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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:27 PM Feb 2018

Politico: Bernie blames Hillary for allowing Russian interference

The senator and his top political adviser also denied Mueller's assertion that Russian actors backed his campaign.

Bernie Sanders on Wednesday blamed Hillary Clinton for not doing more to stop the Russian attack on the last presidential election. Then his 2016 campaign manager, in an interview with POLITICO, said he’s seen no evidence to support special counsel Robert Mueller's assertion in an indictment last week that the Russian operation had backed Sanders' campaign.

The remarks showed Sanders, running for a third term and currently considered a front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020, deeply defensive in response to questions posed to him about what was laid out in the indictment. He attempted to thread a response that blasts Donald Trump for refusing to acknowledge that Russians helped his campaign — but then holds himself harmless for a nearly identical denial.

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The Sanders statement issued late Wednesday attributed to “an aide to Sen. Sanders” added “he was using the word ‘campaign’ expansively to include not only the formal, institutional campaign, but also the broader network of volunteers and supporters of Bernie 2016 across the country.”

Sanders went on to indicate that he was at least vaguely aware of the operation that Mueller detailed in his indictment of 13 Russian nationals last week: “What Mueller reported, he had more specificity than we’d seen before. Not exactly new.”

A former Clinton campaign staffer said it was nonsense that Sanders' campaign had reached out to Clinton's about potential Russian interference. "No one from the Sanders campaign ever contacted us about this”—not in September, and not in “April and May.” Sanders said in the radio interview that he noticed "lots of strange things" during those months in 2016.


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/21/bernie-sanders-trump-russia-interference-420528
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Politico: Bernie blames Hillary for allowing Russian interference (Original Post) ehrnst Feb 2018 OP
He also.. Politico - Bernie mimics Trump defense on Russian interference Cha Feb 2018 #1
That is interesting. Wonder if a specific name and date spooky3 Feb 2018 #9
Dunno, Spooky.. but I believe Hillary's Cha Feb 2018 #15
Sanders said in the radio interview that he noticed "lots of strange things"....... He forgot the ER Exotica Feb 2018 #22
"ER"? Cha Feb 2018 #29
Politico trying to stir something up unc70 Feb 2018 #2
Politico is RW? I wasn't aware of that. Oh right ehrnst Feb 2018 #6
What in this column is incorrect, in your opinion? yardwork Feb 2018 #10
These are not "right wing attacks." Adrahil Feb 2018 #23
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #24
Another hit piece against Bernie. Weed Man Feb 2018 #3
OK. Tell us what is not true in the article. ehrnst Feb 2018 #5
It's BS' and his manager's own words. Cha Feb 2018 #7
How are his own words a hit piece? nini Feb 2018 #19
See this. Weed Man Feb 2018 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #4
Maybe next time around... Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #8
I have a question. yardwork Feb 2018 #11
Because - just like the Trump campaign - they were benefiting from it. TheSmarterDog Feb 2018 #12
It looks that way. yardwork Feb 2018 #16
Tad told them not to. nt DURHAM D Feb 2018 #13
Even in September 2016? Hillary was the nominee by then. yardwork Feb 2018 #17
He is just following Trump's lead. DURHAM D Feb 2018 #20
That is NOT what he said -- he does not say that he knew Russia was interfering, he knew that there karynnj Feb 2018 #27
Sanders is quoted as saying that they aren't surprised by Mueller's "report." yardwork Feb 2018 #28
In August, US intelligence told the presidential candidates about Russian interference. progressoid Feb 2018 #36
I don't recall that. yardwork Feb 2018 #37
This was long before Dotard's comment about the 400 pound hacker. progressoid Feb 2018 #40
But that wasn't about bots and social media. yardwork Feb 2018 #42
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #14
Horseshit hueymahl Feb 2018 #18
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #21
Believe what you want hueymahl Feb 2018 #25
Some of them will never admit their hero is wrong.... Adrahil Feb 2018 #26
It's a tough time for them nini Feb 2018 #33
I know hueymahl Feb 2018 #35
Case in point... Adrahil Feb 2018 #39
LOL nini Feb 2018 #41
Huh... Mike Nelson Feb 2018 #30
Hillary hate was such a pervasive and encompassing phenomenon GusBob Feb 2018 #31
2020 Front Runner? Nederland Feb 2018 #34
Now we know the extent of the Russian operation... IluvPitties Feb 2018 #38

Cha

(297,123 posts)
1. He also.. Politico - Bernie mimics Trump defense on Russian interference
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:36 PM
Feb 2018
Bernie Sanders on Wednesday blamed Hillary Clinton for not doing more to stop the Russian attack on the last presidential election. Then his 2016 campaign manager, in an interview with POLITICO, said he’s seen no evidence to support Special Counsel Bob Mueller's assertion in an indictment last week that the Russian operation had backed Sanders'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210269740

BS wants to take the subject off him and right on to Hillary. How's he doing?



https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10263076

OH WOW.. What the Hell is this?...

"A former Clinton campaign staffer said it was nonsense that Sanders' campaign had reached out to Clinton's about potential Russian interference. "No one from the Sanders campaign ever contacted us about this”—not in September, and not in “April and May.” Sanders said in the radio interview that he noticed "lots of strange things" during those months in 2016".







spooky3

(34,430 posts)
9. That is interesting. Wonder if a specific name and date
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:48 PM
Feb 2018

Re the “strange things” report will ever emerge.

 

Exotica

(1,461 posts)
22. Sanders said in the radio interview that he noticed "lots of strange things"....... He forgot the ER
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:10 PM
Feb 2018

unc70

(6,110 posts)
2. Politico trying to stir something up
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:36 PM
Feb 2018

Remember Politico is not our friend. This is one of their obvious hit pieces trying to stir up divisions between Dems. A couple of DUers have already taken the bait and attacked Bernie. While I know that is certainly tempting for those that have never liked Bernie, using RW attacks against Sanders is against DU rules.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
23. These are not "right wing attacks."
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:10 PM
Feb 2018

Politico is not always our friend, but it's not exactly Breitbart either.


Bernie and some of his supporters (not all... not even most) did plenty to stir up division on their own. Bernie's defensiveness on this issue is not helping his case, IMO.

Response to unc70 (Reply #2)

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
5. OK. Tell us what is not true in the article.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:42 PM
Feb 2018

It will be good to hear alternate sources.

Was this as bad as the clearly fictional "hit piece" they did on Tom Price gouging taxpayers by taking private planes?


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/04/how-we-found-tom-prices-private-jets-215680

Response to ehrnst (Original post)

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
11. I have a question.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:51 PM
Feb 2018

Why didn't Sanders' campaign tell everybody that they had evidence that a foreign nation was interfering in our election?

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
17. Even in September 2016? Hillary was the nominee by then.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:03 PM
Feb 2018

This looks really bad for Bernie Sanders. He admitted today that his campaign already knew - back in 2016 - what Mueller has discovered.

Sanders had an obligation to tell us. Why didn't he?

And where are his tax returns?

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
20. He is just following Trump's lead.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:08 PM
Feb 2018

No tax returns.
Family creates fake universities.
Election is rigged.
Hillary should have done something about Russian interference.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
27. That is NOT what he said -- he does not say that he knew Russia was interfering, he knew that there
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:15 PM
Feb 2018

were posters putting up ugly things. It is very likely that they assumed that these were people who were on the right -- just as the Republicans used supporters of Nader and others in the past.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
28. Sanders is quoted as saying that they aren't surprised by Mueller's "report."
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:17 PM
Feb 2018

There are quotes of Sanders saying this all over tonight. He says that they knew this back in 2016.

progressoid

(49,969 posts)
36. In August, US intelligence told the presidential candidates about Russian interference.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:02 PM
Feb 2018

She already knew.

progressoid

(49,969 posts)
40. This was long before Dotard's comment about the 400 pound hacker.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:19 PM
Feb 2018
A senior U.S. intelligence official assured NBC News that cybersecurity and the Russian government’s attempts to interfere in the 2016 election have been briefed to, and discussed extensively with, both parties’ candidates, surrogates and leadership, since mid-August. "To profess not to know at this point is willful misrepresentation,” said the official. “The intelligence community has walked a very thin line in not taking sides, but both candidates have all the information they need to be crystal clear."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-was-told-russia-was-blame-hacks-long-debate-n663686

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
42. But that wasn't about bots and social media.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:01 AM
Feb 2018

We all understood that intelligence to involve attempts to hack into campaign servers, etc.

The information about bots and fake accounts on FB and twitter came much later. Yet Bernie said today that Mueller's "report" - and what report, anyway? - was not a surprise to his campaign.

Response to ehrnst (Original post)

hueymahl

(2,487 posts)
18. Horseshit
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:06 PM
Feb 2018

Blaming Bernie for the loss is lazy thinking and intellectually dishonest. But you can not stand Bernie, so it fits with your world view to blame him.

Response to hueymahl (Reply #18)

hueymahl

(2,487 posts)
25. Believe what you want
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:12 PM
Feb 2018

All I see are a bunch of Bernie haters seizing on any flimsy excuse to bash him. The primary is over. Everyone lost.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
39. Case in point...
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:18 PM
Feb 2018

DEFLECT, DEFLECT.

HILLARY'S FAULT!!!

Russia is a made up excuse for Hillary's terrible campaign.


Sounds familiar.

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
30. Huh...
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:21 PM
Feb 2018

"...considered a front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination..."? He's not a Democrat anymore. He left the party, after joining and losing in 2016. He won't be back in - and would probably run as a third party candidate.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
31. Hillary hate was such a pervasive and encompassing phenomenon
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:21 PM
Feb 2018

I have been wondering for sometime now just why Putin hated her so much? (I like to think he was afraid of her)

What was the source and when did it start? I assume it goes back to her SoS days. She must have had some goods on him and his cronies that would have stymied whatever plans they had.

Which begs the follow-up question: was she aware of his bitter animosity towards her going back to way before the election?

I mean, did it ever maybe cross her mind that Putin and the KGB would do whatever it takes to stop her?

I still say if she had been elected in 2008 none of this ever would have happened, if she was on to Putin even as SoS she could have stopped him as POTUS

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