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FM123

(10,050 posts)
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:18 PM Feb 2018

Senator Brian Schatz from Hawaii tweeted:

"I am normally interested in compromise. Not this time. I cannot imagine a bill that would make a difference that the NRA supports. We don't need to cut a deal with them, we need to beat them!"

I agree with him. The NRA has drawn a line and there is no compromise anywhere, so evident at CPAC

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Senator Brian Schatz from Hawaii tweeted: (Original Post) FM123 Feb 2018 OP
K & R! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2018 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #10
No, never, NO teacher should have a gun on school premises, NEVER! Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #11
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #13
And this handgun, locked away, will do what? dbackjon Feb 2018 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2018 #18
I like my Brian Schatz! Cha Feb 2018 #2
I like your Brian Schatz too! FM123 Feb 2018 #4
Oh god yes! Sen Schatz is Cha Feb 2018 #6
would you consider a 2 for 1 swap? Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #15
It's not Fair.. you could always Cha Feb 2018 #17
Fun fact from Germany: OldEurope Feb 2018 #28
Oh, that's right.. Schatzie! Cha Feb 2018 #32
Well said... Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #3
the nra wouldn't be interested in compromise anyway. but it's important to *propose* compromise unblock Feb 2018 #5
Gandhi would have agreed - RandomAccess Feb 2018 #7
Excellent, I like his views. Take No Prisoners with this group! appalachiablue Feb 2018 #8
Zero votes to NRA funded politicians SHRED Feb 2018 #9
Since when is everyone so open about the necessity to compromise for efhmc Feb 2018 #14
Hey Sen Brian Schatz' tweet got a lot Cha Feb 2018 #19
I noticed this morning that the NRA only has 5 Million members True Blue American Feb 2018 #20
what is the rubles to dollars exchange rate? HopeAgain Feb 2018 #21
The NRA's main power comes not from members or Hortensis Feb 2018 #22
Thanks! True Blue American Feb 2018 #23
It's widely believed Russia has donated to the NRA. Hortensis Feb 2018 #24
I sincerely pray True Blue American Feb 2018 #25
:) Our nation needs a Scopes trial effect and a breather Hortensis Feb 2018 #26
Truth! Nitram Feb 2018 #27
NRA wants Killpromise, stick a fork, NRA is done OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #29
The conservative era has come and gone. Them and the NRA need to be put out to pasture ffr Feb 2018 #30
exactly! don't try to convince the other side. just beat the other side. blake2012 Feb 2018 #31

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dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
16. And this handgun, locked away, will do what?
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 09:43 PM
Feb 2018

Is a teacher with a handgun going to charge a shooter with a gun shooting hundreds of rounds?

Response to dbackjon (Reply #16)

Cha

(295,899 posts)
6. Oh god yes! Sen Schatz is
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:40 PM
Feb 2018

former Gov Neil Abercrombie's legacy to us.

He appointed him to fill in Sen Daniel Inouye's seat when he passed on.. and then won the special election and was reelected in 2016.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Schatz

He's a sweetie.. afaik he didn't pile on Sen Franklin, either. I know you're probably not suppose to talk about our senators that way.. but here I am.

Mahalo to you for his Tweet, FM!

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,020 posts)
15. would you consider a 2 for 1 swap?
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 09:36 PM
Feb 2018

I don't know a thing about him except that wikipedia entry, but I'd be willing to swap both my senators for him.

Actually, if you could spare some small mammal or cuddly insect, I'd trade both McConnell and Paul.

It ain't fair.

Cha

(295,899 posts)
17. It's not Fair.. you could always
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 09:45 PM
Feb 2018

move to Hawaii, Hermit!

I know.. you love Kentucky.. just not your idiotic Senators.

The Kentucky state house turned Blue, though.. hope it's a good start for ya'll!

OldEurope

(1,273 posts)
28. Fun fact from Germany:
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 12:14 PM
Feb 2018

Schatz is German for treasure and is also used far and wide as term of endearment. My son calls his fianceé "Schatz".

Cha

(295,899 posts)
32. Oh, that's right.. Schatzie!
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 06:45 PM
Feb 2018

I remember that now from my past.. somewhere. lol

Mahalo, OldEurope

Wounded Bear

(58,436 posts)
3. Well said...
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:22 PM
Feb 2018

The NRA has repeatedly, over the last two decades refused to compromise on anything gun-related and has demanded that all of their opinions be voted into law.

Fuck 'em.

unblock

(51,973 posts)
5. the nra wouldn't be interested in compromise anyway. but it's important to *propose* compromise
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:32 PM
Feb 2018

let them be the ones who reject it.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
7. Gandhi would have agreed -
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 06:49 PM
Feb 2018

All compromise is based on give and take, but there can be no give and take on fundamentals. All compromise on fundamentals is a surrender, for it is all give and no take.” Mahatma Gandhi

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
9. Zero votes to NRA funded politicians
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 07:28 PM
Feb 2018

That will remove the NRA's power in politics.
Their money is toxic.

efhmc

(14,709 posts)
14. Since when is everyone so open about the necessity to compromise for
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 09:19 PM
Feb 2018

the sake of the NRA. So the representatives of the people are not even brought into the conversation anymore.

True Blue American

(17,972 posts)
20. I noticed this morning that the NRA only has 5 Million members
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 06:42 AM
Feb 2018

I know the gun companies support them, but at $40 a year dues where is the flood of money coming from? The companies that give members huge discounts?

They spent 21 Million On Trump and $19 Million against Hillary!

Where is all that money coming from?

Is that one of the things that make you go,”Hmmm?”

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. The NRA's main power comes not from members or
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 07:44 AM
Feb 2018

from donations to politicians (new donors have tried displacing NRA money to little effect), but rather from the many millions of people passionately opposed to gun control. The NRA can direct that passion to elect a politician or to destroy him.

And of course the NRA (and very wealthy powers allied with the NRA--$$$$$) is always working to keep that source of its great power well fueled and burning.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. It's widely believed Russia has donated to the NRA.
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 09:23 AM
Feb 2018

Their relationship goes back at least as far as 2011, and Russian pro-gun bots are currently flooding Twitter.

From Vox:

The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin [Alexander Torshin] illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency, two sources familiar with the matter have told McClatchy.
The NRA admits to spending a huge $30M to help elect Trump, but it may be more like $70M. Where'd that money come from?

And an article just last week from CNBC is titled "NRA, Russia and Trump: How 'dark money' is poisoning American democracy."

We're living through fascinating times. Who could have imagined in 1980 that the NRA and millions of rabidly anti-Russia Bircher-type supporters would come to see Russia as their wise and benevolent friend and their own government as their huge enemy?

Happily, these are also becoming very bad times for the NRA. May take a while yet, but it looks like their self-destructive extremism is nearing its end. it's hard to see how they will survive as a political power.

True Blue American

(17,972 posts)
25. I sincerely pray
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 09:31 AM
Feb 2018

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You are right and can see this cancer on our country exposed.

I know that is hyperbole, but why not? The other side does the same.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. :) Our nation needs a Scopes trial effect and a breather
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 09:44 AM
Feb 2018

from all this off-the-leash extremism. I know I'm more than ready for one.

Those types, right and left, will always be with us, and we only prosper and progress when the far larger more moderate blocs are able to unite to keep extremism in check.

ffr

(22,644 posts)
30. The conservative era has come and gone. Them and the NRA need to be put out to pasture
Fri Feb 23, 2018, 02:55 PM
Feb 2018

The NRA may have served a purpose at one time, but their cause has been bastardized into supporting the most outlandish kooky ideas ever.

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