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IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:21 AM Mar 2018

5 Insanely Important Jobs (We're Running Out Of People For)

http://www.cracked.com/article_25132_5-insanely-important-jobs-were-running-out-people-for.html

Supply and demand should ensure that we never run out of people to do the really key jobs. If there was a dire shortage of, say, potato chip flavor developers (don't panic, this is strictly theoretical), chip companies would make the salary and perks of the job more attractive, colleges would hype up the benefits of majoring in flavor science, and new blood would enter the field, bringing with them the caramel-and-Worcestershire-sauce-flavored Pringles we truly deserve. But reality is nowhere near that efficient, and we are running out of people for some especially vital jobs. For example ...

Old Programmers Are Dying Off ... And Taking Their Computer Languages With Them

The Demand For Oncologists Skyrockets While Supply Plummets

We're Short On Farm Labor

Nobody Wants To Be A Skilled Manufacturer Anymore

We Don't Have Nearly Enough Pilots To Meet Our Demand For Air Travel


Some of these problems are being made worse by Trump/GOP. It would be great to have rail as an alternative to air travel. It would be great to have training and apprenticeship programs for skilled manufacturing like those job stealers in Europe have. And maybe less demonization of such work. Many farm workers are getting Trumped out of the country, so farms look towards machine harvesting and grow less labor intensive crops.

One of COBOL's main designers was a woman. And stupid people still promote the lie that women/girls don't want to code and try to discourage them. There are probably some who might want to try it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_E._Sammet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper
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5 Insanely Important Jobs (We're Running Out Of People For) (Original Post) IronLionZion Mar 2018 OP
Remember Capitalism: A Love story? Pilots earning less than $20k a year OhNo-Really Mar 2018 #1
Hmmmmmm... ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #2
The article refers to cobol and fortran honest.abe Mar 2018 #7
Management versus front end design, I know ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #14
I know both . . . Ms. Toad Mar 2018 #15
Depends on the language and company IronLionZion Mar 2018 #10
Plumbers? world wide wally Mar 2018 #3
Every little town everywhere needs plumbers, electricians, and other skilled trades IronLionZion Mar 2018 #11
No surprise. When unemployment is this low, labor shortages John Fante Mar 2018 #4
Money wasted on subsidizing coal mines IronLionZion Mar 2018 #12
From a headhunter's perspective Bayard Mar 2018 #5
Cobol is mostly maintenance of old applications running on mainframes FarCenter Mar 2018 #8
"Demand For Oncologists Skyrockets" will be putting it mildly.. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #6
Repealing/blocking safety regulations exposes many more people to carcinogens IronLionZion Mar 2018 #13
hello? rownesheck Mar 2018 #9

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
1. Remember Capitalism: A Love story? Pilots earning less than $20k a year
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:28 AM
Mar 2018

and Sully the Hero landed plane on the Hudson River? He testified before Congress that

His retirement fund didn't exist anymore

His salary was reduced by 40%

unfettered greed destroyed America

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
2. Hmmmmmm...
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 01:34 AM
Mar 2018

So maybe I should invest more time in learning Javascript.

I'm glad you posted this because my tendency is to believe there are plenty of programmers out there.

honest.abe

(8,614 posts)
7. The article refers to cobol and fortran
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 07:34 AM
Mar 2018

I suspect there are plenty of programmers young and old that know javascript.

Its funny javascript was a second class programming language back in the early days of the web.. now its become one of the main components of most online software systems.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
14. Management versus front end design, I know
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:39 PM
Mar 2018

I kind of made my choice to stick with front end, but maybe it would be advantageous to be well rounded instead of just super good at Javascript. The computer science programs in the schools lean toward producing a well rounded graduate, which is why the other students in the class I was taking were into Python and C++. I just wanted to dabble.

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
15. I know both . . .
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 03:19 PM
Mar 2018

So, for my third career (during retirement) - maybe I'll pick up some programming gigs.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
10. Depends on the language and company
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:07 PM
Mar 2018

The lack of COBOL programmers was an issue when I was in college 15 years ago. Many schools still taught that language to Management Information Systems majors because of its prevalence in the financial industry and many older companies. It's not as sexy as Java, Python, C++, and others.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
4. No surprise. When unemployment is this low, labor shortages
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:03 AM
Mar 2018

follow. That's why I found the "won't someone please think of the poor working class whites" talk in 2016 so silly. You would think they were in living in the dust bowl the way everyone were carrying on.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
12. Money wasted on subsidizing coal mines
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:10 PM
Mar 2018

is better spent retraining miners for other hands on skilled trades if they're willing to do it.

Bayard

(22,005 posts)
5. From a headhunter's perspective
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 02:17 AM
Mar 2018

I don't recruit I.T. people anymore, but I can tell you that in the last 20 years, companies have been loathe to hire old programmers, except as contractors. They want the college kids with the newest whiz bang technologies.

As far as farm labor, ICE is rounding them all up.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
8. Cobol is mostly maintenance of old applications running on mainframes
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 08:42 AM
Mar 2018

So you need to know the whole IBM mainframe software stack, not just Cobol language.

It's been awhile, but the strategy seemed to be to send this work to India, where outsourcing companies were training mainframe programmers.

By outsourcing the maintenance of these systems, it was easier to replace and shut them down because you didn't have US employees to fire. Instead, you hired new staff with training in the new technology to build the replacement applications.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
6. "Demand For Oncologists Skyrockets" will be putting it mildly..
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 04:33 AM
Mar 2018

Many tRump administration policies and executive actions will worsen cancer rates in this country.

Promoting coal and weakening the EPA, weakening of worker health and safety regs, poor support for education in general, refusing to hold corporations accountable for anything....this list goes on and on.

All those massive tax breaks for corporations and the wealthy? IMO, rates should have increased instead, and much of the new revenue put into education.

..........

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
13. Repealing/blocking safety regulations exposes many more people to carcinogens
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 12:12 PM
Mar 2018

so Trump is creating jobs for oncologists

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
9. hello?
Sat Mar 3, 2018, 08:48 AM
Mar 2018

All you have to do is take that cool new superpill that all the top performers take. It was being advertised in all those "no way is this a fake ass ad" ads that pop up on just about every website now! No training needed for anything! We got this!

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