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Thu Feb 22, 2018, 01:53 PM

Does the Second Amendment really protect assault weapons? Four courts have said no.

Source: Washington Post, by Meagan Flynn and Fred Barbash

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“Nine terrified children ran from one of the classrooms when the gunman paused to reload, while two youngsters successfully hid in a restroom,” Judge Robert B. King of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit wrote in the majority opinion. “Another child was the other classroom’s sole survivor. In all, the gunman fired at least 155 rounds of ammunition within five minutes, shooting each of his victims multiple times.”

The court ruled that the ban on assault weapons like the one Adam Lanza used at Sandy Hook — like the one that police say Nikolas Cruz confessed to using at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on Feb. 14 and that Omar Mateen used at Orlando’s Pulse Nightclub in June 2016 and Stephen Paddock used from the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas on Oct. 1 — was constitutional.

It was not the first time a federal appeals court had ruled that a ban on assault weapons was permissible under the Second Amendment. It was the fourth time in the past decade. In fact, no federal appeals court has ever held that assault weapons are protected.

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The Supreme Court has declined to review any of these cases. A reason may be that at the moment there is no split among the appeals courts across the country, a factor that heavily influences the high court’s choice of cases. The appeals courts have all agreed that assault weapons bans are okay.

Read it all at: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/02/22/does-the-second-amendment-really-protect-assault-weapons-four-courts-have-said-no/

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Reply Does the Second Amendment really protect assault weapons? Four courts have said no. (Original post)
yallerdawg Feb 2018 OP
samir.g Feb 2018 #1
hack89 Feb 2018 #2
boston bean Feb 2018 #4
hack89 Feb 2018 #5
yallerdawg Feb 2018 #7
Gothmog Feb 2018 #3
Adrahil Feb 2018 #6
uponit7771 Feb 2018 #8
Shanti Mama Feb 2018 #9
yallerdawg Feb 2018 #10

Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 01:55 PM

1. It protects muskets

Repeal it anyway.

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 02:03 PM

2. AWBs are perfectly constitutional

They just don't have deep and wide popular support.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 02:04 PM

4. BS

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Response to boston bean (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 02:10 PM

5. Care to show me that wide and deep support?

National support for AWBs has oscillated within a narrow band between 50 - 60 % for decades. That is not enough - that support is not evenly distributed and there are many pro- gun states where a majority oppose AWBs.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 02:24 PM

7. When has "wide and deep support" ever meant anything?

Bush attacks Iraq?

Obama Affordable Care Act?

Republican tax cuts for the wealthy?

These politicians are just looking at 50% plus 1 to keep their jobs.

They have their finger in the air gauging which way the wind is blowing!

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 02:03 PM

3. Under the Heller opinion, almost all forms of gun regulation are legal

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 02:14 PM

6. Even Scalia agreed that weapons like the AR-15 can be regulated.

 

I bring that up whenever a gun nut talks about "mah rights."

I own two AR-15's.... I would turn them in tomorrow if we passed the law. Enough is enough.

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 02:36 PM

8. +1, the USSC has already said we don't have the right to every kind of arm everywhere

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Response to yallerdawg (Original post)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 02:50 PM

9. "regulated" is a key part of the 2nd Amendment. The NRA just wants all to forget this.

Until gun-control opponents are fully educated about their actual rights under the 2nd, they'll continue to cry foul and the NRA will be able to get away with murder, literally.

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Response to Shanti Mama (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 22, 2018, 02:53 PM

10. What other amendment...

has the first half of it ignored - as if it didn't exist?

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