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Thu Mar 1, 2018, 10:22 PM

 

I just finished watching that Waco miniseries; its timing couldnt be worse.

Last thing we needed while trying to convince people that they donít need guns to protect themselves from their government is a widely watched miniseries about one of the most egregious government abuses of force in our countryís history.

An abuse of force that started, of course, as an attempt to confiscate (illegal) guns...

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2018, 10:45 PM

1. Waco was a dangerous cult...could have been handled better no doubt...but it shows what happens when

you go up against the government...you lose.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:02 PM

2. Oh bullshit

 


Occupants of the building opened fire on officers serving a duly issued warrant.

No, there is no legal right to hole up in an armed fortress to evade arrest.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:23 PM

4. Its normal to use tanks on civilians? nt

 

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:28 PM

5. It was an armored vehicle with an attached battering ram.

But hey, feel free to defend a child molesting, murderous cult leader.

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Response to denbot (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:01 AM

8. Fair enough. Feel free to defend the militarization of police forces.

 

I assume you are just as passionate in your defense of ICE agents as they fulfill their duties?

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:25 AM

9. You assumed wrong..

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Response to MadDAsHell (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:53 PM

6. The initial contact did not involve "tanks"

 


When a lawful warrant is being served, you reserve your rights to challenge its legality in court. You do not shoot at the people serving it. You will be met with deadly force. You further then do not have the right to spend several weeks dawdling about an negotiating the terms of your arrest.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:05 PM

3. Not sure they were dangerous to anyone but each other...

at least until the ATF showed up. Koresh could have been arrested on the sidewalk.

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Response to BaileyBill (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 1, 2018, 11:54 PM

7. Child molestors are not dangerous in your opinion

 

You are entitled to your opinion.

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Response to BaileyBill (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:58 AM

12. Is imprisoning women dangerous? Sexual abuse of a 12-year-old?

Creating an arsenal including automatic weapons and grenade launchers by a "messiah" who saw the end times coming, is that dangerous to anyone?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/waco-siege-48-hours-reveals-new-details-in-deadly-texas-standoff/

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:38 AM

10. I got about 1/3 of the way through the 1st episode and quit.

I thought it was (miraculously) both over-the-top and boring as hell.

He burned his followers alive. Fuck David Koresh.

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Response to MadDAsHell (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2018, 12:52 AM

11. "One of the most egregious government abuses of force" in our history? Seriously?

Have you ever read the history of the government's treatment of Native Americans? Or the complicty of law enforcement in the south in the murder of thousands of blacks?

Koresh imprisoned women, sexually abused children and was given numerous opportunities to leave peacefully. You need to read further about him and what happened there before making statements like that. Unfortunately the writer/director went overboard in trying to portray both sides as humans, leaving out all kinds of evil things Koresh had done and yeah, unfortunately some RW nutjobs are going to buy into it like you did.

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