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lapucelle

(18,250 posts)
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:17 PM Feb 2018

"Bernie Blames Hillary for Allowing Russian Interference"

Last edited Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:54 PM - Edit history (2)

According to Politico, the senator and Jeff Weaver also denied Mueller's assertion that Russian actors backed his campaign.

"The remarks showed Sanders, running for a third term and currently considered a front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020, deeply defensive in response to questions posed to him about what was laid out in the indictment. He attempted to thread a response that blasts Donald Trump for refusing to acknowledge that Russians helped his campaign — but then holds himself harmless for a nearly identical denial."

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"Sanders said that his campaign had shared information with the Clinton campaign about suspected Russian anti-Clinton trolls on a campaign Facebook page. But Weaver later acknowledged that the Vermont senator had no firsthand knowledge that this had happened. Weaver said Sanders based his remark on an article published by NBC’s San Diego affiliate over the weekend about a campaign volunteer who claimed to have conducted his own investigation and brought the findings to the Clinton campaign in September — an assertion flatly denied by a former Clinton campaign aide."

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"Sanders repeatedly refused to say why he didn’t call out Russian involvement during the campaign. Clinton's campaign regularly raised suspicions of Kremlin-backed activity during the home stretch of the race."

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"Sanders has faced questions since Friday about why he has not more strongly condemned the Russian actions that benefited his campaign. On Wednesday, liberal writer Joan Walsh of The Nation tweeted in response to Sanders’ comments about Clinton: 'Seriously, this could be the end of Sanders 2020. Someone who cares about him ought to tell him how badly he stepped in it today.'"

What's next? The media and Republicans demanding that HRC apologize for what the Russian's did in 2016?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/21/bernie-sanders-trump-russia-interference-420528


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"Bernie Blames Hillary for Allowing Russian Interference" (Original Post) lapucelle Feb 2018 OP
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #1
That's a good sign Fullduplexxx Feb 2018 #6
We think alike. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #7
Also... NurseJackie Feb 2018 #9
Sanders and crew do seem to be pushing a right wing narrative. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #11
When I see things like that, it CONFIRMS much of what I've always suspected and... NurseJackie Feb 2018 #14
And then there was Weaver's remark that it could have been "two dudes in a hole." pnwmom Feb 2018 #2
Bernie Could NOT Be More Wrong. Hillary Could Not Stop The Russians. Putin Succeeds. TheMastersNemesis Feb 2018 #3
Bernie will stop them in 2020. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2018 #29
Maybe we should start with the sanctions lapucelle Feb 2018 #34
Yes, that would be a good start. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2018 #35
Thats how its viewed by just about everyone but Bernie BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #40
Sounds Like The Comrade In The WH Me. Feb 2018 #4
I'm always suspicious of (and examine closely) the motives of those who blame Hillary... NurseJackie Feb 2018 #12
Quite Me. Feb 2018 #15
Thanks for sharing this! I'm still trying to digest it all... NurseJackie Feb 2018 #5
The media and Republicansand apparently bernie as well Fullduplexxx Feb 2018 #8
There is little Weaver could say that would shock me. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #10
The least surprising things are still the most infuriating... NurseJackie Feb 2018 #13
Sounds more like McCarthyism to me!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2018 #30
I think many Democrats will not be surprised Progressive dog Feb 2018 #16
WOW Gothmog Feb 2018 #17
Always attacking Democrats 4now Feb 2018 #18
deeply defensive in response to questions posed to him about what was laid out in the indictment. Cha Feb 2018 #19
Or maybe nobody should say anything to Bernie at all BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #41
Joan Walsh for the win! R B Garr Feb 2018 #20
I know why Nina Turner was picked to head up Our Revolution ProudLib72 Feb 2018 #21
Lol. The usual suspects. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #22
Ari Melber had an excellent segment on this yesterday. R B Garr Feb 2018 #23
You mean Democrats? betsuni Feb 2018 #24
Thats a great burn BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #43
I think Sen. Sanders should consider the good of the country and not run. Stay in the Senate. He can Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #25
. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #31
I get it ...you love Bernie...I don't. Seriously I don't love any politician ...some I like and Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #46
Must disagree with you DR86... if Bernie can do so much good in the Senate, think what he can do InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2018 #36
I don't think he can get elected in a primary or a general...I just don't. What I do worry about Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #45
Guess there's one way to find out if Bernie CAN get elected. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2018 #47
My concern is Bernie will run in the primary. Blue_true Feb 2018 #37
I am concerned about that too...but he really shouldn't be allowed to run in the Democratic Party... Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #44
... LexVegas Feb 2018 #38
JUST like his BRO'S Blame Hillary . stonecutter357 Feb 2018 #26
Over Bernie since the 10th time I heard him on Tom Hartmann several years ago. LuvLoogie Feb 2018 #27
This really takes the shine off of Bernie redstateblues Feb 2018 #28
Bernie's "shine" disappeared for a lot of us, some time ago. (nt) Paladin Feb 2018 #33
See ya Bernie. MrsCoffee Feb 2018 #32
I dream of the day when I dont have to hear about Bernie BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #39
Amen and Hallelujah! Cha Feb 2018 #42

Response to lapucelle (Original post)

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
11. Sanders and crew do seem to be pushing a right wing narrative.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:33 PM
Feb 2018

That isn't the fault of the op and I appreciate it being highlighted.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. When I see things like that, it CONFIRMS much of what I've always suspected and...
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:41 PM
Feb 2018

... much of what I've only been able to hint-at online (else I risk certain consequences). It's good to see that this is something that can finally be discussed in the open (even though the OP still needs to avoid the sniping and cheap-shots from the sidelines.)

I'm grateful that the OP took a chance to post it... this needs to be openly discussed. This is a reality that cannot be hidden any longer. People need to know the truth.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
2. And then there was Weaver's remark that it could have been "two dudes in a hole."
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:23 PM
Feb 2018

Well, at least it wasn't a 400 pound man on a bed in NJ.

BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
40. Thats how its viewed by just about everyone but Bernie
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 05:37 PM
Feb 2018

Even conservatives are on board with sanctioning Russia. But not Bernie.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. I'm always suspicious of (and examine closely) the motives of those who blame Hillary...
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:34 PM
Feb 2018

... I think that speaks for itself. Other than to point out that Hillary is a Democrat, there's no need for me to go into too much additional detail or to offer further explanations (for obvious reasons).

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
5. Thanks for sharing this! I'm still trying to digest it all...
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:26 PM
Feb 2018

... but it certainly confirms much of what I'd previously believed about certain individuals.

Fullduplexxx

(7,857 posts)
8. The media and Republicansand apparently bernie as well
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:30 PM
Feb 2018

That being said this soinds like more of stir the pot than trying to help

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. There is little Weaver could say that would shock me.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:30 PM
Feb 2018

The guy is simply a slimy piece of shit. I am a bit surprised that Sanders has gone the Trump propaganda route. I say that with the understanding that Sanders would say almost anything for a dollar and self-promotion.

Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
16. I think many Democrats will not be surprised
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 01:25 PM
Feb 2018

by that blaming the victim defense from a candidate whose name I will not mention. Trump and his apologists are on the same page.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
19. deeply defensive in response to questions posed to him about what was laid out in the indictment.
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 01:44 AM
Feb 2018

He attempted to thread a response that blasts Donald Trump for refusing to acknowledge that Russians helped his campaign — but then holds himself harmless for a nearly identical denial."

Wow.. Mahalo, lapucelle

"Sanders has faced questions since Friday about why he has not more strongly condemned the Russian actions that benefited his campaign. On Wednesday,
liberal writer Joan Walsh of The Nation tweeted in response to Sanders’ comments about Clinton: 'Seriously, this could be the end of Sanders 2020. Someone who cares about him ought to tell him how badly he stepped in it today.'"

BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
41. Or maybe nobody should say anything to Bernie at all
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 05:43 PM
Feb 2018

I like the idea of Bernie “stepping in it” to be honest.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
21. I know why Nina Turner was picked to head up Our Revolution
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 02:04 AM
Feb 2018

At first I thought it was a big mistake, maybe she conned her way in. But now I know why....

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
23. Ari Melber had an excellent segment on this yesterday.
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 02:20 AM
Feb 2018

It’s not going away. They had to backtrack from their initial Mueller smears. Wow...

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
25. I think Sen. Sanders should consider the good of the country and not run. Stay in the Senate. He can
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 11:12 AM
Feb 2018

do much good there. We have a GOP governor in Vermont, thus Sen. Sanders would be replaced by a Republican. Also,his candidacy could be deeply divisive and lead yet again to another election debacle. We simply can't afford that in 20. I won't vote for him in a primary...general of course. But I sincerely doubt he makes it that far even with Republicans support and/or Russian troll support...whether he likes it or not (and I doubt he likes it) ...that sort will support him to cause chaos.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
46. I get it ...you love Bernie...I don't. Seriously I don't love any politician ...some I like and
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 11:05 PM
Feb 2018

respect some I don't.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
36. Must disagree with you DR86... if Bernie can do so much good in the Senate, think what he can do
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 05:20 PM
Feb 2018

as President. There's a reason he's a front-runner for 2020.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
45. I don't think he can get elected in a primary or a general...I just don't. What I do worry about
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 11:03 PM
Feb 2018

is he could drive voters away if he attacked other candidates or the Party...I think he belongs in the Senate...I know some think it is Ok having an 80 year old as president ...I don't. We need younger folks and fresh faces...add the Mueller indictment and some unwise statements...let someone else have a chance.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
37. My concern is Bernie will run in the primary.
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 05:30 PM
Feb 2018

And once he sees that he is losing, will use the same slash and burn tactics that he used against Hillary. I really don't want to see the front runner strike back, but there may be no choice. I am concerned about division and bad feelings at the end of our primary, again dividing people that should be working together. For the good of the country, Bernie won't run for President, but I have seen things that lead me to conclude that Bernie is not thinking along such lines.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
44. I am concerned about that too...but he really shouldn't be allowed to run in the Democratic Party...
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 11:00 PM
Feb 2018

he did not remain a Democrat.

LuvLoogie

(6,992 posts)
27. Over Bernie since the 10th time I heard him on Tom Hartmann several years ago.
Sat Feb 24, 2018, 11:28 AM
Feb 2018

I started out thinking he "Wants what's best for America," but then it seemed to me that it was more "What's best for America is what I want."

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