honest.abe Feb 2018 #13
Then why aren't they walking out? lame54 Feb 2018 #17
I don't feel the slightest bit of sympathy for any of the people working in The White House. madaboutharry Feb 2018 #18
Correct. And they'll land on their feet elsewhere, no problem. appalachiablue Feb 2018 #72
What I noticed about Mueller's word-choice: "conspiracy" Hekate Feb 2018 #19
regrets, but not honor..... getagrip_already Feb 2018 #25
When time is right rats scurry to seek a host/opportunity elsewhere, always. appalachiablue Feb 2018 #70
Mueller is using the word "conspiracy" because it is a specific federal crime. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #32
yes, and I don't think "collusion" NewJeffCT Feb 2018 #39
It has a legal meaning only in antitrust law. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #41
People used to go to the electric chair for that sort of thing Hekate Feb 2018 #43
Yes, if the underlying crime is espionage. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #44
I know Hekate Feb 2018 #50
Some very meaningful punishments or disincentive.... magicarpet Feb 2018 #75
Sigh. No. Your response is the reason I generally keep thoughts like this to myself. Hekate Feb 2018 #77
Oh no.... I don't mean Mueller is acting alone. magicarpet Feb 2018 #78
I hear ya! C Moon Feb 2018 #84
True, that. Sam McGee Feb 2018 #49
Then do the right thing. Contact DOJ and ferret out these traitors! ffr Feb 2018 #23
In the words of Seinfeld bronxiteforever Feb 2018 #24
I call BS on this: debsy Feb 2018 #26
I think the significant part is that Trump has convinced himself... Shrike47 Feb 2018 #56
The man actually sees the fine clothes, Collimator Feb 2018 #83
If Trump was elected with Russian collusion, then so was Pence. keithbvadu2 Feb 2018 #27
Pence, that evil little shit! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2018 #38
Since Manafort arranged for Pence to be veep, I surely hope Mueller has Pence in his sights nt Hekate Feb 2018 #45
If the band is playing "Nearer, My God, to Thee" C_U_L8R Feb 2018 #28
i Hope the jig really is up.....well we don't have to worry about Dotar doing onecent Feb 2018 #29
Oh please let this be true Botany Feb 2018 #33
Beware of false prophets, Xipe Totec Feb 2018 #34
I disagree. lark Feb 2018 #35
Cry me a river. ananda Feb 2018 #37
I don't feel bad for them one bit. Lazy Daisy Feb 2018 #40
Remind them . . . Sam McGee Feb 2018 #46
They all knew what kind of person he is, to include being a traitor. Scalded Nun Feb 2018 #48
Maybe Trump can keep saying No Collusion, No Delusion dem4decades Feb 2018 #51
I think there is a profusion..... mitch96 Feb 2018 #54
That makes me want to dance a jig! greatauntoftriplets Feb 2018 #55
Hey Cheetolini! TwistOneUp Feb 2018 #58
Trump was the criminal genius who masterminded the great heist of all time many a good man Feb 2018 #59
If wishes were fishes Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #60
Please be true! mvd Feb 2018 #62
Gosh, I feel badly for those who have "...fallen into this." BobTheSubgenius Feb 2018 #63
If they regret jumping on the Trumpmobile, they can get off at the next stop. This art. seems off. Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #64
Have they started quitting yet? Ilsa Feb 2018 #65
This is predicted weekly here.. Yet nothing happens. nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #67
There are many false starts when moving towards any major change. Collimator Feb 2018 #85
His staff and workers are the worst of America. I don't feel sorry even for the most pathetic NCjack Feb 2018 #71
I hope that these tweets are correct Gothmog Feb 2018 #73
The jig is a fine dance: panader0 Feb 2018 #74
I hope the "jig is up" for all of them Progressive dog Feb 2018 #82
If they really believe that, then why are we not seeing mass resignations? PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #87

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
89. Better yet Subdiffusion 👈🏻 Unhumble Winner
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 04:03 PM
Feb 2018

.....
to difuse emphasis on a subject at hand by implementing a distraction mechanism.
sub (meaning below)refering to the fact that the act of diffusing should flow below the level of conciousness of the other persons. (they don't know ya doin it)


paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
52. I believe this is the song that Doctor Demento got his name from
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:25 PM
Feb 2018

he played it on the radio and somebody told him "you must be demented."

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
9. Keep in mind, Trump may NOT have been guilty of collusion...
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:40 PM
Feb 2018

His campaign team may have, but just let him go out to make his speeches and didn't involve him in campaign strategy.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
11. Yeah when they're all in jail, Cheeto can keep on saying that
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:46 PM
Feb 2018

Even if Cheeto himself doesn't get convicted on collusion most of his family will. And Mueller will get him on RICO charges (money laundering and tax evasion) that were already being investigated even before the Trussia thing.

He's going to be sorry he ever thought about running for the presidency. I know WE all are.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
12. One would surmise they kept the useful idiot in the dark
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:48 PM
Feb 2018

He would have blabbed about it, as he does

The way he idols Putin he would have bragged about it!

honest.abe

(8,677 posts)
14. Not sure that matters..
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:53 PM
Feb 2018

The house of cards are about to fall and Trump will be fall with them, one way or another.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
66. Welcome to DU, honest.abe!
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:16 PM
Feb 2018

Michael Dukakis once said "the fish rots from the head."

There is a reason why trump fawns over the Russians. Blames everybody BUT the Russians. Damn near blows kisses to Putin. NEVER says anything negative about Putin. There's a REASON for this.

Either he's their go-to money-laundering partner, or the banks over there are deep into him (having lent him money), or the oligarchs are deep into him (having lent him money), or maybe he's already heard from a well-connected operative who's reminded him of what can happen when Putin thinks one of his pets isn't obeying or performing up to expectations. Maybe he's already being blackmailed.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
15. Call me a fool but I don't think Trump obstructed justice on Air Force One because he was worried about Don Jr.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:57 PM
Feb 2018

Don Jr. immediately called Daddy for help when the Tower meeting story was breaking. Donnie Jr. does nothing without his father's consent.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. I watched him collude on TV. There isn't a way to make that go away.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:07 PM
Feb 2018

He colluded and everybody knows it. Mueller is simply adding depth and color to the story.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
80. Yes! Chicago SunTimes: Donald Trump and Benedict Arnold
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:38 AM
Feb 2018
"Instead of mobilizing forces to our nation’s aid, the president, like Benedict Arnold at West Point, has allowed our defenses to crumble."

snip//

” We cannot trust the president, not because of what he may or may not have done in secret in the past, but because of what he is clearly doing or, rather, not doing, right now: defending our country against foreign enemies."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=201803

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
76. If Trump isn't guilty, he deserves an academy award for playing a guilty person
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 08:19 PM
Feb 2018

he acts like someone who feels guilty and is desperately attempting to get people to think he isn't guilty, which is having the exact opposite effect.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
81. lol.. ain't it so!
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:41 AM
Feb 2018
Chicago SunTimes: Donald Trump and Benedict Arnold

"Instead of mobilizing forces to our nation’s aid, the president, like Benedict Arnold at West Point, has allowed our defenses to crumble."

snip//

” We cannot trust the president, not because of what he may or may not have done in secret in the past, but because of what he is clearly doing or, rather, not doing, right now: defending our country against foreign enemies."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=201803

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
18. I don't feel the slightest bit of sympathy for any of the people working in The White House.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:01 PM
Feb 2018

They all heard the hate pouring out of Trump's mouth from the day he announced his candidacy.

They signed on.

And nothing, absolutely nothing, is keeping them from doing the right thing and calling Mueller on the phone and arranging a little talk. They know where to reach him and Mueller would be glad to hear what they have to say.

It is their shame. They have to own it.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
19. What I noticed about Mueller's word-choice: "conspiracy"
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:03 PM
Feb 2018

The Mad King may be delusional about the vagueness of "collusion" but there is nothing vague about "conspiracy."

Regrets? I'm sure they (the staff) have a few.

getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
25. regrets, but not honor.....
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:12 PM
Feb 2018

They are still there, contributing to the destruction of democracy.

They are just sad they won't get away with t and be hero's.

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
70. When time is right rats scurry to seek a host/opportunity elsewhere, always.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:51 PM
Feb 2018

These rodents thrive in an environment based on competition and predator survival ideology. They'll do anything, at all costs and will be fine. The rest of the country, damaged for decades possibly.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
32. Mueller is using the word "conspiracy" because it is a specific federal crime.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:39 PM
Feb 2018

And it's a crime that will stick to you if you came anywhere near it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
41. It has a legal meaning only in antitrust law.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:54 PM
Feb 2018

Il Douche can yammer all he wants about the nonexistence crime of "collusion," but it's the real crime of conspiracy that's likely to bite him and his defective spawn in the butt.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
44. Yes, if the underlying crime is espionage.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:08 PM
Feb 2018

I don't think anybody will go to the chair, but I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that somebody could be charged with espionage.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
50. I know
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:14 PM
Feb 2018

But I am highly pissed-off that my country has been invaded and possibly taken over without a shot being fired.

Maybe hanging should be brought back instead.

Damn am I angry.

magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
75. Some very meaningful punishments or disincentive....
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 08:17 PM
Feb 2018

..... have to be imposed by Mueller, so down the road people think twice, 3X, better yet 10X before pulling a stunt like this type of treason this nest of tr-dump vipers engaged in.

Like maybe build a wooden gallows and place it on the front lawn of the White House. Then broadcast coast to coast as the hangman teaches a few of these traitors a lesson. Espionage, treason, making a mockery of your oath of office, selling out Democracy to create - an Oligarchy, - a Fascist Autocracy, - and/or a Fundamentalists Reconstructionist Christian Theocracy is not under any circumstances fine and dandy.

In fact these ideas are particularly frowned upon and will accordingly be punish severely to express the universal national anger and displeasure that such liberties to sell out the country by design were even thought about or ever secretly and covertly taken.

This is a shameful blotch of time that has been brought upon and tarnish our history. We may not be able to entirely erase it, but surely we can eradicate it from our government as rapidly and thoroughly as we possibly can.

Then begin the healing process - repair the damages and injuries - and then move on with the knowledge we must never reiterate the same mistakes that got us here - ever - ever again.

With Mueller's expertise and the talented team of Patriots he assembled - we dogged this bullet - but only by the skin of our teeth. But never the less we - some far more so - were incoherently led 3/4 of the way down this dark rabbit hole of Hyper-Fascist Oligarchic inspired Hyper-Capitalist Christian Dominionist Theocratic no man or woman's land of returning to feudalism.

Who could have known freedom and Democracy could be so perishable if it is not care for, properly pruned and supported, and looked over with a keen eye and steady hand.

It is all our jobs to keep this ship of state afloat. Donald J. Trump and his mindless/brainless/thoughtless band of minions ain't going to do that for us. It was a fool's errand to think he would or he could.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
77. Sigh. No. Your response is the reason I generally keep thoughts like this to myself.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 08:47 PM
Feb 2018

Mueller's job is not to act as judge, jury, and executioner. All the various functions of the Justice Department and indeed the entire legal system are kept separate for a very good reason.

magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
78. Oh no.... I don't mean Mueller is acting alone.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:06 PM
Feb 2018

.... or acting as a judge, jury, executioner, or hangman.

Mueller knows very well that he is only a component in our system of checks and balances. That his why he takes the time to build a case - because he know the case is going against the review of a jury and a judge who renders the final verdict. That again is a component in our system of checks and balances.

What tr-dump fails to realize is that there is a system of checks and balances. Even if there were it has nothing to do with tr-dump because he thinks he is untouchable cause he is rich, or untouchable because he is so so smart, or untouchable because he has the power greater than a king. He simply waves his hand - and all actions taken against him disappear with his adversaries tossed into the dungeon.

Well Mr. Trump there is a system of checks and balances and they are here to specifically protect us against tyrants like you.

I was once afraid this system of checks and balances was not strong enough or ridged enough to stand against the relentless on slot of deception by someone like a monster such as tr-dump.

But as Mueller chips away and builds his case I would like to think this system of checks and balances if allowed to run it's course will serve us very well.

Criminality is not to be taken lightly. It takes investigators, prosecutors, juries, and judges and then review by higher courts and their judges if need be. But as this case will show Presidents in general and team tr-dump is not immune to being brought into a court of justice. No matter how powerful and omnipotent he thinks he may be.

I have had my eye on this clown tr-dump and anxiously watching and hoping he could be somewhat contained - because he has the inclination to be spastic, fire the gun then aim, respond out of raw emotion rather than fore thought and reasoned thinking.

I apologize because I might be a little anxious to see him taken down. But under no circumstances do I advocate any shortcuts be taken. - but only done by the book.

Under no circumstances does he deserve to walk away a martyr wrapped in the shroud of sympathy because he got a raw deal.

There was a raw deal in play here - the raw deal of endless prevaricating lies - the raw deal of deceptive conduct and actions - the raw deal of taking an oath and then tossing that oath out the window - and the raw deal of taking the Constitution and using if as toilet paper.

We dish not dish up those raw deals to him. He dished those raw deals up to us hourly, daily, constantly, and habitually.

Tr-dump should be made to answer for that and it should be done by the book - no shortcuts.

 

Sam McGee

(347 posts)
49. True, that.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:13 PM
Feb 2018

I'm not certain but I doubt if "collusion" is a legal term. "Conspiracy," on the other hand, is clearly defined and depending on the conspiracy, the penalties are tough.

Before anyone can be charged with a conspiracy, the guvmint must first prove that a conspiracy exists. That is what Trump's indictment of 13 Russians and "person known and not known" does -- it establishes the existence of a conspiracy. Now all that's needed is to tie people to the conspiracy . . . which is the reason for the "persons know and not known" part.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
23. Then do the right thing. Contact DOJ and ferret out these traitors!
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:08 PM
Feb 2018

Who brought these people up anyway? Don't they know right from wrong?

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
24. In the words of Seinfeld
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:10 PM
Feb 2018

"I'm telling you, the jig is up."
"It was a bad jig to begin with. We never should've started this jig."
"It was a bad jig. A terrible terrible jig."

debsy

(530 posts)
26. I call BS on this:
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:12 PM
Feb 2018

"Trump is desperate, but ... he's convinced himself there was no collusion."

Trump knew exactly what was going on and was/is an active participant. It isn't just collusion, it was - and IS - a CONSPIRACY with the Russians! IMO, these people are all traitors. Now they are trying to give him cover. They knew what they were getting into and they cared more about permanent control and enriching themselves and their "friends" than anything. They don't give one iota about our country and/or us.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
56. I think the significant part is that Trump has convinced himself...
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:46 PM
Feb 2018

The man self-justifies to an astonishing degree.

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
83. The man actually sees the fine clothes,
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 01:34 PM
Feb 2018

That everyone else is pretending to see rather than admit their non-worthy status.

He has no idea that he is naked.

The con-artist's ultimate mark has been himself.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
29. i Hope the jig really is up.....well we don't have to worry about Dotar doing
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:26 PM
Feb 2018

anything with the box that is near him...he wouldn't want to upset Putin........

Oh I can't wait ....

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
34. Beware of false prophets,
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:42 PM
Feb 2018

15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

Matthew 7:15-20

lark

(23,091 posts)
35. I disagree.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:47 PM
Feb 2018

He knows full well he's a traitor, that's why he has to yell the opposite so loud and to everyone who wasn't central to the treachery. He's just a total and 100% liar, just like he lies to Melania about his paid fucks.

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
40. I don't feel bad for them one bit.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:53 PM
Feb 2018

They joined the campaign to further themselves, even though they knew he was disgusting and corrupt.
That old saying "lay down with dogs, get fleas" comes to mind.

 

Sam McGee

(347 posts)
46. Remind them . . .
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:10 PM
Feb 2018

Those DC lawyers bill $850 an hour and up. I know. My daughter is a white collar criminal defense attorney with a big DC firm -- she needs a new Mercedes.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
48. They all knew what kind of person he is, to include being a traitor.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:13 PM
Feb 2018

They all wanted in to enrich themselves, period. They were willing to look past Trump's history of dragging anything and everything down figuring they could always get out. Oops, too late now.

Well, they can now all burn in the pit of fire. We can bring marshmallows.

dem4decades

(11,282 posts)
51. Maybe Trump can keep saying No Collusion, No Delusion
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:17 PM
Feb 2018

Over and over again. The more he says stuff the more he believes it.

mitch96

(13,892 posts)
54. I think there is a profusion.....
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:32 PM
Feb 2018

Of confusion about the collusion, delusion that there may be a need for a transfusion...
of sorts.. DRAIN THE SWAMP of the trumpelstillkins and their ilk...
m

many a good man

(5,997 posts)
59. Trump was the criminal genius who masterminded the great heist of all time
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:00 PM
Feb 2018

If Mueller charges him with this he'll proudly agree in another stunning unconscious public admission of guilt

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
63. Gosh, I feel badly for those who have "...fallen into this."
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:06 PM
Feb 2018

Oh, wait. No, I don't. Not at all. How could they not know what he was like, LONG before his hostile takeover of 1600? Or, what a snakepit that environment would be.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
64. If they regret jumping on the Trumpmobile, they can get off at the next stop. This art. seems off.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:12 PM
Feb 2018

How can they "know the jig is up," but Trump (and his inner circle) NOT "know the jig is up," and even believe they did nothing wrong? Is the person referring to staffers around the periphery?

If true. I'm loving it. Some working in the WH think Trump is delusional. CONFIRMATION!!!! I and others started saying in 2016 that there's something wrong with him, his mind.

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
85. There are many false starts when moving towards any major change.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 01:52 PM
Feb 2018

Quitting smoking comes to mind as an analogy. So does leaving an abusive relationship, or getting out of any relationship at all.

Some people can rip off the bandage fast. Other people let it soak off in the shower.

Impeaching a sitting POTUS is a momentous deal. Mind you, electing a president should be undertaken with a bit more thought and gravity than many voters put into the effort.

The concept of marriage and divorce make for another analogy. People love weddings, and they have all sorts of unrealistic ideas about marriage.

When it comes time for the divorce, the laws are more complicated, people's emotions are more confused and the process is more lengthy and expensive.

Russia played matchmaker for Trump, and all sorts of funding paid for the dates and gifts and other aspects of the courtship.

The taxpayers covered the costs of the wedding that not many peopled attended. Now, we're paying for the divorce lawyers on our side. From what I understand, Trump has been using campaign funds to pay for his lawyers.

Someone else will have to explain to me how that fact fits into the divorce analogy, beacuse it's beyond my ken.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
71. His staff and workers are the worst of America. I don't feel sorry even for the most pathetic
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:55 PM
Feb 2018

crying little coffee boys and girls. If you had ruined yourselves in Trump's WH, it would have been in some Republican governors' administration. Now, you can go to work in the sanitation industry, under fake names.

Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
82. I hope the "jig is up" for all of them
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:55 PM
Feb 2018

Those who participated in this attack against our country or who thought they could personally gain by ignoring it probably will not end up as convicted felons. But they should have earned the scorn and derision of all Americans for their support of that quisling in the WH.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
87. If they really believe that, then why are we not seeing mass resignations?
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 03:56 PM
Feb 2018

It's my take that Trump is completely convinced he is totally innocent of any wrong doing. Never, ever forget that he is a delusional narcissist, which means in his own mind no one else is quite real, and anything and everything he does is perfectly fine.

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