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Do any of you have opinions about Tom Steyer, of NeedToImpeach.com? (Original Post) LAS14 Mar 2018 OP
The Senate will not convict on any impeachment charges so he's wasting money if that is his goal. LonePirate Mar 2018 #1
He says some of his money is going there, too. Nt spooky3 Mar 2018 #7
The important thing is we respond LanternWaste Mar 2018 #27
When his approval goes to 25% and his negatives are 75% the Republicans will march him out grantcart Mar 2018 #28
I don't think it's actually going anywhere, honestly. bearsfootball516 Mar 2018 #2
I appreciate what he's doing C_U_L8R Mar 2018 #3
Yes I support NeedToImpeach.com underthematrix Mar 2018 #4
On a surface level, what he is doing is great as the truth needs to be OnDoutside Mar 2018 #5
BTW underthematrix Mar 2018 #6
It's great that he's trying, but NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #8
My opinion is his money is better spent TheDebbieDee Mar 2018 #9
raising awareness and assuaging his own conscience, I think. hlthe2b Mar 2018 #10
Yes, he's very well intentioned, but he lacks any charisma and his commericals are somewhat boring.. Rollo Mar 2018 #32
He's getting a message out to those who don't watch Fox or MSNBC BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #11
His message is "I want you to know my name, Tom Steyer." That's why he's IN all the commercials TeamPooka Mar 2018 #17
well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. I've seen him on talk shows & he's passionate BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #19
In addition to Trump GWC58 Mar 2018 #30
I think it's good oswaldactedalone Mar 2018 #12
He is targeting the maggot, which leaves the dems the time & money to target other things Motley13 Mar 2018 #13
Steyer is passionate about issues like the environment and climate change. Blue_true Mar 2018 #14
A billionaire trying to make a public name for himself so he can run for office later on. TeamPooka Mar 2018 #15
so you said up thread. How do you feel about Oprah and Clooney for example? BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #20
I believe in electing experienced policy makers, not celebrities. This isn't Idiocracy, yet. TeamPooka Mar 2018 #34
I believe in multi pronged approaches to bigly ugly problems BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #42
I hope you will change your mind when he is elected president and give him a chance. (eom) StevieM Mar 2018 #22
another billionaire who knows best for us? I'll pass. TeamPooka Mar 2018 #33
I hope that you will vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is, assuming that something crazy StevieM Mar 2018 #36
I always vote for our party's nominee because we never nominate billionaires like the GOP does. TeamPooka Mar 2018 #37
Steyer is a great environmentalist who wants to stop climate change and save the planet. StevieM Mar 2018 #39
and you are basically agreeing with my point there too. TeamPooka Mar 2018 #35
Regardless, as I wrote to the poster above you, I hope you will support whoever our party's nominee StevieM Mar 2018 #40
It promotes an important narrative. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #16
Agree. SharonClark Mar 2018 #18
It's clear that propoganda from the Right and Russia works. BoneyardDem Mar 2018 #23
I love Tom Steyer. Gov. Jay Inslee (D-WA) too. They are my top choices for president in 2020. (eom) StevieM Mar 2018 #21
I met him long ago TheHak Mar 2018 #24
What's an allocator? What's farallon? nt LAS14 Mar 2018 #25
He is doing what he can. He has chosen the ads and a movement to impeach lunasun Mar 2018 #26
I like the guy...and I would impeach Trump tomorrow if we had the votes and if we could Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #29
I admire him for putting his money where his mouth is....and i hope it pisses off trump spanone Mar 2018 #31
I like it when rich people support good causes with their money JI7 Mar 2018 #38
He's presenting the seeds of thought for others to cultivate. TheBlackAdder Mar 2018 #41

LonePirate

(13,412 posts)
1. The Senate will not convict on any impeachment charges so he's wasting money if that is his goal.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:29 PM
Mar 2018

If he is raising his profile or shining a light on 45's crimes, then he's more successful.

I would prefer that he spend his money registering people to vote, especially in places like AZ, FL, GA, NC and TX.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
27. The important thing is we respond
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 07:44 PM
Mar 2018

The important thing is we respond to the question without actually knowing the goal. And inform our presences as to what that goal should be... again, without actually knowing the goal.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
28. When his approval goes to 25% and his negatives are 75% the Republicans will march him out
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 07:45 PM
Mar 2018

just like they did Nixon.

Right now polls are showing approval for impeachment up to about 55% so it probably is having an impact.

He is assembling a good data base of people with like minded thoughts on the subject.

bearsfootball516

(6,374 posts)
2. I don't think it's actually going anywhere, honestly.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:29 PM
Mar 2018

I signed it, but I'm not really sure what the point of it was.

C_U_L8R

(44,996 posts)
3. I appreciate what he's doing
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:30 PM
Mar 2018

but his money might be better spent combatting local Republican corruption and helping elect new Democratic House and Senate leaders.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
4. Yes I support NeedToImpeach.com
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:31 PM
Mar 2018

I have signed the petition and have consistently encouraged others to do the same. We'll only get media attention for it if can get at 30-60 million people to sign on. Here's the thing I don't understand. On FB, on Twitter and here, people are constantly talking about how they can't wait the impeach the muthaphucker but they haven't signed the damn petition.

We need people to sign it so when we get that BLUE WAVE in November there's overwhelming evidence we want that piece of shit in the WH impeached.

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
5. On a surface level, what he is doing is great as the truth needs to be
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:32 PM
Mar 2018

rammed home. I believe he's backing candidates as well and as long as he isn't targeting democratic incumbents, then that's great too.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
8. It's great that he's trying, but
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:36 PM
Mar 2018

I think the millions he has spent would better have been used supporting Democrats running for House and Senate, and expanding and improving friendly GOTV operations.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
9. My opinion is his money is better spent
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:36 PM
Mar 2018

Establishing a left-leaning radio network to undo some of the HORRIFIC mis-information distribution done by Clear Channel, Fox and that tv outlet that puts out propaganda disguised as news on local tv stations...

hlthe2b

(102,190 posts)
10. raising awareness and assuaging his own conscience, I think.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:37 PM
Mar 2018

I think they could be a lot more effective if they didn't just focus on him as spokesperson...

I do think he is quite sincere, however.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
32. Yes, he's very well intentioned, but he lacks any charisma and his commericals are somewhat boring..
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 08:02 PM
Mar 2018

To get anything done in this nation, sincerity and honest are all well and good, but glitz, humor, and charm are better persuaders.

I agree we need first need to neuter Trump legislatively.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
11. He's getting a message out to those who don't watch Fox or MSNBC
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:37 PM
Mar 2018

Last edited Fri Mar 2, 2018, 05:16 PM - Edit history (1)

...and he's pissing off Trump to no end. He's seeing those ads as often as we are.

TeamPooka

(24,216 posts)
17. His message is "I want you to know my name, Tom Steyer." That's why he's IN all the commercials
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 05:02 PM
Mar 2018

like Frank Purdue.
If he was just about the issues we wouldn't see his freaking face in every spot.
These are "look at me" political ads.
Mark me down as not impressed.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
19. well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. I've seen him on talk shows & he's passionate
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 05:17 PM
Mar 2018

...in his dislike for Trump.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
30. In addition to Trump
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 07:54 PM
Mar 2018

he should also go after any, and all, Republicans. Why are they so reluctant to do anything. I’d really go after Turtle McConnell and the Speaker, plus others. And there’s plenty of corrupt Rethugs! 👿

oswaldactedalone

(3,490 posts)
12. I think it's good
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:47 PM
Mar 2018

but the wording should be stronger. His messages end softly, saying essentially, "someone should do something." He needs a good catchphrase to make his ads memorable.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. Steyer is passionate about issues like the environment and climate change.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:56 PM
Mar 2018

He seems to be the real deal, not a "cause" jumper. But I think other rich people like the late Paul Newman and living people like John Bon Jovi do a better job of making real lasting change.

Steyer is a renowned investment management guy, he could personally funds efforts to find new clean energy technologies and technological methods for reversing the effects of climate change (capture before gases get to the atmosphere, high atmosphere gas specific savaging technology). But he seems more interested in spending his money on politics exclusively, which is ok, but often suffer setbacks that are major.

TeamPooka

(24,216 posts)
15. A billionaire trying to make a public name for himself so he can run for office later on.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 04:59 PM
Mar 2018

but I'm a cynical kind of guy at heart.
I've seen too many rich guys say "I have enough money, let's get some power and influence since I'm so rich I must be smart and important."

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
20. so you said up thread. How do you feel about Oprah and Clooney for example?
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 05:19 PM
Mar 2018

Don't you think that there is possible a genuine dislike from Trump and they simply have the money to tout that dislike?

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
42. I believe in multi pronged approaches to bigly ugly problems
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 09:58 PM
Mar 2018

There cannot and will not be only one approach that will finally sink Trump. Every angle that zings Trump is a good angle

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
36. I hope that you will vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is, assuming that something crazy
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 09:06 PM
Mar 2018

doesn't happen, like Joe Lieberman winning the nomination.

And Tom Steyer is no Joe Lieberman.

TeamPooka

(24,216 posts)
37. I always vote for our party's nominee because we never nominate billionaires like the GOP does.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 09:10 PM
Mar 2018

Trump, Romney, the Bush Dynasty.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
39. Steyer is a great environmentalist who wants to stop climate change and save the planet.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 09:13 PM
Mar 2018

Those men you listed do not share his values.

Are you saying that you won't vote for him if he is nominated?

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
40. Regardless, as I wrote to the poster above you, I hope you will support whoever our party's nominee
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 09:14 PM
Mar 2018

is, assuming something crazy doesn't happen, like Joe Lieberman gets nominated.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. It promotes an important narrative.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 05:00 PM
Mar 2018

All hands on deck. I don't get the "it won't work so it's a waste" crowd. Propaganda/messaging across many platforms is extremely important. Image is everything(almost).

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
23. It's clear that propoganda from the Right and Russia works.
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 05:23 PM
Mar 2018

If this type of persuasion didn't work, we'd never ever see another commercial on TV even again. Not that I'd mind that of course, but there is a reason companies spend millions on ads. It sways and persuades. The Right sure has it's propagandists in Fox news. This guy is doing the Left a service in letting the non MSNBC, non FOX News viewers get another, and may I add, a true window into the Trump problem.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
21. I love Tom Steyer. Gov. Jay Inslee (D-WA) too. They are my top choices for president in 2020. (eom)
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 05:21 PM
Mar 2018
 

TheHak

(71 posts)
24. I met him long ago
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 05:43 PM
Mar 2018

I met him some 10 years ago as an allocator into farallon. He was stepping down. He told me that he had informed his children that the only inheritance they would get is a decent planet and that he would spend all of his wealth defending it. He understood early on the immense impact of climate change and the GOP assault on our planet. His view was that the most effective way was to change political resolve and that his money would be spent to change politics. I cant say of his political ambition but at the heart of his involvment there is climate change. And he is clearly following through.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
29. I like the guy...and I would impeach Trump tomorrow if we had the votes and if we could
Fri Mar 2, 2018, 07:46 PM
Mar 2018

convict him in the Senate. Everything he says is true.

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