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OK! Gotta ask: Does anyone know anyone who sits and talks crossed armed like Trump? (Original Post) rgbecker Mar 2018 OP
It is a classic defensive posture dhol82 Mar 2018 #1
It also signals that the person is hiding something, Butterflylady Mar 2018 #10
Or that they are cold. Ms. Toad Mar 2018 #45
Or angry child posture: tblue37 Mar 2018 #24
Exactly my thought. klook Mar 2018 #30
Defensive posture masquerading as astonish-me aggressiveness. Orsino Mar 2018 #26
Right on both assessments! tonyt53 Mar 2018 #28
I think hes trying to channel il duche lunatica Mar 2018 #34
I've seen it in movies Sanity Claws Mar 2018 #2
He has a clear tell when lying - his lips move. ksoze Mar 2018 #3
Yup, that is the way I think of him. dhol82 Mar 2018 #44
Hitler Firestorm49 Mar 2018 #4
Not Hitler SCantiGOP Mar 2018 #27
Google: Trump Mussolini LongTomH Mar 2018 #38
It seems to me like a very defensive posture Ohiogal Mar 2018 #5
His torso is so thick, though, that his arms seem to strain to cross over it. tblue37 Mar 2018 #22
Yes I've seen it before, unconscious defensive move. rustydog Mar 2018 #6
A boss, bully, arrogant ass, or someone who thinks that he is the most important person in the room? imanamerican63 Mar 2018 #7
It's a classic sign of sincere interest dalton99a Mar 2018 #8
sulking Takket Mar 2018 #9
He is practicing... sheshe2 Mar 2018 #11
Defensive Faux pas Mar 2018 #12
I had a boss from hell, a Dean who sat like that in every meeting I was in with him. redstatebluegirl Mar 2018 #13
Had a division officer that did that. haele Mar 2018 #14
OMG! How horrible! Ilsa Mar 2018 #18
Yup, he was transferred to another command and "allowed" to retire. haele Mar 2018 #23
Someone in a straitjacket. Vinca Mar 2018 #15
+1,673,285 Dang, I wish I thought of that one! TheBlackAdder Mar 2018 #17
Dudes who are self-conscious about the size of their tits :-D TheBlackAdder Mar 2018 #16
haaaaaa!!! I love it! nt Ilsa Mar 2018 #19
You win the thread. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2018 #43
That is how kids sit when Mom is tearing into them.... Tikki Mar 2018 #20
This person is saying, "I don't want to be here Ilsa Mar 2018 #21
This is very silly. DavidDvorkin Mar 2018 #25
I've seen Chris Matthews do it frequently PatSeg Mar 2018 #29
I was in sales financial products gibraltar72 Mar 2018 #31
Yes actually ismnotwasm Mar 2018 #32
I saw it when I worked a psychiatric hospital left-of-center2012 Mar 2018 #33
It's very common. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #35
Watch videos of him during the national anthem. slater71 Mar 2018 #36
He thinks its a power stance lunatica Mar 2018 #37
My mom started doing that when she got older mercuryblues Mar 2018 #39
Didn't Mussolini frequently strike that pose? nt Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2018 #40
Hes so defensive. He needs a body language coach samnsara Mar 2018 #41
He would never listen to any corrections dhol82 Mar 2018 #46
it is defensive and defiant. Like, I am listening but I will not do what you demigoddess Mar 2018 #42
I can't believe I'm the only one using that posture because of the temperature Ms. Toad Mar 2018 #47
Just a pouting toddler who doesn't want to go to bed. sinkingfeeling Mar 2018 #48

Ms. Toad

(33,999 posts)
45. Or that they are cold.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 05:56 PM
Mar 2018

I sit that way fairly frequently when I'm cold - but I am conscious of the message it sends.

klook

(12,152 posts)
30. Exactly my thought.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:09 PM
Mar 2018

Can't wait for li'l Donnie to take his ball and go home -- or better, to prison.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
26. Defensive posture masquerading as astonish-me aggressiveness.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:07 PM
Mar 2018

I think he also does it to conceal his belly, though.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
34. I think hes trying to channel il duche
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:15 PM
Mar 2018

He thinks he looks formidable and badass. Whenever he does it he also juts his chin out.

It just looks stupid though. Especially when he’s seated. But then we know he doesn’t get it like with his “hairdo”. He totally deluded about his physical appearance, even when everyone laughs at him.

Sanity Claws

(21,841 posts)
2. I've seen it in movies
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 01:35 PM
Mar 2018

The person was in a straitjacket.

Other than that, no, I have not seen anyone sit like that.

SCantiGOP

(13,866 posts)
27. Not Hitler
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:08 PM
Mar 2018

Mussolini is the one who we picture as mugging for the audience with crossed arms.
Besides, Hitler was way smarter and understood a lot more about how things work than Trump ever will.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
38. Google: Trump Mussolini
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:34 PM
Mar 2018

Click on 'images' Or Google on "The reincarnation of Benito Mussolini" and click on images again.

Ohiogal

(31,924 posts)
5. It seems to me like a very defensive posture
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 01:37 PM
Mar 2018

As if he doesn't want to listen to any criticism or ideas other than his own. "I am KING, how DARE you CROSS me, PEASANT!"

Also, that disgusting scowl. He and Melania are both scowlers.

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
22. His torso is so thick, though, that his arms seem to strain to cross over it.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:01 PM
Mar 2018

I am a tubby myself, but I don't have anywhere near that much trouble or strain trying to cross my arms.

Or maybe he just has unusually short arms to go with his tiny hands and short fingers.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
6. Yes I've seen it before, unconscious defensive move.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 01:37 PM
Mar 2018

He is shutting out those he is displeased with or those who are telling him something he does not want to hear. He'll continue to rant, but, like when Jay Inslee took him to the woodshed you saw Trump's face darken, frown then he crossed his arms shutting Inslee out. He kept them crossed as he responded to what he did not want to hear.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
13. I had a boss from hell, a Dean who sat like that in every meeting I was in with him.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 01:46 PM
Mar 2018

He was a real piece of work.

haele

(12,640 posts)
14. Had a division officer that did that.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 01:49 PM
Mar 2018

Lying sack o' Sh*** who forgot he was once enlisted and was trying to get an oak leaf going the political route rather than actually taking care of his division and managing it properly.
We were a maintenance division, not a kiss-up-to-the-admiral division.
Two suicides while he was assigned there. The second took his personal .22 pistol to work and shot himself outside in the passageway after trying to shoot the division officer and missing.

Haele

haele

(12,640 posts)
23. Yup, he was transferred to another command and "allowed" to retire.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:02 PM
Mar 2018

There wasn't technically anything they could pin on him - because aggressively "by the book" is not against the UCMJ, but his FITREP was trashed because of the investigation findings of low morale and all the "little exaggerations" he was prone to.

Haele

Tikki

(14,549 posts)
20. That is how kids sit when Mom is tearing into them....
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:00 PM
Mar 2018

learned behavior...becomes a habit when done continually as a kid.

Tikki

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
21. This person is saying, "I don't want to be here
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:01 PM
Mar 2018

amongst all you little people who don't mean anything to me, and I don't care to hide my feelings by adjusting or relaxing my body language, so deal with it."

gibraltar72

(7,499 posts)
31. I was in sales financial products
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:13 PM
Mar 2018

Almost always if I encountered crossed arms it meant I'm not listening or you're not getting through. I found it most in men. In fact when dealing with a man and wife and family security the selfish one was usually the man. Usually I found less than a partnership more one sided relationship.

ismnotwasm

(41,967 posts)
32. Yes actually
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:14 PM
Mar 2018

Trump reminds me of my Dad quite a bit, but my Dad used to lace his fingers on top of his head—in a “I’m superior” posture. He’d cross his arms as well, in situations were he couldn’t assert himself in manner he was used to.

I have to say though, My Dad was an asshole, but Not a Trump class asshole, from what I can tell.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
33. I saw it when I worked a psychiatric hospital
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:14 PM
Mar 2018

Some patients would sit with their arms crossed,
and rock back and forth,
withdrawing 'into themselves'.

Sort of a defensive position.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
35. It's very common.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:19 PM
Mar 2018

I do a lot of negotiating and dispute mitigation. Much of it face to face. It really only signifies a couple of things. Discomfort. Concealment. Withdraw. Some others as well.

slater71

(1,153 posts)
36. Watch videos of him during the national anthem.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:22 PM
Mar 2018

With his hand over his heart, he pats his chest and other times when he standing when someone else is talking. he swivels his upper body. Just like a child. Can`t stand still.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
37. He thinks its a power stance
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:22 PM
Mar 2018

He’s saying, “This meeting is beneath me and I’m just waiting for it to be over.” And, “You’re talking but I’m not interested and never will be.”

mercuryblues

(14,525 posts)
39. My mom started doing that when she got older
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 02:38 PM
Mar 2018

She would toss out an insulting and demeaning barb, then cross her arms as people called her out on it. Then act oblivious to it all. A Who me? type of look.

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
46. He would never listen to any corrections
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 05:57 PM
Mar 2018

Can’t you see the teacher walking in and little Donnie crossing his arms and screaming that he didn’t do anything wrong?

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
42. it is defensive and defiant. Like, I am listening but I will not do what you
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 03:23 PM
Mar 2018

want, I will do what I want to do!! So there!!!

Ms. Toad

(33,999 posts)
47. I can't believe I'm the only one using that posture because of the temperature
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 06:00 PM
Mar 2018

If it's cold, and I'm not using a keyboard, each hand is in the opposite armpit to keep it warm.

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