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Watching Rachel tonight, does anyone else sense a imminent collapse in the White House? (Original Post) Augiedog Feb 2018 OP
Yup. ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2018 #1
It's really old, but it has good bones. dchill Feb 2018 #2
It was pretty much gutted and rebuilt under Truman jberryhill Feb 2018 #24
Yes. That's why it has good bones. dchill Feb 2018 #25
They're going to have to tear it down again and rebuild it. Dave Starsky Mar 2018 #57
Yes--but I've felt this before... First Speaker Feb 2018 #3
2020 election will be needed to restore things, IMO mazzarro Mar 2018 #49
But, but, but, Dolt45 just announced he's running again in 2020. catbyte Mar 2018 #56
Think about Pence for a moment Cosmocat Mar 2018 #61
If you mean collapse in Red Dons presence then no, It will take act of congress and it should... uponit7771 Feb 2018 #4
No, been there, done that. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #5
True! nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #7
Interesting. H2O Man Feb 2018 #29
Yes, this is "the middle" part of the saga. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #31
No, this has been predicted for months. It is always a mess there, yet he is still here. nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #6
Yeah feels like the wheels are coming off. People are talking to mueller, dump is toast. onecaliberal Feb 2018 #8
All Hope is gone marylandblue Feb 2018 #9
I saw that don't think I didnt!! Volaris Feb 2018 #14
I too see what you did. LOL jrthin Feb 2018 #32
Charity left more than a year ago! democratisphere Mar 2018 #53
Two of his closest coming apart at the seams on the same day eleny Feb 2018 #10
Feels like the Titanic is starting to sink. sarcasmo Feb 2018 #11
not the Titanic...... lastlib Feb 2018 #30
LMAO -- BigBearJohn Feb 2018 #33
PERFECT. VOX Feb 2018 #36
LOL! lunatica Feb 2018 #37
DUzy! BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #59
Yes, biggly (sp) leanforward Feb 2018 #12
I'll believe it when I see it happen. Atman Feb 2018 #13
I hope so! Denis 11 Feb 2018 #15
I thought Beck was a never trumper? Iahotdog Feb 2018 #19
I heard him defending Jared Kushner. Denis 11 Mar 2018 #50
I love Jeff Beck! brucefan Mar 2018 #54
Jeff Beck's Guitar Shop Dave Starsky Mar 2018 #58
My GF Jeannie has this poster autographed by Beck. panader0 Mar 2018 #65
She sounds like a good woman. Dave Starsky Mar 2018 #66
This crazy train is about to derail njhoneybadger Feb 2018 #16
The stress will build on DT. He won't be able to handle it. LiberalFighter Feb 2018 #17
That dinner was definitely an Up-Yours Mr. Trump by Sessions. Stonepounder Feb 2018 #34
It's almost like flushing the toilet ......... Iahotdog Feb 2018 #18
+1 FailureToCommunicate Mar 2018 #43
The Hope Hicks departure has me thinking that things have become more toxic. lkinwi Feb 2018 #20
I think so. Sounds like she was a major emotional support for him. Take GreenPartyVoter Mar 2018 #51
People go to Washington Turbineguy Feb 2018 #21
Yes. Mueller getting closer to Trump every day. ooky Feb 2018 #22
It's like watching a souffle deflate Generic Brad Feb 2018 #23
Yes SweetieD Feb 2018 #26
People are leaving, can't wait to bail. I wonder if SHS will Ilsa Feb 2018 #27
Drumpf be like Leghorn21 Feb 2018 #28
After reading the news this morning, liberalmuse Feb 2018 #35
Rachel relies on specifics and specifics seldom mean anything Awsi Dooger Mar 2018 #38
We're being watched. Scenarios are in place around the world to act when we are most off-balance. NBachers Mar 2018 #39
pessimist hibbing Mar 2018 #40
Couldn't resist posting this from Rachel's program tonight ailsagirl Mar 2018 #41
Thanks! As that list gets longer each week, you gotta wonder about the real work a FailureToCommunicate Mar 2018 #44
ambassador to panama Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #48
The Trump White House . . . Sam McGee Mar 2018 #42
Yep... IthinkThereforeIAM Mar 2018 #45
Apparently Sessions can grantcart Mar 2018 #46
It's interesting Upthevibe Mar 2018 #47
What happened with Sessions? I keep pnwest Mar 2018 #55
He went out to dinner greymattermom Mar 2018 #60
She always makes it seem like that oberliner Mar 2018 #52
Yes, but... Mike Nelson Mar 2018 #62
yes lapfog_1 Mar 2018 #63
I do...I think his days are number...resignation with a pardon. Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #64
I've been predicting imminent collapse of the Trump myth and organization for years. Orsino Mar 2018 #67
Last night was a Barn Burner... BadGimp Mar 2018 #68
After Mueller is done talking with the White House employees... WyattKansas Mar 2018 #69

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,485 posts)
1. Yup.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 10:43 PM
Feb 2018


While Congress twiddles their thumbs waiting for Trump to take a more interested position in being President.

dchill

(38,324 posts)
2. It's really old, but it has good bones.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 10:44 PM
Feb 2018

Oh, you mean administration-wise. Yeah, it feels that way to me, too. If so, it's all happening much quicker than I was expecting.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
57. They're going to have to tear it down again and rebuild it.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:12 AM
Mar 2018

Thanks to the Fathead, you just know that building now has more Russian bugs than the mattresses at the Hotel Vladivostok.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
3. Yes--but I've felt this before...
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 10:44 PM
Feb 2018

...so I'm not counting on anything. But God--let something, anything happen. Hopefully, with Pence along for the ride. Even Ryan would be better than this...

mazzarro

(3,450 posts)
49. 2020 election will be needed to restore things, IMO
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 01:43 AM
Mar 2018

I have the feeling that whenever drumpf administration hits the skids, whomever takes over will be severely hobbled politically until the 2020 election cleans out the political rut.

Cosmocat

(14,543 posts)
61. Think about Pence for a moment
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:33 AM
Mar 2018

Given the NeverEnding graft, the never ending lunacy, the never ending reality show type atmosphere, given his boss is never ending buffoonery, given his bosses never ending assault on the Constitution comet given his bosses never ending incivility, through it all Mike Pence smiles.

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
4. If you mean collapse in Red Dons presence then no, It will take act of congress and it should...
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 10:46 PM
Feb 2018

... if you're talking about a collapse mentally it happened long ago.

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
29. Interesting.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 11:37 PM
Feb 2018

I think we are approaching a tipping point, since so many staff people lost their clearances. Add to that some increase in the speed and pressure of the Mueller investigation. And even Kelly and Sessions recognizing Trump can't afford to fire them now.

It's not the end. But it's getting there.

BigmanPigman

(51,432 posts)
31. Yes, this is "the middle" part of the saga.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 11:42 PM
Feb 2018

When Manafort was indicted the pundits agreed that THAT was the "end of the beginning" so if you look at the whole picture we are in the middle. Most pundits agree that this will go into 2019.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
10. Two of his closest coming apart at the seams on the same day
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 10:53 PM
Feb 2018

Plus the Mueller questions directly about the POTUS. The cracks in the foundation are widening faster.

leanforward

(1,073 posts)
12. Yes, biggly (sp)
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 10:57 PM
Feb 2018

Today, noted two articles from various sources that point to Chicago.

Who is the dRumpf contact out there? First, the loan to Jared, then a report of a $50 million loan back to mr dRumpf and him paying a $4 million interest accrual/payment, through an LLC.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
13. I'll believe it when I see it happen.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 10:57 PM
Feb 2018

Yeah, Rachel is working us up. But until the indictments are handed down I'll just keep drinking heavily.

Denis 11

(280 posts)
15. I hope so!
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 10:59 PM
Feb 2018

I can't believe the depths Rush and Beck go to excuse the through s*it show that is this administration.

Denis 11

(280 posts)
50. I heard him defending Jared Kushner.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:16 AM
Mar 2018

I am not really up to speed on any thing Jeff Beck, but I heard him spinning that Jared's troubles we're being blown out of proportion.
If anyone in President Obama's administration had done similarly, they would have been apoplectic.

LiberalFighter

(50,504 posts)
17. The stress will build on DT. He won't be able to handle it.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 11:00 PM
Feb 2018

It is likely he has gone ballistic many times.

Probably really pissed off that Sessions had dinner with Rosenstein.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
34. That dinner was definitely an Up-Yours Mr. Trump by Sessions.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 11:46 PM
Feb 2018

Another sign the the wheels are coming off and Sessions pretty much knows that now it would be an absolute disaster for Trump to fire him.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
51. I think so. Sounds like she was a major emotional support for him. Take
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 06:19 AM
Mar 2018

Ivanka away too and he'll really be adrift!

Turbineguy

(37,212 posts)
21. People go to Washington
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 11:12 PM
Feb 2018

to be part of something bigger than themselves, but at the same time..... The Power.

With trump, that's not working.

ooky

(8,887 posts)
22. Yes. Mueller getting closer to Trump every day.
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 11:16 PM
Feb 2018

He is making an ironclad case that’s eventually going to lock up some Trumps.

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
27. People are leaving, can't wait to bail. I wonder if SHS will
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 11:27 PM
Feb 2018

Leave if scarramucci becomes her boss?

It's a wonder anyone is there to answer the phones.

liberalmuse

(18,670 posts)
35. After reading the news this morning,
Wed Feb 28, 2018, 11:54 PM
Feb 2018

I've had this WH scenario running through my head:

&ab_channel=WunHunDread
 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
38. Rachel relies on specifics and specifics seldom mean anything
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 12:11 AM
Mar 2018

I feel bad for people who don't understand that. If you watch Rachel Maddow you'll always have a nice repetitive view of what happened yesterday combined with a brutal assessment of what is likely for tomorrow.

hibbing

(10,076 posts)
40. pessimist
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 12:13 AM
Mar 2018

I'll stick with my prediction that he will serve 4 years. I must admit I'm frightened at the thought of the deplorables reaction if he got forced out.


Peace

FailureToCommunicate

(13,989 posts)
44. Thanks! As that list gets longer each week, you gotta wonder about the real work a
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 12:26 AM
Mar 2018

President and staff are SUPPOSED to be doing...

 

Sam McGee

(347 posts)
42. The Trump White House . . .
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 12:16 AM
Mar 2018

The Trump White House will survive, but, I can see an isolated, raging, angry, friendless Donald Trump wandering the family quarters, alone, hair in disarray, bathrobe falling open around his lard ass, raving, tweeting . . . Melania and Barron back in NY; Jared in jail; Ivanka in hiding . . . and all of it well-deserved.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,072 posts)
45. Yep...
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 12:29 AM
Mar 2018

... have seen that as the goal, also. One by one, pick off all of those around Trump, and watch him turn into a fruitcake in front of a Georgetown bakery.

pnwest

(3,265 posts)
55. What happened with Sessions? I keep
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:00 AM
Mar 2018

seeing references to something he did/ said today, but can’t find info.... TIA

Mike Nelson

(9,903 posts)
62. Yes, but...
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 07:54 AM
Mar 2018

...it's the same feeling after most Maddow shows, since he was "elected" President. It's been a "collapse" since the beginning - and she points that out repeatedly. His fans don't care.

lapfog_1

(29,166 posts)
63. yes
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 08:42 AM
Mar 2018

the NRAGOP is starting to turn on Cheetolini. They now must move quickly to get Trump to resign before January 2019. They have to before Mueller finds too much dirt on Pence because President Pelosi sounds just too horrifying to them.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
67. I've been predicting imminent collapse of the Trump myth and organization for years.
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 10:47 AM
Mar 2018

I'm long past tired of being wrong. How does this fool keep finding people willing to keep him afloat?

When the fall happens, it will be a cascade of failures. We will eventually be amazed at how fragile the whole shebang was, and at how our representatives failed to even pluck at any of the loose threads.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
69. After Mueller is done talking with the White House employees...
Thu Mar 1, 2018, 03:44 PM
Mar 2018

He will move down the chain to the Republican Party to see who can be charged and who needs shunned from any future government position. Mueller was selected to clean house of all the Russian traitors in the U.S. Government.

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