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We have had an assault weapons ban and it worked... (Original Post) pbmus Feb 2018 OP
I was just looking over the chart from mother jones on mass shootings OhioBlue Feb 2018 #1
It's not rocket science. TomSlick Feb 2018 #2
Here is the kicker though Motownman78 Feb 2018 #3
However, you'll see the same pattern with handguns which weren't covered by the AWB Kaleva Feb 2018 #4
Excellent graph! kentuck Feb 2018 #5
AR-15s were legal during the AWB hack89 Feb 2018 #6
The overall homicide rate halved between about 1991 and about 2005 krispos42 Feb 2018 #7
Better proof that gun bans work Nevernose Feb 2018 #8
 

Motownman78

(491 posts)
3. Here is the kicker though
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:52 PM
Feb 2018

There was never no real "ban". The only ban was the manufacture and import of NEW Assault rifles and high capacity magazines. I was able to buy a 17 round magazine for my Glock in 2001 even though the supposed ban had a 10 round limit on magazines. The reason was that the magazine was grandfathered legal for sale.

So, if there was no real ban, then why the decrease in shooting deaths during that time period?

Kaleva

(36,291 posts)
4. However, you'll see the same pattern with handguns which weren't covered by the AWB
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:56 PM
Feb 2018

Homicides commited with handguns peaked in the very early 90s, dramatically dropped during the remainder of that decade and into the early 2000s and started to rise again.

Compare charts showing gun massacres to homicides commited with a handgun and they follow a similar pattern.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
6. AR-15s were legal during the AWB
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:00 AM
Feb 2018

Once they were cosmetically modified to meet the new legal requirements. The rifle used at Sandy Hook would have been legal during the AWB.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
7. The overall homicide rate halved between about 1991 and about 2005
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:12 AM
Feb 2018

For reasons that had absolutely nothing to do with gun-control laws and everything to do with being able to have and advance environmentalism and women's rights. Now that culture-war gun-control attempts have given us a Repube president, a Repube House, a Repube Senate, and 2/3rds of state governorships and legislatures that are Repube, we can't advance our agenda. And things are starting to suck again.

Birth control gave women control over their reproduction in the late 60's. Environmental regulation took brain-damaging poisons (particularly airborne lead from gasoline) out of the air in the early 70's. Kids born after these events were more likely to be wanted, in families that could take care of them adequately, and less likely to have lead poisoning, which in short makes you violent, dumb, and shortsighted. These kids began to reach maturity in the late 80's... and that's when the crime rate began to drop. Fewer criminals entered the profession!






Even as the homicide rate halved, though, something else was happening. The vast bulk of homicides are single-victim incidents, but multiple-victim occurrences began to increase somewhat. Mass killings, being somewhat rare (statistically speaking) show a lot of year-to-year variation, at least in the time period studied.






You're also ignoring the fact that when the AWB was in effect, people were buying "almost assault weapons", or the same model of gun with "assault weapon" features removed. And the assault weapons bought before the ban were still in circulation; the bans were on sales of NEW guns only.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
8. Better proof that gun bans work
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:14 AM
Feb 2018

Try and buy a fully automatic weapon. Possible, but not easy.

Conversion is possible, but you either need a kit (which we could easily make a felony) or tools & skill. Either way, most people are lazy.

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