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SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 10:54 AM Jul 2012

When "businessmen" run for the presidency, we should run away from them.

A country is NOT a business.

Successful businessmen are usually comfortable with cutting losses.

They think in terms of quarterly gains, profit-loss accounting.

The common-good is not of much concern to most successful businessmen.

Money,the pursuit of it, and the retention of it, is their goal..Their ONLY goal.

What WOULD Romney do to for the impoverished states?...Sell them?..Lay off the inhabitants? Self-deportation help for them to go back to their ancestral homelands of their great-grandparents?

Do the poor folks in those states really think that a republican businessman will have their best interests at heart.Think back to what the last Republican president did for them.

Successful businessmen do not "throw good money after bad". They cut their losses and let the chips fall where they may, without much (if any) thoughts of the futures of the people who get whacked in the process.

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When "businessmen" run for the presidency, we should run away from them. (Original Post) SoCalDem Jul 2012 OP
Good points! treestar Jul 2012 #1
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #3
I agree. Not that there aren't businessmen Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #2
Reminds me of Republican people that I've had conversations with about.... BlueJazz Jul 2012 #4
"common good" Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #8
this thought hit me as well Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #5
We REALLY shouldn't want to have somebody in office whose "business experience" Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #6
I don't want rMoney running the country like a business -- and I certainly don't nichomachus Jul 2012 #7
For-profit corporations are run solely in the interests of stockholders, not customers. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2012 #9
rMoney is a corporate raider. lpbk2713 Jul 2012 #10

treestar

(82,383 posts)
1. Good points!
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 10:56 AM
Jul 2012

Useful for right wingers now claiming that running a successful business means one would make a good President. And the Mittwit cannot really be credited with that as he was born into it - it's more of an argument for Ross Perot or the likes of Steve Jobs. And we know Steve Jobs didn't care about the common good.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
3. Actually ...
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:06 AM
Jul 2012

I'd say the romney's involvement with Bain is an exemplar of that argument ... And moreso, because the Bain model made him the businessman's businessman; unconnected to any business, but making money by forcing/convincing other businessmen into the position of "not throwing good money after bad."

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
2. I agree. Not that there aren't businessmen
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:03 AM
Jul 2012

who could do the job well- but a venture capitalist isn't one of those imo.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
4. Reminds me of Republican people that I've had conversations with about....
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:08 AM
Jul 2012

...Mass Transit.

"It doesn't make a profit"

Me: It's not necessarily suppose to make a profit. It's suppose to allow people who want to, to
have a means to get to work, get to stores, and also pleasurable activities. It saves money for those that use it, it saves POLLUTION problems, TRAFFIC problems, PARKING problems and a host of other problem things that detract from the quality of life. I mean, Damn...roads don't make a profit, Traffic lights don't make a profit (for a city)...can't you see that all this is for the common good??

They can't...because they're dumb-ass Republicans.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,409 posts)
8. "common good"
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:29 AM
Jul 2012

is a concept that Republicans and right-wingers clearly don't understand. It has to affect them personally before it means something to them and sometimes they are even oblivious to the concept that other people might need help with the same thing too and that they may not have all the same resources and/or advantages they do.


We need a massive campaign to remind people where things like roads, police, fire departments, schools, etc. come from and how they are provided for. Most people think it's great to continually have their taxes cut until their utility bills go up, school fees go up, potholes don't get repaired, etc.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,409 posts)
6. We REALLY shouldn't want to have somebody in office whose "business experience"
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:19 AM
Jul 2012

involves ripping up and selling off companies. That may be all well and fine out there in the business world but I wouldn't want to see that kind of "experience" brought into our government.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
7. I don't want rMoney running the country like a business -- and I certainly don't
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:26 AM
Jul 2012

want him running it the way he's running his campaign.

Can you say "un-Mitt-igated disaster?"

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
9. For-profit corporations are run solely in the interests of stockholders, not customers.
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:32 AM
Jul 2012

Stockholders are those who invest money in order to expect a dividend, a return from earnings. Ordinary customers are simply a means to an end for shareholder profit.

Thus, if we were to try to make the "country as a corporation" analogy, and ordinary citizens are considered customers, then shareholders would have to be special interests who pay in order to expect special returns.

Therefore, if we have any sense of decency, we would make one thing perfectly clear. This country should NOT be run like a for-profit business.

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