Trump's rejection of due process for gun owners points to his disdain for the rule of law

[DonViejo]

The Daily 202: Trump’s rejection of due process for gun owners points to his disdain for the rule of law

By James Hohmann March 1 at 8:19 AM

With Breanne Deppisch and Joanie Greve.

THE BIG IDEA: A few hours after President Trump called it “disgraceful” that his attorney general is not using Justice Department lawyers to more aggressively pursue perceived critics, he declared at the White House that cops should be able to confiscate guns from American citizens without due process. “Take the guns first, go through due process second,” he said.

These might have been defining moments for any previous president, but they weren’t even the biggest stories of the day. It was just another Wednesday in Trump’s Washington, where many have become inured to comments and actions that suggest both disregard and even disdain for the rule of law.

During a televised roundtable with lawmakers to discuss what should be done to prevent future school shootings like the one in Florida, Vice President Pence began discussing the concept of gun violence restraining orders. He noted that states like California let local law enforcement officers go to court and obtain an order to collect someone’s firearms when red flags suggest they are a potential danger to themselves or others. “Allow due process, so that no one's rights are trampled,” Pence said.

Trump interrupted. “Or, Mike, take the firearms first and then go to court,” he said. “Because a lot of times, by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court, to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man's case that just took place in Florida. … To go to court would have taken a long time.”

Removing any doubt that he might have misspoke, the president circled back later to complain that there are too many “checks and balances” that limit what can be done to prevent mentally unfit people from buying or keeping guns. “So we have to do something very decisive,” he said.

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[riversedge]

1. The legal concept of due process is as old as the Magna Carta.

............Whatever your view of Second Amendment jurisprudence, Trump’s flippant comments showed a startling indifference for foundational rights that are enumerated in the Fourth, Fifth and 14th amendments. The legal concept of due process is as old as the Magna Carta.

It doesn’t seem like an exaggeration to say that some Republican members of Congress would have called for Barack Obama’s impeachment if he had ever called for taking people’s guns away without due process. It’s certainly a more extreme statement than Obama’s 2008 claim that people in rural areas weren’t voting for him because they “cling” to guns and religion. Even a decade later, Obama hasn’t lived that down. Republicans routinely cite it in their stump speeches.

But only one Republican member of Congress appears to have sent out a news release objecting to Trump’s comments. “We’re not ditching any Constitutional protections simply because the last person the president talked to today doesn’t like them,” Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) said in a statement.

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[poboy2]

2. this was my immediate reaction as well.

Nevermind the subject, due process MUST be followed.
Change whatever law however you wish, but DUE PROCESS is elemental, non-negotiable to the American way of life.

[From the Harem]

3. Take the guns first, go through due process second, he said.

Why not?!!! Cops already confiscate cash, and then folks have to pay lawyers to go to court and prove it wasn't illegal cash that the cops stole, after all!

Sarcasm/

[duforsure]

4. His analogy

Ignore due process to take away weapons from suspected mentally ill people, so Congress he just gave you the opportunity to do it, to him , take away his ability to use nuclear weapons.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

5. This support that approach has gotten here has been disconcerting and unsurprising.

[poboy2]

7. I think there was a thread giving Agent Orange 'credit'

for this totalitarian idea.

"I'll say it..." -yeah, I'll say its authoritarian bullshit.

[sarisataka]

10. Memories are short

Very short

[Orsino]

6. This wasn't a "rejection of due process."

It's Dumb Donald not knowing what the fuck due process is, and not caring. Whenever he opens his mouth, he's bluffing based on little or no knowledge, and here's the WaPo trying to take his words as indicative of some sort of policy.

Write a real story, WaPo. Stop wasting my time.

[poboy2]

8. I actually this you are right. He's a fucking moron and

doesn't know any better so ascribing 'policy' to the thought vomit is giving it more than it deserves, but then again...
HE's the damned president. He talks this shit, he should get shit....or take his criminal incompetent ass out.

[winstars]

9. tRump has clearly watched too many movies like Lethal Weapon with the yelling superior officer.

Yelling at the cop for breaking the rules in order to "get things done"….

The first Dirty Harry comes to mind…

Turn in your shield and gun Donald!!!


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