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babylonsister

(171,042 posts)
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 03:33 PM Mar 2018

Pierce: I Need a Shower After Reading This

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a19054377/scott-lloyd-refugees/

I Need a Shower After Reading This
A Vice News report on the ORR's Scott Lloyd is grotesque.
By Charles P. Pierce
Mar 2, 2018


On Thursday night, kindly Doc Maddow did a bathysphere excursion into the case of one Scott Lloyd, an anti-choice fanatic who has been placed in charge of the Office of Refugee Resettlement. This is the organization that takes care of minor children who enter this country without their parents and without documentation. Lloyd is currently tangled up with the ACLU because he consistently denies the requests of young women in his custody to obtain abortions.

He is not faring well, as VICE News explains.

Seven immigrant teenagers in federal custody asked the Trump administration to let them get abortions between March and December 2017, but their requests were personally refused by an official known for his anti-abortion views, documents exclusively obtained by VICE News show. All of the girls were eventually allowed to undergo the procedure, though three of them fought for and won the right in court after filing suit against the Trump administration. Their court documents reveal the lengths one Trump administration official has gone to in order to stop undocumented teens in the government’s care from getting abortions.


Lloyd is the very definition of a well-tailored extremist. He has written that abortion and contraception are equally immoral. But that’s to be expected. Those types are a dime a dozen in the anti-choice universe. (Remember—the real target isn’t Roe. It’s always been Griswold, and the constitutional right to privacy that case asserted.) But, on top of his fanaticism, Lloyd also appears to be 11 different kinds of creepy, and he has been given what is essentially a captive population on which to practice his peculiar enthusiasms.

Lloyd receives a spreadsheet every week containing information on every pregnant teen in ORR’s custody, including the fetus’s gestational age and whether the teen has asked for an abortion. Lloyd says agency policy forbids staff from taking any actions to help a minor in ORR custody get an abortion unless he personally authorizes the procedure.


This guy is conducting his own personal war on reproductive rights, using detained children as pawns, and conducting it on our dime. Lovely.


If a minor doesn’t want to tell her parents about her pregnancy, most states require that she get a judge to grant her permission to get an abortion in a process known as a “judicial bypass.” One pregnant teen in an Arizona ORR-operated shelter obtained that bypass, since she worried that her father would “retaliate” against her mother if he found out his daughter had an abortion. (Both the teen’s parents still live in her home country, which wasn’t named in court documents.) The teen also feared that if her brother knew about her abortion, he would tell her parents and force the mother to face “future retaliation.” Lloyd instructed staff to tell the girl’s parents about the abortion anyway, emails show. This wasn’t the only time Lloyd did this, according to the deposition. He also told ORR staffers to tell the parents of Jane Doe, the first minor to sue the Trump administration over access to abortion, in October, that she was pregnant. One of Doe’s lawyers, Susan Hays, told VICE News at the time of her case that Doe feared abuse from her parents.

Creepy is as creepy does.

Lloyd personally visited one teen in ORR’s custody who was considering having an abortion. In March emails sent shortly after his visit, Lloyd wondered whether the shelter staff could give the girl more bananas and a better mattress.


Nothing but the best people. Ever.

I need a shower now.
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Pierce: I Need a Shower After Reading This (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2018 OP
Beyond creepy. Way beyond creepy. TreasonousBastard Mar 2018 #1
KnR Hekate Mar 2018 #2
This person should not be employable by US Government. dchill Mar 2018 #3
I hope his dick falls off. Lars39 Mar 2018 #4
I feel like throwing up. smirkymonkey Mar 2018 #5
elections have consequences maxsolomon Mar 2018 #6
In his mind, just doing the Lords work. You know, his lord...the one with the sagittate tail. nt yonder Mar 2018 #7
Goddamn sick fuck dalton99a Mar 2018 #8
Isn't this what the nazi Herr Doktors did in the concentration camps? erronis Mar 2018 #9
Need a shower after viewing Scott Lloyd testimony? SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2018 #10
Was this monster appointed by Trump? world wide wally Mar 2018 #11
His behavior is obsessive and pathological, IMO. Laffy Kat Mar 2018 #12
This isn't creepy, it's SICK!! Ferrets are Cool Mar 2018 #13
He Is Cramming His Religious Beliefs Down Everyone Else's Throats Leith Mar 2018 #14
Kinda puts him in the same league as Mengele Texin Mar 2018 #15
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Mar 2018 #16
This is some straight-up Nazi shit right here. Iggo Mar 2018 #17
This is awful mcar Mar 2018 #18
Rachel had some clips of him NastyRiffraff Mar 2018 #19
I saw that and had to stop what I was doing... BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #20
K&R Solly Mack Mar 2018 #21

maxsolomon

(33,265 posts)
6. elections have consequences
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 03:53 PM
Mar 2018

I doubt many trumpists feel any outrage. they're probably applauding.

abortion is THE issue that determines the votes of my german catholic relatives in ohio, particularly my female cousins. nothing else can sway them. they believe it is murder and they are indoctrinating their children to believe it too. one cousin sent her twin sons to the RTL march in DC every year they were in high school.

erronis

(15,216 posts)
9. Isn't this what the nazi Herr Doktors did in the concentration camps?
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 05:14 PM
Mar 2018

Experimentation with the goal of extermination?

Leith

(7,808 posts)
14. He Is Cramming His Religious Beliefs Down Everyone Else's Throats
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 06:02 PM
Mar 2018

and he has a position of power to do it with.

As others said, he's a sick fuck.

Iggo

(47,545 posts)
17. This is some straight-up Nazi shit right here.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 06:16 PM
Mar 2018

"Lloyd receives a spreadsheet every week containing information on every pregnant teen in ORR’s custody, including the fetus’s gestational age and whether the teen has asked for an abortion. Lloyd says agency policy forbids staff from taking any actions to help a minor in ORR custody get an abortion unless he personally authorizes the procedure."

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
19. Rachel had some clips of him
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 06:34 PM
Mar 2018

He was answering questions from an ACLU (I think) attorney. He had absolutely no affect, no facial or vocal expression. Very creepy.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
20. I saw that and had to stop what I was doing...
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 07:01 PM
Mar 2018

I had to see his face and expressions. I wanted to know what this sick fuckers acted like. He looks young, too squeaky clean and neat. I could easily see him wearing a white Polo shirt, khakis, and carrying a tiki torch. I am glad Rachel exposed him for the monster he is. It was the ACLU who is going after him.

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