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orangecrush

(19,391 posts)
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:40 AM Mar 2018

Russian call girl in Thai Prison - Much more to it than you think!

Earlier this month, Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny posted a video investigation that used the Instagram posts of a woman with the handle Nastya Rybka to build a corruption investigation involving one of Russia's wealthiest men and a powerful government official.


Rybka — who is actually a Belarus-born woman named Anastasia Vashukevich — works as an escort, which is how she wound up posting a video of her and others cavorting with Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska. Also seen in the video hanging out on Deripaska's yacht: Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Prikhodko, which Nalvany said showed the close link between oligarchs and the Russian government.

The video became a whole to-do in Russia, where Deripaska has sued Instagram and YouTube to remove Rybka's posts and Nalvany's investigation.


Rybka apparently took down most of the posts on her own but Instagram — which is owned by Facebook — took down the last two to comply with a Russian court order. (The YouTube videos are still up.) Meanwhile, things get tricky when it comes to Deripaska because he used to employ Paul Manafort, Trump's one-time campaign manager who is under investigation for money laundering. But we'll come back to him.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/hayesbrown/this-is-the-absolute-craziest-russian-scandal-that-youve

They are most likely going to make her vanish before she can tell her story.


Her arrest in Thailand coincided with the arrival of an ex FSB director there.

Blown C.I.A. asset?


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Russian call girl in Thai Prison - Much more to it than you think! (Original Post) orangecrush Mar 2018 OP
Reads like a psyop. She strikes me as a very talented Russian spy. underthematrix Mar 2018 #1
Yes I wonder about this... withholding judgement for now. sharedvalues Mar 2018 #6
Curious. Liberal In Texas Mar 2018 #2
I'm pretty sure the Pussy Riot members were found. dewsgirl Mar 2018 #3
Glad to hear that. Thanks. n/t Liberal In Texas Mar 2018 #4
Just googled it. Liberal In Texas Mar 2018 #5
She is in actual danger orangecrush Mar 2018 #15
The story is getting twisted. She was part of a sex tour operation that was arrested by Thai police grantcart Mar 2018 #7
She was helping Alexei Navalny orangecrush Mar 2018 #8
She want helping Navalny she was a party girl on Depriska's yacht grantcart Mar 2018 #19
If she vanishes orangecrush Mar 2018 #24
You don't know that Bradshaw3 Mar 2018 #36
That she wasn't helping Navalny? That she was on a yacht with Deripaska? These are known facts grantcart Mar 2018 #42
She wasn't helping Navalny. Navalny doesn't believe her claims grantcart Mar 2018 #43
She claims to have audio and video proof. Vinca Mar 2018 #10
From the link... orangecrush Mar 2018 #12
Who does she expect to step forward in the US? LisaL Mar 2018 #14
She sent a letter orangecrush Mar 2018 #16
If she's deported to Russia she's definitely toast. Vinca Mar 2018 #34
There is no possibility of her being deported to Russia. She is a Belarus national. grantcart Mar 2018 #46
She had Russian passport so if she is going to be deported, back to Russia she will go. LisaL Mar 2018 #47
Good catch. If she can prove that the passport was fake and that she is a Belarus national as she grantcart Mar 2018 #49
I don't think it was fraudulent. She might have been born in Belorus but that doesn't mean she LisaL Mar 2018 #53
Not much difference between her and Melania orangecrush Mar 2018 #18
Who is the photo of? It's not the woman in question. LisaL Mar 2018 #9
Sorry orangecrush Mar 2018 #11
At first I was thinking, wow, she looks so demure. LisaL Mar 2018 #13
mug shot orangecrush Mar 2018 #17
That's again not the same woman as we are discussing. LisaL Mar 2018 #20
Damn! orangecrush Mar 2018 #21
last try... orangecrush Mar 2018 #22
That's the one. LisaL Mar 2018 #23
... orangecrush Mar 2018 #26
you can get the facts, and actual video (both the original off her instagram and in Thailand here) grantcart Mar 2018 #48
Thank you! orangecrush Mar 2018 #50
Ignore this. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #25
Buzzfeed orangecrush Mar 2018 #27
Then hang onto it. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #28
So the only difference between her and Melania orangecrush Mar 2018 #29
Thats solid. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #30
With her line of work maybe a Weinstein visa would be more appropriate. N/T Orange Free State Mar 2018 #57
Someone read my mind!!! orangecrush Mar 2018 #31
Lots of it going on. NCTraveler Mar 2018 #32
She might be a rattlesnake orangecrush Mar 2018 #39
CNN had piece on this today as well. hexola Mar 2018 #33
She gets around. orangecrush Mar 2018 #37
Red Sparrow? MineralMan Mar 2018 #35
I do confess orangecrush Mar 2018 #38
Apparently, viewers of this film will be MineralMan Mar 2018 #40
seeing it orangecrush Mar 2018 #44
By the way, you might be interested in visiting the NSA museum at MineralMan Mar 2018 #41
Thanks! orangecrush Mar 2018 #45
Went past Ft. Meade in 1972 orangecrush Mar 2018 #51
While in the USAF, I worked inside the NSA building in 1968-9. MineralMan Mar 2018 #52
Read "Puzzle Palace" orangecrush Mar 2018 #54
It's a good look at the NSA of that time, for sure. MineralMan Mar 2018 #55
The technology orangecrush Mar 2018 #59
Just saw "Red Sparrow" orangecrush Mar 2018 #62
Talk about the full spectrum of the bizarre stevenleser Mar 2018 #56
agree, Steven orangecrush Mar 2018 #58
So the Thai authorities deny Orange Free State Mar 2018 #60
My understanding orangecrush Mar 2018 #61

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
6. Yes I wonder about this... withholding judgement for now.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:57 AM
Mar 2018

But Navalny seems to back her. And Navalny SEEMS to be truly anti-Putin. So there's that.

Liberal In Texas

(13,530 posts)
2. Curious.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:18 AM
Mar 2018

But how interesting. Thank you for posting.

The convoluted and intertwined connections with the Russians and the current holders of power in our government will at some time be known and these subjects will not only be true crime books but text books in the future about how the promise of democracy was usurped by the oligarchs, transnational corporations and our traditional and current enemy, the Russians.

That poor woman probably has had a bullet in the back of her head, courtesy of the FSB.



And at last report 2 member of Piussy Riot were missing.



Liberal In Texas

(13,530 posts)
5. Just googled it.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:34 AM
Mar 2018

They're fucking Nazis in Russia. OK, maybe not Nazis. No different than than the old KGB. KGB, rebranded to FSB nicer and no more dungeons. Yeah, right.

orangecrush

(19,391 posts)
15. She is in actual danger
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 09:02 AM
Mar 2018

"If the US is going to step in, they'll have to do it soon. Another post from Rybka's account claimed that she was sick in her cell without access to a doctor and in worse conditions than before as retribution for cooperating with Navalny."
(from the link)

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
7. The story is getting twisted. She was part of a sex tour operation that was arrested by Thai police
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 03:35 AM
Mar 2018

Here from the Bangkok Post





https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/crime/1420034/sex-gurus-in-hot-water-with-police

Thai police have vowed to take legal action against a group of 10 Russians and Belarusians who were arrested this week for allegedly running a training course in Pattaya to improve customers' sexual techniques.

In a weird twist, one of the suspects posted on Instagram that she has new information to offer the authorities regarding the ongoing investigation in Washington into Russian interference in the 2016 US Presidential elections.



In other words she was arrested with a group and was going to be returned to Belarus and is trying to leverage that into a visa to the US.

As for Russian Mafia being in Pattaya at the same time, well that isn't a coincidence, Pattaya probably has a higher concentration of Russian Mafia than any Russian city as it has become the operation center of a lot of the Russian Mafia.

If she was such a high connected operator I doubt that she would have been caught up with the so called "sex guru" group that was working a very retail con, selling sex by offering courses on sexual techniques.

orangecrush

(19,391 posts)
8. She was helping Alexei Navalny
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 08:47 AM
Mar 2018

the opposition leader thrown in jail by Putin.

She may have the information that would take down thw Trump cartel.

I don't care how she makes a living.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
19. She want helping Navalny she was a party girl on Depriska's yacht
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 09:20 AM
Mar 2018

The issue is not that she is a sex worker but her claim that she is the ONLY link between Trump and Depriska. If she was in the inside circle of that group, as she claims, no one believes that she would be working as part of this guru group too.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
42. That she wasn't helping Navalny? That she was on a yacht with Deripaska? These are known facts
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:08 PM
Mar 2018


http://time.com/5179973/belarusian-woman-trump-russia/

Vashukevich shot to fame in early February when Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny, one of President Vladimir Putin’s top foes, published an investigation drawing on Vashukevich’s social media posts suggesting corrupt links between billionaire Oleg Deripaska and a top Kremlin official, Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Prikhodko. The report featured video from Deripaska’s yacht in 2016, when Vashukevich claims she was having an affair with him.

Russians have focused on the ties between Deripaska and Prikhodko. But now Vashukevich says — so far without proof — that she can link the Kremlin to Trump and his former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, who worked for Deripaska a decade before Trump hired him. Manafort has been indicted on money-laundering charges in special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election but Mueller has offered no evidence so far in his investigation that Manafort helped Russia in the U.S. election.

Vashukevich’s links to Deripaska do offer a glimpse into some of the shady associations that surround many Russian oligarchs.

Even Navalny told the AP on Wednesday that he has “certain doubts” that Vashukevich has any evidence about alleged direct ties between Russia and the Trump campaign



Assertions that she was working with Navalny are absurd, we have Navalny's tape in Russian where he exposes her and he posts the original video of her on the yacht.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5446907/Belarusian-sex-worker-alleges-Trump-Russia-tie-without-proof.html

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
43. She wasn't helping Navalny. Navalny doesn't believe her claims
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:11 PM
Mar 2018

Video of Navalny exposing her connection with Russians elite here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5446907/Belarusian-sex-worker-alleges-Trump-Russia-tie-without-proof.html



http://time.com/5179973/belarusian-woman-trump-russia/

Even Navalny told the AP on Wednesday that he has “certain doubts” that Vashukevich has any evidence about alleged direct ties between Russia and the Trump campaign.

orangecrush

(19,391 posts)
12. From the link...
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 08:57 AM
Mar 2018

"If the US is going to step in, they'll have to do it soon. Another post from Rybka's account claimed that she was sick in her cell without access to a doctor and in worse conditions than before as retribution for cooperating with Navalny."

orangecrush

(19,391 posts)
16. She sent a letter
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 09:05 AM
Mar 2018

to the U.S Embassy.

Not sure who could do anything, perhaps Mueller and FBI could if they believe she has info they want.

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
34. If she's deported to Russia she's definitely toast.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 10:35 AM
Mar 2018

Maybe a bribe from someone in the U.S. (like Larry Flynt) would get her out.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
49. Good catch. If she can prove that the passport was fake and that she is a Belarus national as she
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:24 PM
Mar 2018

claims they will deport her back to Belarus.

The country where she is being deported to also has to agree to receive the person being deported.

If the passport turns out to be fraudulent then the airlines can be fined for boarding someone with false documents.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
53. I don't think it was fraudulent. She might have been born in Belorus but that doesn't mean she
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:56 PM
Mar 2018

wasn't a Russian national.

orangecrush

(19,391 posts)
50. Thank you!
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:44 PM
Mar 2018

it is a fascinating story.

I understand your taking the counterintel viewpoint.

She could well be a double.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
28. Then hang onto it.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 09:35 AM
Mar 2018

She is shady as hell and nothing but trouble. Let them work it out. I’m sure Russian spies often find themselves in Thia prisons with access to social media. This doesn’t even pass the first stage as being credible.

orangecrush

(19,391 posts)
29. So the only difference between her and Melania
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 09:37 AM
Mar 2018

is she assisted Putin's opposition.

Whereas Melania married it.


Maybe Trump can give her an "Einstein Visa"


.

orangecrush

(19,391 posts)
31. Someone read my mind!!!
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 09:53 AM
Mar 2018

"Could a Russian Call Girl Be the Straw That Breaks This Joe Camel-Colored President’s Back?"

"Navalny used Rybka’s memoir Who Wants to Seduce a Billionaire?, her social media postings and geolocation techniques to show that she spent time in August 2016 on Deripaska’s yacht off the coast of Norway. She had claimed in her book that the cruise was off the coast of Greenland.

Photos on her Instagram account, @natya_rybka.ru, showed her on the navy blue, teak-decked Elden with Deripaska. They also showed Deripaska there with Sergei Prikhodko, who’s described on the Russian government’s website as deputy prime minister of the Russian Federation."

"Also, instead of asking for help, she’s offering to sell her story to whoever can get her out of prison. If it weren’t for this divisive administration and this backward-ass president, I would chalk up Rybka’s missive as the desperate pleas of a Russian thot, but I hate this administration so much, I am tempted to start a GoFundMe account in her honor. Oh, and then there is this:

“If we go back to Russia we will die in Russian’s prison or they will kill us,” she wrote Tuesday on her Instagram account. “Please USA help us not to die from Russians!”



" I’m ready to hear what else she’s got to say, and even if it’s a lie, it’s an exciting lie, not like the ones this third-grade administration tells."


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theroot.com/could-a-russian-call-girl-be-the-straw-that-breaks-this-1823391045/amp

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
32. Lots of it going on.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 10:00 AM
Mar 2018

“but I hate this administration so much, I am tempted to start a GoFundMe account in her honor.“

Then the egg starts being applied as the story builds. There is a better chance she is part of an under age sex smuggling business than her being “the only one” who can make the connection to Trump. But the poor little lady needs out of jail.

orangecrush

(19,391 posts)
39. She might be a rattlesnake
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:22 PM
Mar 2018

but these are exactly the kind of people that often have interesting information.

I didn't see anything at all about "underage" anywhhere in the reporting.

orangecrush

(19,391 posts)
38. I do confess
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:19 PM
Mar 2018

to having an "orangecrush" on her!

(haven't seen the movie yet, but plan to - the actress who played "Red Sparrow" (Jennifer Lawrence) recommended the Spy Museum in D.C., of which I am a member!


MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
40. Apparently, viewers of this film will be
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:35 PM
Mar 2018

exposed to a great deal of Jennifer Lawrence, who is apparently exposed a great deal in the film.

My wife is not eager to see it. I, on the other hand, wouldn't mind seeing it at all.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
41. By the way, you might be interested in visiting the NSA museum at
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:37 PM
Mar 2018

Fort Meade. It's worth a visit, to be sure. It didn't exist when I was working in the building, but I visited it a few years ago.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
52. While in the USAF, I worked inside the NSA building in 1968-9.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:51 PM
Mar 2018

It was interesting, to say the very least.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
55. It's a good look at the NSA of that time, for sure.
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:01 PM
Mar 2018

Mostly accurate, but limited in what it could actually reveal. An interesting read, though.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
56. Talk about the full spectrum of the bizarre
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:02 PM
Mar 2018

Who knows if what this woman claims is true? I tend to doubt it, but with Trump and Russia what we know already is pretty bizarre.

Orange Free State

(611 posts)
60. So the Thai authorities deny
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:25 PM
Mar 2018

medical care to those in prison but allow them to have complete communication with the outside world, not to mention a cell phone charger? Sorry folks, this whole story does not pass the sniff test. Perhaps it’s an attempt to discredit the Mueller investigation by getting him to subpoena her.
She says she has info that could be damaging to Trump, but asks the US government to spring her out? If true, it would be in Trump’s interest for her to stay where she is, or die.

This is an attempt to feed fake info for sure, and I just ain’t buying it.

orangecrush

(19,391 posts)
61. My understanding
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 03:00 PM
Mar 2018

is that the cell phones belonged to others and were relayed out by those folks, whoever they were.

I also understand that Thailand is now under rule of a dictator who overthrew a democratically elected government by coup.

"On April 7-8, Dmitry Medvedev became the first Russian prime minister to visit Thailand in 25 years. The Russian leader’s visit to Bangkok was excessively publicized both to the benefit of Russia in expanding its presence in Southeast Asia, and to that of the military government of Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocho who took advantage of Medvedev’s high profile visit to legitimize his regime.

While in Thailand, Medvedev signed a number of bilateral agreements with his Thai counterpart, for example, to combat drug trafficking, boost investment and develop Thai energy sector. The two countries were ambitious in their goal to double annual bilateral trade next year to $10 billion.


As reported by the Russian media, around 0.9 percent of ASEAN exports are services to Russia and 2.8 percent of Russian exports are services to ASEAN. Thailand is the leading ASEAN nation trading with Russia at $2.3 billion, leaving far behind Vietnam with $609 million and Singapore at $364 million. Thailand hopes Russia will buy its over-produced rubber. On top of this, it expects to attract more Russian tourists. In 2014, Thailand drew 1.6 million Russian tourists. But so far, the total number is down 8.6 percent this year.

What is more important than the strengthening of diplomatic ties between Thailand and Russia is the fact that Medvedev’s trip to Bangkok came at the time when the Prayuth regime has been heavily criticized by certain Western governments and international organizations. They have condemned the Prayuth government for replacing martial law with sweeping security powers for the military, as an obstacle to the protection of the people’s rights."

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2015/04/22/commentary/world-commentary/thailand-plays-russia-card/#.WprxtoFOk0M

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